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One Citizen's Opinion
by
Lee Dunkelberg
Note to all you Obamadilloes out there: “Get over it [expletive deleted]!” is not a welcoming, conciliatory tone.
When John Edwards quit the race, I declared myself neutral. Neither of the two remaining candidates offered enough pizazz to me to take sides. However, I committed myself to fully support the nominee of the Democratic Party. When I did that, I got snarky remarks from both Obama and Clinton supporters.
Thus, I knew whichever side that won was going to sorry winners and whichever side that lost was going to be sore losers. I was right. Right now, the McCain/Bush campaign is opening its web to attract as many Clinton supporters as it can as they flee from Obama. Obama may be talking unity, but much of his flock is talking penance.
Now, it seems like many Obama supporters are taking up after the post-war Democratic Party, and I mean post Civil War congress. They want to impose a form of Reconstruction. In order for those who did not support them to join the Obamadillo ranks, penance must first be done. You are welcome to help us, as long as you are appropriately humble, appropriately servile and completely and abjectly apologetic.
How many times did I hear knothead Obama supporters say they would vote for McCain/Bush, Nader, whoever the Libertarian guy is or just stay home if Clinton won the nomination? Well, guess what, there are Clinton people just as passionate and just as loyal. Many of them embrace the same knothead thinking as you do.
If you are a Hillary supporter and you wish for four more years of Boy George Bush, fine! Go ahead and vote for higher gas prices, more “pro-life” judges who embrace death penalties, more troops for Iraq, less benefits for those troops, unending and unfocused war, a failing economy, a dipping dollar, playground bully diplomacy and more tax breaks for the wealthy, from which you not only will not benefit but will be forced to finance.
Finally, Obamadilloes, as passionate as you are for your man, if the situation was reversed, would you want him to throw in the towel? Would you want him to keep fighting? Would you be bitter about those who defeated you? Unless you are a liar, the answer to at least one of those questions is “yes”. So, maybe it’s time a little of this compassion we keep hearing about from the mountain tops trickle down to the grass roots?
Why are you throwing aside everything you say your candidate stands for in order to make a few, very cheap and cheesey “gotchas”?
As for the Clinton supporters, rest and relax. Count to about one million and ten. Then, please, try to remember who the common enemy is and join ranks against McCain/Bush. It may hurt at first, but it will worth it in the long run (and, if anyone is snarky to you, let me know).
For more of my rantings, click here.
Thanks!
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Karen Hatter
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States





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at 12:37 on June 6th, 2008
Lack of cohesiveness has always been the Dems' biggest enemy... that, and our inability to show up on election day!
at 12:56 on June 6th, 2008
You've got that right.
THe knotheads who want to "Recreate 68" at the Dem Convention seem to
have forgotten who won that election....We could be looking at "Let's
redo '72!"
Cheers!
at 12:51 on June 6th, 2008
dunkelberg, I like this story. It's good stuff.
at 12:58 on June 6th, 2008
Muchas merci, ma'am!
at 13:15 on June 6th, 2008
hey, there is another choice: "NONE of the Above".
at 13:38 on June 6th, 2008
That would be a good move. If NOTA got, say 30%, of the vote, you'd have a do over.
at 13:32 on June 6th, 2008
dunkelberg, we do appreciate your well-done rants around here!
at 13:39 on June 6th, 2008
Gracias beaucoup, ma'am (I'm trying to learn to speak NAFTA)
at 13:36 on June 6th, 2008
dunkelberg, I like this story. It's good stuff.
at 14:33 on June 6th, 2008
Thanks!
Merci.
Gracias.
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yakasat 13:41 on June 6th, 2008
This "none if the above" comment seems to be suggesting past failures as possible new directions. Why would you even say that? The only candidate in my lifetime who can correctly finish a sentence without confusing you is Obama. And that alone is reason enough to have him run the country.
at 14:03 on June 6th, 2008
Do you even exist, yakas,? your profile doesn't show up. and none of the above, means you choose to vote but not for any available candidates. The only way that would force a re-do of the election process is if a majority of voters refused all choices but "None of the above'.
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yakasat 15:25 on June 6th, 2008
Why would you want to redo this election?
Are you not happy with the historical or inspirational aspects of it?
There is a new surge of voices coming forward due to the freeness of the internet and the voice of a leader who can give them a reason to come forward. Young people are the future and don't you dare and try to say our voice is not the most important. We are not bogged down with the cynicism the baby boomers have. We are not starting our lives with a golden spoon feeding us H.F.C.S. We know that change is what is needed and are happy to part with the excess you have lived with and become so dependent upon. Because that excess is not sustainable. I see this as a question asked by 10 year olds. They understand it why can't you. Whether or not Obama can really bring change or not isn't that important to me. What is important is that our voices and concerns have been heard by him and that there is a massive societal shift devoted entirely to removing the waste that your generation has swept under the rug and is now spilling out into the living room. He is the catalyst in a long opposing reaction to the current formula. Wouldn't it be smart to support the guy who has the backing of the most educated? Why would you even consider going for the guy/girl who is backed by older less educated voters. I want the fricken smartest person possible, but IQ isn't the whole bag either, articulation and charisma coupled with a vision and an open ear is a sea change from any politician in my lifetime. You are playing a dangerous game with our future. Play it smart or you social security will be gone.
As I am not so interested in the person Barack Obama, but rather his message, you should not be so interested in my profile or who I am, but instead my message.
at 16:02 on June 6th, 2008
You are playing a dangerous game with our future. Play it smart or you social security will be gone.
As one who probably only will have Social Security to look forward to, I now consider it my job to only outlive my parents to make them happy. So, maybe I can get it up front?
Which probably shows I am bogged down with the cynicism the baby boomers have. It is well-earned cynicism, believe you me. Sixties' idealism quashed by the "new dawn" of free range corporate greed, where if you did not succeed, it was your fault for not being positive enough, where the "trickle down" theory was a canon - not the "voodoo ecconomics" it turned out to be (who would've thought a Bush could get it so right?). I cannot speak for Renè, but I took it she was more throwing out a future option than a redo.
However, remember who the last "outsider" who was going to bring a new spirit and a consensus rule to Washington was? It was Boy George Bush.
I am pleased you have been politically reborn in Obama. I personally hope he wins for no other reason than the alternative is so loathsome (plus thanks to the new PM, I can't relocate to Canada. Who does he think he is, George Bush?).
at 16:07 on June 6th, 2008
dunkelberg, interesting "rantings":)!
at 16:11 on June 6th, 2008
Thanks much!
I have to be careful though. Stewing in your own juices can cause you to turn sour.
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yakasat 16:37 on June 6th, 2008
A good little history in cynicism thanks for that. I didn't really understand where it came from but can see how it was formed. My uncle is a testament to that. He was a pot smoking longhair in the sixties and now is an unhappy millionaire whose unwillingness to even consider the golden rule plausible is tearing a rift in our greater family. The reason for my rantings is based partly and unfairly perhaps on the fact that everytime I come on this website Rene who seems to have a say in everything is making a vaguely put point that i can only assume is against change. Or the consideration that change might be positive. Maybe I am not understanding her but I think she doesn't like the options and is seeing those options in terms as narrow as the persons personality. This is about us all and not the guy who will be the president. Who can bring us together as a generational message of hope better than Obama? I would gladly have voted for Hillary but that message wasn't ressonating nearly as clear.
As far as your point about the last concensus builder, bush. I felt nothing other than 'more of the same' would come of it and what we got was even worse than that.
at 17:07 on June 6th, 2008
Can someone tell me what this "change" is that Mr. Obama is going to bring about.
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yakasat 17:24 on June 6th, 2008
Dependence on foreign energy will be phased out and people might consider a more efficient lifestyle because it will be available in new products and technologies that will have come out of a willingness to see the infrastructure we have now as failing. I am not saying that he will do it either. I am saying he inspires the rest of us to pursue change for the betterment of our nation.
Again the man himself isn't the answer. Its what we do while we have someone who seems willing to listen in the top seat.
I think your stuck on what he is. not what he brings
at 17:57 on June 6th, 2008
Call me crazy, but I think thinking what other people are thinking can get you into unthinkable trouble.
What they say may not be what they think, but, if you listen, the thoughts often rise to the surface without them knowing it.
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djermanoat 18:02 on June 6th, 2008
Mr. dunkelberg, this exercise in writing about candidates who do nothing toward the process in assuring fair and honest elections is really a waste of time isn't it? Does it matter who will be elected, when our votes are not counted, or validated?
What is really mind boggling is that only people in the USA can vote or assume they can vote, while the rest of the worlds population is held out of the process. This is democracy? It's more like junior high wanna be President of the bowling team.
How is it that America decides the financial direction in the world while America only accounts for a small percentage of the population? Is that fair? Why can't people in China vote for the US President? Seems to me it would help them in the so called free world. Why can't Russia or India people vote in the US election?
If America was a free country that advocates freedom in the world it would be pursuing policies that are inclusive to all governments to vote the will of the people. What does democracy have to fear? Hugo Chavez? Not really, in fact he may have more supporters in the US than we can imagine.
I find this whole idea of voting and making us believe we have a choice in an election process is quite a major lie. It's a lie because what choice is there if no candidate meets my expectation? What vote for myself?
Really we are all little potential Presidents in this world, why not stick up for ourselves for a CHANGE.
at 18:21 on June 6th, 2008
First of all, the hearts of people here and all over the world go out to earthquake victims of China. Best of luck in the recovery.
People in China have more power over the U.S. economy than any of us do here.
We have a criminal government that also puts innocent people behind bars with no justice...overstretches its military and uses national security secrecy as a cloak for ineptness.
However, as you have the same, you understand these things.
What I fail to understand is how a government based on capitalism (us) is depending on a bunch of Communists (you) who hold the deed to the ranch (ours) to behave like good capitalists. They say China won't call the notes because it will wreak havoc in its financial system. I say when a government (yours) rules by bullets and bayonets what price glory if it takes down the big bad white/black/brown/yellow/red/sometimes orangish devil? Besides it never is the people in the palace or the White House who pay the price, nor do their friends and family - just the lackeys.
Cheers!
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djermanoat 18:52 on June 6th, 2008
The earthquake has been very terrible. I am trying to start an earthquake big machinery company, to make equipment that speeds up recovery efforts. I call it the Armadillo. This machine has a converyor nose that can rake in debris, break it up and convey it underneath itself and out behind itself. It will have robotic arms that have jaws for lifting debris and another arm that is a torch for cutting rebar, and an arm for vibrating.
Things go slow in building here in China, but with this earthquakes huge devastation, it will take years for recovery. I say at least 10 years. And with the dam problems from the earthquake I think they will not rebuild new ones, to have the same happen! What will come on is Geothermal Development. This will provide the electrical power resource they need, and also from my discovery that geothermal drilling actually reduces earthquake activity, by removing pressure build up inside the earth.
I am looking to find some American investors to start this worldwide company. Now I am working on designs of the equipment. Anyone interested and who can be of support please contact me. I see that you are in the news business, and I wonder if you can help me advertise this? Thanks Lee. djermano@yahoo.com
at 19:06 on June 6th, 2008
dunkelberg, I like this story. It's good stuff.
at 21:30 on June 6th, 2008
dunkelberg, I like this story. It's good stuff. Excellent story
at 06:14 on June 7th, 2008
Thank you, Mr. Howell. Stay warm.
at 22:14 on June 6th, 2008
dunkelberg, I like this story. It's good stuff.
Yes it will be major problem for Obama Fans.
You win or loose election not only due to your supporters but your enemies have major role in it.
at 06:13 on June 7th, 2008
Thanks for the notice.
Yes, one must be careful not to give one 's future to the hands of your enemy.
at 06:55 on June 7th, 2008
Perhaps Obama supporters are playing both sides of the fence in the hopes of getting one of them Plum well paid government positions. So much for conviction over plum appointments and money
at 07:35 on June 7th, 2008
I don't think so. It would appear to me, and I could be wrong, their stirred more by passionate self righteousness. Sen. Clinton, in their opinion, did not play fair, along with a whole line of other complaints. Many are vehement anti-war, one-issue candidates who will never forgive Sen. Clinton for her votes to approve the Iraq War.
At the same time, many of Sen. Clinton's supporters signed on early in the campaign embracing both a return to sanity in the White House and to back putting a woman in her proper place (finally) the seat of power. Many of those will freely admit their hearts are broken and the spirit is gone.
It's much like the problem the Republicans have. Many are considering voting Libertarian rather than holding their noses and voting for Sen. McCain. Sen. McCain does not meet the test of the right-wing dopers, felons and liars of wing nut radio.