NASA, no ticket to ride, Georgia conflict may keep Astronauts down

by SOLARLIFE | August 14, 2008 at 02:57 pm
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The Georgia conflict may soon jump into space.
2010 latest the shuttle is grounded. The gap
should fill russian transporters. Russia may
not be wiiling to do so, or increase th price.
The russian cliper space craft, reusable
replaces Soyuz 2012.

Thursday, August 14, 2008 Washington, we have a problem... The latest international news, of course, is that the Russians are throwing their weight around in Georgia and most everyone else, including the US, doesn't approve. This might all quiet down and blow over; that's happened before. Or it might not, in which case relations between the US and Russia might be less friendly for a while. This could make life interesting for NASA in 2011.

That's when NASA's current contract with the Russians for Soyuz flights to the space station ends. I expect that the Russians will provide flights through the end of the current contract even if relations deteriorate; hard cash doesn't hypnotise them the way it used to, but it still carries weight. There might be some delays and some unforeseen extra fees (say, a little fuel surcharge), but they'll deliver . . . on those flights.

Trouble is, NASA is currently in the early stages of trying to negotiate an extension to that contract. And that might prove difficult. More precisely, it's already difficult, and now it might prove impossible.

It's not so much that the Russians will completely refuse to sell. They've figured out this "capitalism" stuff. Unfortunately, they've also gone on to more advanced concepts like "market dominance", "monopoly", and "price gouging". A far more likely way for negotiations to collapse is that they simply set their ticket price higher than Congress is willing to pay.

The price might also be more than money. There's already a non-monetary problem on the US side: the Iran Non-Proliferation Act bars buying from the Russians unless the Russians stop helping Iran with its nuclear programme, and Congress is balking at giving NASA another exemption from this. Two can play that game. What if the Russian government's price for more Soyuz rides is that the US concede Russian control of parts of Georgia?

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Uwe Paschen
Uwe Paschen
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at 02:02 on August 15th, 2008

SOLARLIFE, I like this story. It's good stuff.

What about the European Transporter and the J. Verne Space craft?

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SOLARLIFE

Hi Paschen, "European space transporter ATV", well is working, but for the moment no return flight, only up. J. Verne good idea have to check..., cnn came to the same conclusion, russia at the moment the only for fly and back to ISS

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Smiley2

I think right now, there'll be some very serious thinking going on in NASA, and the government, I wouldn't be surprised to see an extension of the Shuttle program

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Uwe Paschen

The Chinese are ready or just about as well as the Japanese space shuttle to be build!

I think with the European space program and the Japanese one moving ahead and the way it has been developing we will be okay, maybe some delays and rethinking to happen!

However it should not be our main problem nor our worth one at the moment!

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Smiley2

I think American astronauts wouldn't agree with your comment its "our worth one at the moment" these things take many months and even years to sort out, so this is a top priority for NASA

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Uwe Paschen

For NASA yes, not for the World though! I think with some co-operation and good will we may solve this as well as some compromises may be needed! 

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Smiley2

In my opinion, the International Space Station for the world is very important, and its building must continue. A project like this which involves more than one country but especially USA and Russia, can help their relationship. It wasn't so long ago that it would have been impossible for USA and Russia to build this station had Russia still been the Soviet Union. A good relationship between these two countries is important for the whole world. Try to think in a broader sphere.

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SOLARLIFE

Thanks to all for ISS space comment "important for the whole world. Try to think in a broader sphere." special thanks to Smiley2,  go together....

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