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by publicenemy | November 26, 2011 at 03:14 am
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A few weeks ago we read reports that Her Majesty the Queen had signed the amendment “to ensure that the UK’s justice system can no longer be abused for political reasons” and Israeli politicians do no longer stand the risk of being welcome with an arrest warrant when visiting Britain.
Fair enough, but we cannot help wonder why Her Majesty cannot also ensure that the UK's justice system is no longer abused (and not only abused, but made a mockery of) for party political reasons by Her Majesty’s government, when the abuses do not affect foreign dignitaries, but her Majesty’s more ordinary subjects. The sovereign is deemed, after all, to be the fount of justice, in whose name justice is delivered by the British courts.
Her Majesty has known (even better than us) about these abuses for at least four years and knows very well what the families of the sea tragedies' victims and we have gone through all this time - about the continual harassment, intimidation and the systematic destruction of our lives. Yet, for as many years, we've been left to fend ourselves against revenge-seeking criminals. It is true that the Royal Family have shown us their support from time to time, and we are deeply grateful for their encouragement, especially during the hostile Labour regime, and for the hope that when the Tories returned to power our troubles would end. [*]
However, so far, no amendment has been signed or word has been delivered in our favour, and things for all concerned have gone from bad to worse. (We understand that, at the same time, the phone hacking saga and other associated political pressures have caused Her Majesty’s government a lot of discomfiture and that, often, promises cannot be honoured on time.) Yet, we would very much like to know why such gross abuses can get ignored for so long.
Of course, our Head of State is now very old; so, perhaps in asking such questions now there’s hardly any point - if there’s ever been one.
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[*] We did not quite understand what the US administration had to do with the cover-up of all this wrongdoing, but we can easily venture a guess.
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at 10:25 on November 26th, 2011
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/repression-potential-whistleblowers-post-democratic-age
Your previous story linked above is interesting. The tactics you describe used against political dissidents and whistleblowers are very similar to COINTELPRO and gang stalking in the U.S. These things always lead to the top of the political food chain. I believe what is called gang stalking in the states is really COINTELPRO outsourced to criminal subagents of the FBI (i.e., snitches). Gang stalking has also expanded the range of COINTELPRO from repression of dissidents, whistleblowers, etc., to larger social engineering police schemes reaching a lot of apolitical types used for factionalization, bait, etc.
I watched the scandal related to Murdoch's News of the World with some interest. It reached the highest echelon of Scotland Yard. I wondered whether the House of Commons and/or Lords ever inquired into privacy invasions by MI-5 and MI-6 the way the Church Committee and Rockefeller Comission investigated their American counterparts in the 1970's. It defies reason when I speak to people here with advanced degrees who do not even know what COINTELPRO was, not to speak of what gang stalking is.
It might be interesting if someone like yourself decided to write about Parliamentary inquiry into privacy abuses in the U.K. I'm sure something could be dug up. The parallels between Communist, Fascist, and third world police states, as they relate to incorporation of the citizen spy into intrusive and abusive systemic civil rights violations, is startling
at 03:01 on November 27th, 2011
Please see reply below.
at 03:00 on November 27th, 2011
Yes, COINTELPRO and gang stalking are used here in the UK with the tacit approval (as well as at the instigation) of the UK government/ civil service/British Establishment.
The Murdoch's phone-hacking scandal has the potential to reach even higher levels than the top of the Scotland Yard, but, as it is always the case in the UK, it will probably all end up in a shabby compromise.
As far as I know, there is no Parliamentary inquiry into privacy abuses in the UK, nor, I suspect, any interest in having one. Trying to involve our pathetic MPs in such an investigation is practically impossible; they have a stake in maintaining the status quo. Cases like ours, although much more outrageous than the phone-hacking saga, is of no interst to the various political factions in the UK, other than using us as bagaining chips in their quid pro quos.
at 05:55 on November 27th, 2011
You bring up two interesting points.
When politics and legal justice clash, often the rule of law is the loser. "Shabby compromise" can well describe the results of the Church Committee hearings in the U.S. All of the agencies analyzed systematically broke the law regarding individual privacy rights, particularly in the area of due process rights. All that came of it was the FISA statute and stricter internal administrative regulations, both of which have been widely circumvented. The political horse trading by factions maintaining the status quo has also facilitated the condoning of outrageous practices in the U.S. We are additionally handicapped by the lack of a publicly financed elections system.
at 07:27 on November 27th, 2011
The US political system is corrupted on numerous levels, processes, and function today..
at 11:47 on November 27th, 2011
A publicly financed elections system would be a very good idea, but it is going to be fiercely opposed. They reckon that too much democracy is not good for us. (Mind you, in Britain the political parties don't even hold primaries). The current electoral practices mean that the public gets circumvented all the time. It's an affair between political candidates and their sponsors - talking over our heads.
at 06:42 on November 27th, 2011
Nobody in the UK talks about gangstalking, its strictly the province of weirdos.
at 08:36 on November 27th, 2011
you talk bollocks (not verified)------------------ at 06:42 on November 27th, 2011------------------------ "Nobody in the UK talks about gangstalking, its strictly the province of weirdos."------------ Then how is it that you know about it? And how is it that you're so sure that "it's strictly the province of weirdos." While there are some "weirdos" providing cover, this sadistic operation, known as "gang stalking" to many, is taking place all over the world. (I dare say that "you talk bollocks.")
at 17:38 on November 27th, 2011
I had never heard of it before coming here to nowpublic. I lived in the UK 20 years and never once heard it mentioned. It is clearly the province of weirdos since if you read the articles/comments on nowpublic only weirdos talk about it.
at 08:48 on November 27th, 2011
The following comment can be found in an online Veteran's Today article. I'll let readers reach their own conclusions.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "By TH on 2009-11-14 16:00:38 Maybe this what is happening to me. I am a Muslim and a chartered surveyor in the UK and have been hounded and stalked for the past four years ever since I wrote articles on the internet as a citizen journalist. Some of the ploys used include being startled by strangers suddenly appearing from no where and stumbling into me. This happens upto several times a day even though the pavement may be generally clear.I also have my property and car routinely vandalised irregardless where they are or where I am parked. To date have changed my car tyres several times for each one. I have to get about because of my job.My car is shunted from the rear at least twice a year even if I am parked and consistently having to wait for repairs to be done. Some of the more colourful harassment I can only describe as bizarre head games. For example one of the regular incidences involves a couple having a heated argument in my vicinity. They may be different people involved but the words they use are exactly the same. Another regular event includes a military type Land Rover in camouflage tail gate me on the motorway. I can tell vehicles are not the genuine article, Variations includes a standard unmarked car driven by individuals in camo or military type beret and shirt sleeves. Again they don't look like the genuine articles.Most of these activities vary over time but they largely involve startling, imprinting and sustaining stress on an ongoing basis. Occasionally, I have been physically hurt by caustic substances that have been wiped on door handles and equipment I am using out doors.I am in early middle age and otherwise of good character but have had immense difficulties getting the police to assist, not taken seriously by the authorities and on occasions being told point blank that they are under instruction not to turn me away. When I am with company, the harassment ceases but the stalking is maintained with the stalker endeavouring to make visual contact at a distance often smirking and shaking their heads. When I do point them out to others they snap away.It has come to a point now I don't even bother to make a fuss although I suspect it is this passivity that is sought. When I leave home the same cars or individuals pull out behind me and at the end of the day follows me back home. I work irregular hours. The same deal happens when I go to the supermarket with the stalker waiting outside the shop for when I leave, Restaurants are a particular problem with the stalker on duty attempting to get a table next to mine and if unsuccessful standing outside the establishment. If this is what has happened to Hasan Nidal, it then must have started several years earlier."
at 11:49 on November 27th, 2011
anon, thanks for the article quoted!
at 09:11 on November 27th, 2011
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO------------------No one in the U.S should get out of high school without being taught the history of COINTELPRO. Likewise, MKULTRA (and all of the other wicked things in which our government has been involved): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA
at 14:49 on November 27th, 2011
anon com (not verified) Thxs for these two above posts. These issues are real, although as you can see, proving it is another issue..Three issue then_organized stalking, EMF electronic attack, and then proving any or all of it legally.
at 19:44 on November 27th, 2011
Nobody in the UK talks about gangstalking, its strictly the province of weirdos.
So, there you have it.
In addition to the stalking, "they" get to call the victims "weirdos" for even talking about it. How sweet is that?
at 20:44 on November 27th, 2011
Whatever, the people who talk about gangstalking are not even close to half as weird as this article. It's weird.
at 03:15 on November 28th, 2011
All this gans are from east Europe. Most from poland and Romania.