The Lisbon Treaty Referendum Mk II
Polling in the second Lisbon Referendum has ended after 15 hours.
Early indications suggest that turnout may be slightly up on the first Lisbon vote and Fine Gael has claimed an exit poll shows there has been strong support for the treaty.
The Lisbon Treaty Referendum (re-run)
In December 2008 the Irish government agreed to hold a second referendum by November 2009 and in return the EU provided a set of "legal guarantees" aimed at addressing the various concerns raised by campaigners during the 2008 campaign. The EU has promised not to impose rules on Ireland concerning taxation, "family" issues - such as abortion, euthanasia and gay marriage - and the traditional Irish state neutrality. Under Lisbon "every member state will have a commissioner" - a major concession to Ireland. The original plan was to have fewer commissioners than member states, from 2014 onwards.The Irish "protocol" will be bolted onto some future EU accession treaty - most likely the one for Croatia when it joins the European Union.
According to the Irish Government:
Ireland, and all other Member States, will keep a Commissioner.Ireland will remain in control of its own tax rates.Irish neutrality will not be affected ... no conscription, no defence alliances.Ireland retains control of sensitive ethical issues such as abortion.Workers' rights and public services are valued and protected in Ireland and across the EU.
In 2008 the "No" side ran a much better campaign than the "Yes" supporters and their posters were much more interesting and to be fair they did highlight some important issues.
This year the "No" side got off to a better start, mainly because they were the first to put their posters on display but as they have depended on irrelevant or totally false slogans they have failed the get the same sort of public support that they had last year but it is possible that things could change by October 2.
The "No" side also appears to have attracted some strange and unusual supporters who are not really helping the cause. For example, Jim Corr (of the Corrs) distributed the following letter to the media here in Ireland:
Written by Jim Corr Saturday, 19 September 2009 20:13Now is the time, for all good men and women, to come to the aid of their Country!
Within the next few weeks, we have coming, the most important vote of our lives. I will outline my main concerns in relation to this 2nd referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
Guarantees: Not worth the paper they're written on. Denmark's stronger protocol promises after their Maastrict no vote have since been over ruled and nullified by the European Court of Justice!
Article 48: The self amending clause or escalator clause. Allows the EU to escalate it's power into new areas WITHOUT coming back to the people for a vote on any changes. So what we have in fact is a treaty that is not set in stone like our own constitution. It is a flexible treaty free to be amended by the EU elite as they wish. This leaves our country and the other individual member states extremely vulnerable! Would you sign a contract on a deal with someone who could legally adjust that contract to favour themselves AFTER you'd signed it ?
Article 2 ECFR: Under Lisbon, The European Charter of Fundamental Rights AND the European Charter of Human Rights become legally binding. Both of those charters are intertwined and will merge.Article 2 ECFR "Nobody shall be condemned to death, everybody has a right to life" Article 2 protocol 6 of the ECHR which will merge with the ECFR, "A state may make provision for the death penalty in times of war or imminent threat of war". There you have a 'backdoor' whereby the main article can be diluted or negated entirely and this is typical of the deception we will find upon study of the treaty and it's additional charters. Who's to say we are under threat of war, could we trust Tony B'liar who led his nation into war under false pretences and who is in the running to be SELECTED, not elected, as the president of the EU ?
As was stated by our own Charlie McCreevy: 95% of Europeans would vote no to this treaty if given the chance. We the people of this country are their voice, and we owe it to them to make the right decision on Oct. 2nd.
Hasn't the EU been good for Ireland ? We gave the EU 200 Billion worth of our fishing stock. The fishing industry has been decimated as a result. Now our farming industry is under attack, where our farmers are being forced because of EU law to sell milk cheaper than cost, while at the same time becoming ever increasingly crippled under EU bureaucracy. With this pattern in mind would you trust the EU with the Irish economy and our Government ?
I'm all for co-operation with our European neighbours, I just don't want them telling us what to do. I am for co-operation, not domination!
Creeping EU Tip-Toe Totalitarianism: Have you noticed how with each successive EU treaty it has gradually moved from economic integration into political integration ? Watch how civil liberties globally are being incrementally eroded due to this fraudulent 'War of Terror" and now via Phoney Environmentalism. Visit my web-site for more on this. Is it democracy to keep coming back to the people with the same treaty that we've already voted on ? Is it democracy not to allow the individual member states a referendum on something so crucially important to their futures and the futures of their children's children ? Was it democracy for most individual member states to ratify the treaty against the wishes of the vast majority of their own people even though it was ILLEGAL for them to do so due to We the People of Ireland having already voted this treaty down ?
Where is this progressing towards ? The agenda is World Government, for the many of us that are awake to see, which is clearly outlined in the books written by the elite and their insiders, books they don't count on the general population reading. World Government would not be a bad thing if Angels were going to run it, but the people striving for this are anything but. We are NOT ready for World Government yet, not by a long shot. Again more on this on my web-site.
What this is simply about is POWER going into yet fewer and fewer hands, and those that forget history are doomed to repeat it, because Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely!
This progression MUST be stopped dead in it's tracks, and we can help scupper this agenda by voting NO on the 2nd of October.
There is no question of Ireland being sidelined or pushed out of the EU or the euro-currency if we stand by our No to Lisbon. As Ireland’s EU Commissioner Charlie mccreevy said last December : “There is no provision in the existing treaties to isolate anybody. There is no provision to throw out anybody, unless unanimously all the existing members of the club agreed to throw you out. And I doubt, now or in the future, any Irish Government is going to unanimously agree to throw them selves out.”
Let's be on the right side of history...
God bless you all,