Major Nidal Malik Hasan A National Hero.

by djermano | November 13, 2009 at 04:23 am
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The International Institute of Nonviolence.


By: The Rev.


 


Major Nidal Malik Hasan is being charged with Premeditated Murder in the killing of 13 US soldiers at Fort Hood in Texas. Yet really he is a National Hero. Think of what he did...in standing up to the mighty United States Military where Fort Hood houses over 50,000 troops, he came to realize his duty in opposing the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.


He is a Muslim, and to think the US military is deploying Muslims to go out and kill fellow Muslims is more than irony and anxiety, but absolutely mean spirited...if not the Army's roll in planning and excuting hate crimes...for the sake of the lie that started these wars.


Oh so you say he killed 13 innocent US soldiers. Hold on, not so innocent...they were there in Fort Hood for a reason, and that was to go to Iraq or Afghanistan to kill Muslims...Shitties, Sunnis, Taliban, Alqaeda...or whoever appeared like one at the moment. 


The word is they were planning to deploy him to Afghanistan...Some say to Iraq...but it doesn't matter really...they are both wars that Muslims should not be fighting against each other.


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/fort-hood-shooter-maj-nidal-malik-hasan-calm/Story?id=9012995&page=3...


http://timelines.com/2009/11/9/major-nidal-malik-hasan-suspect-in-fort-hood-shootings-conscious-and-able-to-talk


http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/iraq/?id=35563...


Consider the fact that no one questioned GW Bush when he ordered the lie to go to war..when they did not complete the investigations into who actually did 911... Think maybe there is something wrong with the system, when a President can just order people to go out and kill people, without real evidence to the cause?


BinLadin is not even on the FBI's most wanted list in connection to 911...and yet we have this War going on in Afghanistan.. People have real short memories when US forces killed over a million innocent people in Iraq.. .much more than the said atrocites committed by Saddam.. And yet we have bungling fools who are willing to join the US military in support of the troops..because you are protecting some sort of code of honor to your country is really insane....when you have no idea what you are protecting. .


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm......


You guys in uniform are protecting a lie...protecting your pals when you see them go through with the orders to kill....the killing of innocent people.. Or the soldiers who rape Iraqi girls, and kills their family, or soldiers getting away with the crimes they commited in Iraq from all the torture...and no one says a thing about those crimes.


Yet you are ready to jump on Maj Hasan..who see's the corrupt system, who knows the War in Iraq and Afghanistan was a lie, and has seen the casualties coming on a daily basis... And he is enslaved  like most Americans to General McKissmyasstal....who wants to kill more and more people.


Maj Hasan has more courage than the President of the United States...who said in his campaigns he was going to end the wars..but now that he is in the limelight he hesitates to bring the troops home..and plays footsy with the Generals prolonging the lies created by Bush and Dick Chainknees..


The Major is more of a hero than the reporter.. journalist Muntadar al-Zaidi... who threw a pair of shoes at President Bush.. Bush said he thought that was unusual, I wonder if he thinks shooting is not unusual?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7782422.stm...


To this day there are many unanswered closed down investigations to what happened on 911. I dare say Maj Hasan knows 911 was not done by Muslim's.....and the only reason Muslims fight back is because the US is lying about them being terrorists....so what the hell are they suppose to do? Let you f'ers kill them? No they are driven to protect themselves and preserve the dignity of their life... Maj Hasan was driven to stand up against you military wacknuts..


Anyone who will kill innocent civilian people because the President of the United States said to go to war....are nutjobs...because you can't think for yourself....You can't take the position that hey...this President is wrong....because things do not add up.


You soldiers in the US....have no common sense or what? The US went into Afghanistan nearly 2 months after 911 happened. They were still picking bodies out of the rubble then..And they knew it was BinLadin? Get real. And they didn't do much when they got there, except gun down one of their own Pat Tillman an NFL player. So then what? Go and invade Iraq...when Iraq had nothing to do with 911... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6488664/Gen-Stanley-McChrystal-faces-Pat-Tillman-book-allegations.html


People have no common sense except to run like wild dogs supporting the pack of wolf lies...and thinking you are patriots? You are the exact opposite in my opinion.


Given that you won't listen to the real story...and go on your merry indignant way...I want to make sure you understand that I know it was you guys who allowed this to happened....not Maj Hasan... He is and should be noted as a National Hero....for standing up to your indecency and ignorance.


The Rev.

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Mritunjay

He is a Muslim, and to think the US military is deploying Muslims to go out and kill fellow Muslims is more than irony and anxiety, but absolutely mean spirited...if not the Army's roll in planning and excuting hate crimes...for the sake of the lie that started these wars.

I always fail to see the reason why religion should interfere with one's obligation to his nation. Whether of not US lied to world while attacking Afghanistan is a debate in itself as controversial as lunar landing.

My humble submission in this matter is only the fact that religious fanaticism can never be justified in light of any fact/fiction/opinion....

Hasan and his likes need mental care.

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israeli.agent

Indirect meaning is  , it is ok to  sending Muslims to kill "Kaffirs" alone - yes?

 

.Agent.

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djermano

Religion has a lot to do with ones nation.. When one is religious we are kind hearted to one another..but when you go on believing a nation comes before God...it is like believing nations create God...instead of the other way around... I think you need mental care...because you think the landing on the moon is a fraud....The difference pal is people didn't die on the landing..but thousands are in Afghanistan.. You are part of the cloud of despair that keeps War as a prerequisite in the human affair of life...There you are totally wrong.

The Rev.

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Rory Cripps

REV: JEEZ! Thanks for this story! You really out did yourself on this one! You've got a point here in that what occurred at Fort Hood was an act of war on the part of a religious and ideological fanatic. The major is an American in name only and a Muslim first. And there's no doubt that he is true to his God, Allah, before all else--including the country of his birth.

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Barry ORegan

If you look at the big picture is Humans killing humans.

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djermano

Right Barry....which should not be done.

The Rev.

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Mritunjay

Then how he became NATIONAL hero!! :)

Maybe he is the religious hero!

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Sputnic

Though shalt not kill, revealed to Moses (Musa in Islam) ! We all believe in that one, Jewish, Christian and Muslim. The American state is making a lot of money out of this war, God should always come first, murder is wrong but the man cracked and Obama should get the troops out

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Amy Judd

Major Hassan is an American - he was born in Virginia - so whose national hero is he? You can only be a national hero to the country of your birth, I highly doubt any Americans would call him a hero

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Sudha Krishna

I am loath to leave a comment on such a post because the author uses cheap trick rhetoric to defend the indefensible and the arguments put forward in the post are simply provocative rather than perceptive.

Unfortunately, free speech advocates are ften put in the position of defending the most hideous stuff.

And Ms. Kells is correct the post is dangerously close to hate speech so I would like to explore that term

Professor Jeremy Waldron of the NYU Law Schools says

The publications we call hate speech are often intended to do two things: (1) to defame and attack the dignity, honour and social standing of minorities and their members; and (2) to undermine the assurance that any good society is trying to give to its most vulnerable citizens that they and their families can go about their lives with some basic security against humiliation, discrimination and violence.

Robert Post, Dean and Sol & Lillian Goldman Professor of Law, The Yale Law School says

One question is who is authorized to define such [hate] speech? Countries with strong, coherent elites, like Iran or Saudi Arabia, unilaterally define uncivil speech in terms of the ideology of these elites.... In societies like the United States, in which such elites are weak or fractured, authority to define uncivil speech is correspondingly reduced.



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J2B

he's only a hero to the devil, and since he was also a doctor, didn't he take some kind of oath to protect life, and not take it? If he was being sent to Iraq or Afghanistan, a doctor wouldn't be placed in a combat role, would they? He's also an American, through and through just as you are too! You also claim to be a man of peace but your words incite hatred, even if you disagree with wars. Troopers don't make wars, politicians do! If he didn't want to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, he had many options to take other than killing people who trusted him as an officer. I think he brings shame to his own religion.

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djermano

All hero's are hero's to the devil J2B.... I do seek peace and is why I am anti-military..so what does one do, to stop war? Troopers do make Wars J2B because they make themselves available for politicians to order them around.. Clearly he did not want to be deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq... He could have simply refused the orders, and let them dishonorably discharge him.. So what could he do? It is the American media who makes hero's out of people who use violence.... I am merely following their script so to speak in that he used force to try and stop the War.. May I say....if Major Hasan is not the Hero...then GW Bush is instead; right?  Or maybe it is President Obama....because he continues to peddle Bush'es same lie.

You people might want to jump all over me about hate speech...but you don't consider that the President Of The United States is really the one who speaks hate...when he invades another country.....and simply puts bags over peoples heads and tortures them.

Given who you think is the most reliable body counter is...they say over 1 million innocent people have been killed because of Bush... And you are all jumping and yelling at me? It wasn't I who said let's go to War, or I am the War President.

Now if the military guys can get away with those crimes to innocent people, and the US government does nothing about it....just what do you think is going to happen? You think Muslims are going to forget and let it go? 

The problem in the US is we have capital crimes come about because of other Capital Crimes committed...it is the snowball rolling into an avalanche syndrome..

I think no one is a hero...when they kill innocent people.....and innocent people are not those in uniform planning to do killing in the future... There should be a law about that....because the Military is nothing but pre-meditated murder..in being prepared to take someone elses life.

You say he brings shame to his religion...But he is not a Christian.. Christians believe in Jesus Christ.. Jesus Christ gave his life on the cross....he did not support militaries nor was a soldier...Yet America a so called Christian Nation has committed more death and killing than all the countries combined in the world. How is it America is a Christian Nation...when so many innocent have fallen? Let's remember the Veterans...but let's forget the Civilians right? 

Something is radically wrong with nations who believe Militaries are justifiable tools and acts of security.. It is quite the opposite.

America in my opinion is more than a flaw, it is an order that contains no logic...but carries its weight of opinion on the whims of so called political popularity.... right or wrong,,, America is always right according to Americans...

The Rev.

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snuffysmith

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/

Why wasn't Hasan charged with terrorism?
TRMS: Jonathan Turley (10:39)
November 12, 2009

Why wasn't Hasan charged with terrorism?
Nov. 12: Accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan was formally charged today with 13 counts of murder but not terrorism. Rachel Maddow is joined by George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley to explain why.

Transcript link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32390646/ns/ms...about_msnbc_tv/

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snuffysmith


It Isn't Political Correctness, It's Shariah
Pamela Geller
Shariah law forbids criticism of Islam. And here we are. More

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/it_...orrectness.html

"We are witnessing an Islamized America. This is well beyond political correctness. We are enforcing Shariah law. We will not insult Islam. That is Shariah law. We self censor. That is Shariah law. We disrespect ourselves, our nation, so that we might respect Islam. This is dhimmitude. We should be raging. We should be outraged. We should be strategizing for this worldwide conflict. We should be debating about which leader will best handle Islam's war on the West. And yet we have not one leader who begins to understand the conflict -- that's how feared the subject matter is. Not one leader."

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snuffysmith

In a statement titled, "The Attack In Texas Is A Proof On The Disagreement Among American Soldiers Over The War", the Taliban celebrated the "fight and trance and enormous fears within the military and civil circles in America" caused by the incident. The Taliban noted, "the hero of the attack is the Muslim psychiatrist in the rank of Major in the American Army, from Palestinian origin... Some of the Western organizations and media sources say—regarding the factors that made the American soldier Nidal Hasan carry this attack—it might be caused by psychological illness and stress, which spread amongst the soldiers in the battlefields in Afghanistan and Iraq... But, other specialists, next to these factors, diagnosed another special factor; that the oppression and the monstrosity and prisoner torture and air raids and general killing, carried out by the American army in Iraq and Afghanistan, have led to a situation of widespread dissonance and exhaustion between the American soldiers, and the American military bases. Maybe this incident was a reaction to these injustices, and disowning them." The Taliban statement further warned that if the U.S. fails to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan "it will become normal for incidents and attacks similar to Texas’ to expand to the Pentagon and the rest of the American military bases, and it is inevitable that those with a spark of self-awareness to react with fundamentalist rebellion."

A complete English translation of the Taliban statement can be accessed on the NEFA Foundation website.
http://counterterrorismblog.org/2009/11/af...brate_massa.php

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snuffysmith

Oklahoma City, Columbine, Virginia Tech and Now Ft. Hood

by Shepherd Bliss / November 12th, 2009 (0)

Oklahoma City (1995–168 killed), Columbine High (1999–12 killed), Virginia Tech University (2007–32 killed), and now Ft. Hood (13 killed). What do these memorable places have in common?

They are each sites where Americans killed Americans in a culture whose violence extends from here to places like Iraq and Afghanistan. They are symptoms of a deep problem not likely to disappear without serious intervention.

Connections exist among the violence here at home and American violence in wars abroad, which indicate a pattern. These incidents are among growing signs that we should analyze carefully, now, before additional warnings happen and perhaps even worsen. The …
(Full article …)
http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/oklahoma...nd-now-ft-hood/

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djermano

I would add 911 to your list..because no hard evidence proves Muslim terrorists did this act.. There are many unanswered questions to 911...and the Bush republican arm forcefully shut down investigations...becasue mounting evidence proved they were behind it..

The Rev.

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snuffysmith


Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan called himself a "soldier of Allah" on business cards found in his apartment after the shooting rampage
at Fort Hood in which he is accused of murdering 13 people.

Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, reportedly obtained the business cards over the Internet. In addition to listing his profession
and contact information, the cards contain a discrete reference to his religion: "SoA(SWT)."

Watchdogs say the first letters are shorthand among militant Muslims to "soldier of Allah." The last letters refer

to "Subhanahu Wa Ta'all," which means "glory to God."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,574546,00.html

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djermano

Thanks for your comments Snuffysmith

The Rev.

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Babel-Fish

I have recommended because I want it to stay at the top of the queue so that others can see a very flawed opinion.

The guy is no hero and lets have some thoughts about the love ones left behind such as these guys mothers fathers wives and friends. I for one would never side with fundamentalism and know the guys killed see soldiering as a job. They also thought they were serving and protecting fellow citizens from US aggressors.  

If you want to blame anyone for wars please point the finger in the correct direction the politicians and the elitist. In this violent world of ours we unfortunately need armies, and to obtain peace non corrupt politicians and leaders.   

 


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Sputnic

But using that argument mr Fish means you cannot blame any "ordinary" soldier. If people want to stop things like this happening they need to demand a removal of the corruption

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Babel-Fish

They do and really need to, but the elitist have the system rigged and the likes of Bush and cronies are always at the top of the political ladder. Not a lot the normal citizen can do, other than write articles on the internet about the damn corruption and those that pull the wool over peoples eyes.

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djermano

Bob...of course the politicians should be held accountable...They are the fear inciters..to get everyman and woman up in arms to fight and protect their homeland... The thing is most new recruits are uneducated, and have no jobs.  really.. But each person should have a head on their shoulders knowing they will be ordered to kill someone. This to me is a criminal act against Human Rights...because a President is taking the will and real identity away from a soldier to project his demented views that we need to kill...in order to survive.

People in the world believe that the Elite have caused this Economic Meltdown to drive the unemployed to the US Military as recruits...so they can kill off the population, and wage more and more wars in the future.

Maj. Hasan acted on his own in this case.....nevertheless it is in direct opposition to being a patsy for a war started by the President that is and always has been based on a lie. Think of all the family and friends mowed down by the Military in Iraq.. That is because US mindset is always about their soldier boys, and no one pays attention to the Civilian Casualties of the people in Iraq or Afghanistan...

Comparing 13 dead US soldiers to 1 million innocent civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan...is the difference between a crumb on the table to the loaves on the shelf.

Any special cermonies for the innocent people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan?  Not one comes to mind....And yet the media and the America Way go to the hilt in honoring servicemen.  Really, there is something wrong with that...

The Rev.

 

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snuffysmith

The Question We've Yet to AskBy Jim Hoagland


The responsibility for Hasan's acts lies solely with himself and no one else. But initially, he was raising the right question. He was asking the national command to look at this war from the point of view of the Muslims who are both its chief protagonists and its chief victims. Until this happens, we will have a hard time figuring out why we are in Afghanistan and how we get out.

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TruthMatters

To "TheRev":  I know we don't want to let facts get in the way of your propaganda rant but,  the truth only took a 3 second Google search. Bin Laden has been on the FBI's 10 most wanted list for years.www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htmIt's  ironic that your organization is called "The International Institute of Nonviolence";  considering the divisive hate mongering nature of your rants.  Let your ignorance be your guide.  Peace.

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djermano

He is not wanted in connection to 911. I shall not let ignorance be my guide, and I hope it shall not be your's as well.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm....

The Rev.

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snuffysmith

The Real Story Of The Terrorist "Mad Doctor Hasan"
When Army Major Nidal Hasan killed U.S. troops on the nation's largest military base, was this evidence of "militant Islam"? Or did this military psychiatrist snap under pressure while treating returning vets on a base averaging ten suicides a month? Is there an undisclosed agenda behind those seeking to portray this act as the work of "Islamo fascists"? Continued

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djermano

Very possible to be a combination of both.

The Rev.

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Tanner

This is a terrible article.

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djermano

Thanks for your comment...

I think the whole situation with the War in Iraq, Afghanistan is terrible. You think it is not terrible when the President pins Medals of Honor on returning servicemen for killing innocent people that no one mentions...because they are hiding behind the campaign to kill terrorists? Ah...I think that is terrible.

The Rev.

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