Military and CIA, the functioning part of government

by YankeeJim | October 1, 2011 at 03:07 am
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Run silent, run deep

Throw everything but the kitchen sink at handfuls of dispersed terrorist units and you are bound to hit one. Look, everyone knows the US has tremendous military and clandestine power and might. Work like knocking out terrorist leaders is the stuff that should be done in secret. We don’t need public post op reports.

Somebody is greasing the skids to keep the funding alive, I suspect.

Should we be astonished that the military and CIA collaborate. For crying out loud, we hope they are. That is what we expect.

Having said that, if you have been watching, the Obama administration has amassed considerable executive experience at the CIA and DOD with a true team of interchangeable parts. National security is a top priority, and Obama has nailed it.

Some tout Hillary Clinton as one of the best Secretaries of State ever. I don’t know about that because I don’t think she has been armed with the best Foreign Policy ever.

It would be wonderful if the Joint Special Operations Command ran silent and ran deeper, IMO.

“Strike on Aulaqi demonstrates collaboration between CIA and military

By Greg Miller, Published: September 30

Traveling from secret bases on opposite sides of Yemen, armed drones from the CIA and the military’s Joint Special Operations Command converged above Anwar al-Aulaqi’s positionin northern Yemen early Friday and unleashed a flurry of missiles.

US officials said the CIA was in control of all the aircraft, as well as the decisions to fire, and that the operation was so seamless that even hours later, it remained unclear whether a drone supplied by the CIA or the military fired the missile that ended the al-Qaeda leader’s life.

Aulaqi’s death represents the latest, and perhaps most literal, illustration to date of the convergence between the CIA and the nation’s elite military units in the counterterrorism fight.

President Obama described Aulaqi’s death as “a tribute to our intelligence community” and gave credit to Yemeni security forces who, he said, had “worked closely with the United States over the course of several years.”

But after a decade of often inconclusive efforts against al-Qaeda, the Obama administration has relied on new levels of collaboration between the CIA and JSOC to push the terrorist network closer to collapse.

In May, U.S. Navy SEALS who serve under JSOC killed Osama bin Laden during a raid deep into Pakistan that relied on intelligence and covert action authority from the CIA.

At the same time, the administration has sought to put new pressure on al-Qaeda affiliates in Yemen and Somalia by surrounding those countries with aconstellation of drone bases. These include a new CIA facility in the Arabian peninsula that played a key role in Friday’s operation. U.S. drones also fly from military installations in Djibouti, Ethi­o­pia and the Seychelles.

Even leadership ranks have begun to blur: Former CIA director Leon E. Panetta is now secretary of defense; David H. Petraeus, previously the military commander in Iraq and Afghanistan, is just weeks into his new assignment as head of the CIA.

The attack on Aulaqi blended capabilities from both sides and was carried out under CIA authority that allowed for greater latitude in conducting lethal operations outside conventional war zones. Themilitary aircraft came across the Gulf of Aden from Djibouti, which has been the primary base for JSOC drones patrolling Yemen for much of the past year.

U.S. officials said that CIA drones involved in the strike took off from an agency base in the Arabian peninsula so new that it had become operational only in recent weeks.

The opening of that base was part of a two-pronged strategy by the administration to exploit JSOC’s ability to work closely with Yemen’s counterterrorism units on the ground while pushing the CIA to replicate aspects of its lethally efficient drone campaign in Pakistan.

The Post has agreed not to disclose the exact location of the new CIA drone base at the request of the Obama administration. Even before that facility was completed, the agency was escalating pressure on al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, as the group’s Yemen-based offshoot is known.”

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TipuSultan

I think instead of Killing these terrorists we should kill CIA which developed and funded these terrorists.

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YankeeJim

I understand your viewpoint. There is sufficient evidence to support the notion that American CIA gave birth and legs to their own worst enemeies.

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"thirty-aught-six"

Poppycock. The Afghan resistance movement assisted by the United States, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, People's Republic of China and others, contributed material and financial assistance to anti-Soviet forces through the Pakistani intelligence services. There was no such animal as either the Taliban nor al-Qaeda during that period.

The United States, the United Kingdom, and Saudi Arabia became major financial contributors, the United States donating "$600 million in aid per year, with a matching amount coming from the Persian Gulf states."[91] The People's Republic of China also sold Type 59 tanks, Type 68 assault rifles, Type 56 assault rifles, Type 69 RPGs, and much more to mujahideen in co-operation with the CIA, as did Egypt with assault rifles. Most notably the CIA donated FIM-92 Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems, which caused notable changes to Soviet tactics.

The US tended to favor the Afghan resistance forces led by Ahmed Shah Massoud, and US support for Massoud's forces increased considerably during the Reagan administration in what US military and intelligence forces called "Operation Cyclone".

The Soviet Union finally withdrew from Afghanistan in 1989. To the surprise of many, Mohammad Najibullah's communist Afghan government hung on for three more years, before being overrun by elements of the mujahideen. With mujahideen leaders unable to agree on a structure for governance, chaos ensued, with constantly reorganizing alliances fighting for control of ill-defined territories, leaving the country devastated.

Once the Soviets withdrew, February 15, 1989, US interest in Afghanistan ceased. The US decided not to help with reconstruction of the country and instead they handed over the interests of the country to US allies, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Pakistan quickly took advantage of this opportunity and forged relations with warlords and later the Taliban, to secure trade interests and routes. From wiping out the country's trees through logging practices, which has destroyed all but 2% of forest cover country-wide, to substantial uprooting of wild pistachio trees for the exportation of their roots for therapeutic uses, to opium agriculture.

The Taliban movement developed and formed from orphans or refugee children who were forced by the Soviets to flee their homes and relocate their lives in Pakistan. The swift rise to power, from the young Taliban in 1996, was the result of the disorder and civil war that had warlords running wild because of the complete breakdown of law and order in Afghanistan after the departure of the Soviets, February 15, 1989.

And Osama bin laden didn't form al-Qaeda until after he had left Afghanistan and was exiled by the Saudi Government. On the use of the name al-Qaeda, OBL states, "That particular name is very old. It was born without any intention from us. Brother Abu Ubaida... created a military base to train the young men to fight against the vicious, arrogant, brutal, terrorizing Soviet empire... So this place was called "The Base" ["Al-Qai`dah"], as in a training base. Osama usurped that name and history of cause to give credibility to his anti-western terrorist organization.

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The 1

And the world goes round..

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Saltydog

I've blamed a lot of my troubles on the unseen heroes, who provide the continuity-at ... great personal risk...daily...(pause)...about Somalia, (and 2nd Peter, 1st Chapter, (i think that's right), speaks about the importance of government, (maybe in a chapter early on)...).(pause)...about Somalia, (and is it true: We all have destinies, if we are well considered, and consider soberly, with good, sober, counsel), about Somalia -- don't we all have "stuff," (good, bad, otherwise)????(pause) ...and isn't the question, (metaphorical or alegorical?)...When will the rains come???? -- humbly submitted to a forum where-in calm is sought, i would think???? -- Keep up the good work, Now Public!!!! (no kidding: Cooler heads must and will prevail.) -- Saltydog

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