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NASA's Moon Bombing: More Fizzle Than Sizzle?
UPDATE, Friday morning, Oct. 9, 8:45 a.m. -- The Moon bombing apparently came off with a fizzle, not a bang. As network anchors watched and waited breathlessly, the grainy images from NASA -- live video taken from the orbiting module and an infrared camera image -- showed absolutely nothing. No six-mile debris plume spewing from the Moon's surface. No infrared signs of a steamy impact. Nothing. Nada.
NASA cameras quickly switched to a control room scene, with mission commanders and minions doing the requisite hand shakes and back-slapping. The space agency declared the mission a success -- and there was no more talk by the TV anchors of the fly-by telemetry that was supposed to reveal whether the probe actually resulted in the release of ice crystals. Attention quickly turned to the surprise announcement that President Obama had won the Nobel peace prize.
So what happened up there on the Moon this morning? Does a major government agency advertise as its coming attraction a six-mile-high debris plume and then get away with saying, "Never mind?" Or, is it possible that a weapons testing phase of the mission was shut down over belated concerns that the debris raised by an intense impact could create rings around the moon, a debris field that would endanger future missions?
Did the mission fail, resulting in no major impact at all? Or is "success" being redefined as something less than promised?
At this point, it apparently depends on who and what you choose to believe; we await the release by NASA of scientific data that confirms the mission's success or failure.
Remember, the American public was lied to and never told by NASA about that '60s-era manned spy lab, a military mission disguised as a civilian space shot. So the possibility that this Moon bombing was an aborted weapons test cannot be ruled out. As they say, you can't prove a negative, especially if a civilian space agency is used as cover to pursue the national security goal of the weaponization of space.
THE ORIGINAL STORY FOLLOWS:
• Searching for water, when it's already been discovered? Or a "directed energy" weapons test?
• A violation of international treaties?
• Will debris cause RINGS to appear around the Moon -- or dim the moonlight, possibly affecting the Earth's climate?
• Lunar space junk to pose a hazard to future missions?
• Should the President of the U.S. order a stop to the bombing?
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On Friday, Oct. 9th, a NASA space module is scheduled to crash a projectile into the surface of the moon at twice the speed of a bullet, causing a massive explosion that's expected to send into the lunar atmosphere a six-mile-high plume of debris -- enough moondust to be visible from planet Earth.
The government's stated reason for this Mythbuster-like, blow-'em-up exercise:
To determine if there's a substantial amount of water on the Moon.
Now, for some questions that mainstream Pentagon, White House and tech beat journalists should be asking:
Is this really the best way to divine for H2O? Didn't an analysis of a past NASA missions already determine that water vapor exists on the moon? Why is a "moon bomb" needed to establish the presence of water when it's already been done?
Or -- is this just a cover story to cloak the real mission behind this lunar weapons assault?
What's the nature of the explosive trigger? It has been described as a "kinetic bomb" (see Scientific American link, below). What does that really mean?
Is this actually some sort of a microwave or laser or plasma or particle beam directed energy weapons test -- a doomsday space weapon?
Note that the Scientific American article linked below says the space module that discharges the "kinetic bomb" will continue to orbit the moon for a year after impact. Is this really the stealth installation of a space weapon into the "high ground" of lunar orbit?
It's been eons since the last massive lunar impact. Will the dust and debris sent into the lunar atmosphere by this NASA adventure dim the moonlight? And for how long? Will this debris cause "rings" around our Moon? Think that's not possible? Guess again; last year, scientists discovered rings around a moon of Saturn -- the first time astronomers observed such a phenomenon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13421-saturn-satellite-reveals-first-moon-rings.html
Should NASA risk messing with "Earth's night-light" like this? Could there be an effect on weather here on Earth if the amount of reflected sunlight from the moon is diminished?
Who is to say that this explosion might not cause a fracture in the lunar surface that could trigger a massive "moonquake" -- possibly enough to affect the lunar axial rotation, nudging the moon out of its orbit and perhaps causing the sphere to lose some orbital velocity, putting the orb on a collision course with the Earth -- if not soon, sometime sooner than would have been predicted by astrophysics?
Okay, I know... this sounds far-fetched. I'm no astrophysicist, just a skeptical journalist. But how much does NASA really know about the plate tectonics of the moon? Could this man-made explosion trigger unanticipated, perhaps even drastic, consequences?
Didn't someone wisely say, "Don't mess with Mother Nature?" I am being serious here. At least starting asking some questions. Today, not after the fact.
http://current.com/items/90211992_nasa-scheduled-to-set-off-moon-explosion-this-week.htm
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nasas-mission-to-bomb-the-moon-2009-06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxE0DoiYlfE
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at 16:45 on October 6th, 2009
The moon has been hit many times by meteorites that have caused much more damage than this bomb will cause. however a moon rock could be heading your way, remember to duck, lol
at 15:34 on October 7th, 2009
But how many eons since the last big hit? Rings around our Moon, anyone? And how long would such dust remain in orbit around the Moon, which may have just enough gravity to hold it there. If that cuts down on moonlight, couldn't there be climatological effects on Earth? I am just raising the question, I don't have answers. I do wonder if NASA is asking enough questions. The agency hasn't educated the public on this, that seems certain.
My main point here is that this could be a weapons test in disguise, and if so, that means the U.S. is violating international treaties that bar the weaponization of space. And it's important that people worldwide recognize that microwave, laser, particle beam and gas lasers are among the new generation of weapons of mass destruction, and I don't hear anyone talking about controlling the proliferation of such "directed energy weapons.
But if you want to make a joke out of it, who am I to argue? After all, you are "Number 7"!
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Anonymously Given (not verified)at 08:18 on October 7th, 2009
According to "2012 Comet" internet lore, such a large asteroid-busting test may be necessary as a matter of earth defense! (Seems like nukes would be more appropriate)
at 08:26 on October 7th, 2009
Wowser! It could become cloudy, with a chance of green cheese!
at 16:46 on October 7th, 2009
Touche!
I do recall reading some time ago that a meteor impact on a moon of Saturn may have caused the appearance of rings around that moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13421-saturn-satellite-reveals-first-moon-rings.html
If rings appear around our Moon, even if it's just a "cosmetic" effect, there will be hell to pay at NASA and the other government agencies that may be involved in what could be a doomsday weapon test. Just a theory, but something to think about.
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Reality-Check (not verified)at 10:19 on October 7th, 2009
They want to see if there's water on the moon... really? I somehow think that the water thirsty Las Vegas is behind this. NASA and our politicians that support these projects need to come out of their little rooms and look around; there's more important issues this country and humanity should be focusing on that are more worthy of funding. "Ooh, a graduate student huh? How come you guys can go to the moon but can't make my shoes smell good?" -- Homer Simpson
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Ilk (not verified)at 11:46 on October 7th, 2009
They are looking for enough water to prove that there is life on the moon, or that there was life on the moon at some time in hisory! They want to deliver that 15 second blurb about life on the moon! I can't wait to hear it! Why are you surprised by anything at this point, Vic? Don't you know this is all just a dog's dream?
at 15:30 on October 7th, 2009
What he said.
Didn't mention it in the piece, but Nova did a report a few months ago about the military astronaut corps of the Sixties, and the parallel space program that put into orbit a manned spy lab.
Now we're putting into orbit a lunar module to do what? Measure ice crystals? Yeah, that's the ticket. Ice crystals. They'll believe that one...
Or are we weaponizing space in violation of international treaties?
Just asking questions. No need to interrogate me for my "sources."
But in this day and age, how soon before the truth comes out? Again, just asking...
...a trait that apparently has been bred out of today's crop of Pentagon, White House and tech reporters.
But then again, maybe not. Stay tuned.
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Toxic Prayer (not verified)at 16:28 on October 7th, 2009
Well, I guess they didn't bring into account that some of the measured manmade seismic events during the moon landings (if they happend) suggest that the moon may be somewhat hollow so, they might just put a big hole in it.
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don the man (not verified)at 17:07 on October 7th, 2009
i heard they are gonna blow up the ET bases before the other nations go to the moon and discover them.
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Paul 1012 (not verified)at 19:18 on October 7th, 2009
Next weeks headlines will read: "US Bombs Moon, President Says No Ground Forces To Go In". Next month's headlines to read: "President To Send 40,000 Troops To The Moon Keep The Peace". "President Authorises 3 Billion To Fund Moon War".
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Walky (not verified)at 07:42 on October 8th, 2009
"What's the nature of the explosive trigger? It has been described as a "kinetic bomb" (see Scientific American link, below). What does that really mean?"...Seriously? You don't know what a kinetic bomb is? Did you never have a physics class?A kinetic bomb is simply a projectile (normally dropped in a vector relatively perpendicular to its target) that causes an explosion due to its kinetic energy. Or, put another way, you hit something with some other thing at a really really high speed. The sheer force of the object hitting at that speed creates the blast, as the kinetic energy is transferred in the impact. If you drop a rock from high enough, it becomes a kinetic bomb. In this case, the kinetic bomb is the part of the spacecraft that will crash and cause the impact. The part that will remain in orbit is a fairly small makeshift tube rigged with sensors that will fly through the ejecta plume, observe the impact with cameras, and take measurements."But how much does NASA really know about the plate tectonics of the moon?"Probably not much, considering there are no plates on the moon, let alone plate tectonics.
at 09:49 on October 8th, 2009
Please provide me with a source that says that scientists know for sure that the moon does not have a molten core that could cause the surface layers to shift, as in "moonquake." It is my understanding that science does not know about the core structure of the Moon. We are just finding out that water vapor apparently is trapped inside the Moon. I await your source.
As for the "kinetic bomb," I suppose I am theorizing that there's more to this than just Newtonian physics. Yes, I believe we may not be getting the whole truth. It has happened before (the manned spy lab is one example). What if the projectile is accelerated by means of the creation of a vacuum greater than that of the lunar atmosphere?
Also, you did not address the issue of the debris from the impact rising up in the thin lunar atmosphere to create "rings" that could be captured by the sphere's weak gravity. Or are you here to tell me that's not possible, either?
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ranmel (not verified)at 19:39 on October 8th, 2009
these are some of the same question i was asking myself. how can NASA be 100% sure nothing will happen. metorites may hit the moon on a regular basis. thats a natural accurance. something man made is not a natural accurance. there is no telling what might happen. i personly think its a bad idea. i also think the public should of had a chance to vote on rather or not this should of been done. since the public is paying for with our hard earned money.
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NealValens (not verified)at 21:04 on October 8th, 2009
Just asking questions, always just asking questions, eh. I've got a question for ranmel: WTF does "accurance" mean? As for your tax dollars, there sure should have been more of them put towards your education.Your spelling and grammar "is attroshuss"!Scrivener, I sure am glad that I didn't have you sitting next to me in any of my physics classes.Of course you probably wouldn't have lasted too long. Somebody would have probably strangled you after your 20th stupid question on day one.
at 05:48 on October 9th, 2009
There is no such thing as a stupid question. There are only stupid answers. Thanks for yours.
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NealValens (not verified)at 07:45 on October 9th, 2009
How can Sarah Palin be considered a potential POTUS candidate in 2012 when her IQ has been calculated in the low single digits? Are all Republicans actually foreign agents bent on destroying the USA? Why was President Benedict Arnold elected for 16 terms? Did the aliens that landed in Roswell really go on to play professional baseball in Mexico? How can Elvis be buried in Graceland when he has been spotted dozens of times since his alleged death? These questions merit answering Scrivener. Can you help us here on the planet Zirxon?We believe your answer to my previous comment is very astute. You have enlightened us.No stupid questions. You are brilliant. Please, more questions sire.
at 08:25 on October 9th, 2009
Sure: Who's paying you? If it's the American people, can we demand a refund, please?
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Ilk (not verified)at 08:36 on October 9th, 2009
Great W.P. comment Vic, thank you for standing up against this genocide. Today I found out that the "Bell" families are frequently targeted, and McGill is the same clan as Bell. The woman who was explaining it went to McGill University, and she was related to the Bells. She said they are the Vatican Assassins. Vic, the Moon is something to worry about, sure, but what about the Earth? They are causing these earthquakes, and some say the Apocalypse will be caused by earthquakes. I think it is happening right under our noses, and it is a man-made Apocalypse. Who promised it wouldn't be man-made, right?
at 08:47 on October 9th, 2009
When an unjustly targeted journalist gets this kind of apparently official (taxpayer-funded?) "attention," you know we the people of the United States of America are living in a union that is becoming less-perfect, not the other way around.
Please, sir, find another mission. This one has turned into a laughing stock, even on the inside, or so I gather...
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Dave Williams (not verified)at 10:38 on October 9th, 2009
My Uncle is Kevin L. Petersen former director of Nasa.. We are together this weekend for a wedding and we got up early to also watch. What my uncle said to me last night was watch for the black out .. and sure enough.. He wont go into details but told us today at breakfast that Nasa wasnt looking for water. You need about 1 ton of moon rock to produce 32 ounces of water.. The abilty to do something like this is far far far away.. We barely can keep the shuttle in space let alone build a proccesor on the moon to produce water he said and he said while laughing.... Also he said watch for a big annoucement about Mars then he dropped the subject and moved on to his bacon.. Even as we pressed him, he said there are somethings he just cant and wont talk about.. but he did say this, Nasa has pictures of Mars that prove more that there is more than justwater up there... by the way I am only a 12 year old kid so you can either believe me or take it with a grain of salt..
at 11:13 on October 9th, 2009
Well, kid, you write a comment that sounds much more genuine than most. Kevin L. Peterson was director of the Dryden Flight Research Center, I don't think he was NASA director (didn't spend a lot of much on the Google with this). So, either you are for real, or "the community" finally has produced an operative who's jiggy wit da NLP. I'd say it's about time!
If you're for real, ask your uncle's intel contacts to translate. Actually, if you are for real and you posted here and uncle Kevin doesn't know about it, he's going to hit the ceiling when he finds out! Isn't it interesting how the nation's mainstream media just takes the "hand-out"? Check back here later...
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Anony (not verified)at 14:04 on October 9th, 2009
One of the many theories is by Hoagland that there is a structure is the moon that needed to be destroyed. Following link might add to that conspiracy.www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sto4F2vBZg&feature=related
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nogoodendinsight (not verified)at 00:14 on October 12th, 2009
I would have been extremely astonished had there been any sign of impact in that TV transmission. The lying bastards once again used their plaster of Paris moon model to fool the sheeple. Don't believe it? USGS Clementine took 1.9 million pictures of the moon in 1994, the majority of which we will never see. Take a look at Jose Escamilla's Moon Rising, there you see authentic color pics. Yellow, purple, blue, orange, brown, and, yes, GREEN. They do not resemble at all the greyscale naked landscapes that are so characteristic of models. Nasa is looking for water on the moon? If Nasa get near the moon with weapons they're blown out of the sky, that's why they're using models (Challenger and Columbia were lessons well learned). If you people see original color pics of Luna you will have to adjust your view of reality. Is there life on other planets? In our solar system, there hardly is a rock where there is NO life! As one NASA employee put it: Nasa didn't lie about some things, Nasa lied about EVERYTHING. Just check the technical details in ANY Nasa mission; they never add up. In 1971, the eruption of a geyser on the moon was observed by at least 120 individual astronomers. The resulting CLOUD of water vapour expanded to 100 square miles. No atmosphere on the moon? Use your brain! Perhaps you cannot breathe it, but the GREEN stuff must have some nutritional base, i.e. carbon dioxide, and where there's water there's oxygen (the O in H2O).. The moon does not really rotate because it is hollow and powered by two massive engines that show up in IR pictures. The moon was brought here approx. 300,000 to 500,000 years ago according to samples, it is at least two billion years older than earth. There even are legends telling of the pro-selenes, of the people that lived on earth when there was no moon. This latest Moon Fizzle only serves to refresh the sheeples' delusion that the moon still belongs to Nasa. They filmed the Apollo landings in Nevada because we aren't allowed to see what's really up there. Disclosure will not happen because all the lies are intricately woven into a net of illusion, populated by teleprompter-reading, crack-addled actors. We will have to take what is ours by right.The controllers still seem to think that everybody believes their Einstein scam. After more than one hundred years of no technical progress, even the most jaded conspiracy nut must wonder. What progress there was after WWII stemmed from the looting of German patent offices in 1945, because the Germans never accepted Albert Einstein's bullshit. Just look at particle physics: Higgs still postulates the God Particle because he doesn't have the slightest clue as to what is really going on. Burkhard Heim's Unified Field Theory or Nikola Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity delineate real physics; instead, the so-called scientists very attentively observe their own navels and perpetrate unscientific garbage. Planets without a magnetic field are about as realistic as living without blood circulation; nevertheless, academia defends such inanities to the point where real scientists are ruined just to demonstrate the idiots' power. If we had a nickel for every item we do not really know, each and every one of us would already have bought a solar system of their own. I would use part of mine to quarantine the disinfo kings.
at 05:04 on October 12th, 2009
Are you proud of yourself now?
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Qman (not verified)at 10:50 on October 14th, 2009
Did you break your message up into paragraphs?
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dave williams (not verified)at 20:34 on October 12th, 2009
Yea I asked my mom and your right, he wasnt director of Nasa but Dryden. He's been there for a while.. She said he works on experimental flight stuff... I am spending the weekend there this week.. I know where he keeps all his hidden stuff, me and my brother found a bunch a weird looking spaceship pictures and drawings.. .. so I will check back...
at 05:13 on October 13th, 2009
More adventures in lame psy ops...
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Anonymously Given (not verified)at 04:35 on October 14th, 2009
While we are tossing around crazy-sounding conspiracy theories, let's try the following one: They are setting up shop to do a HAARP II. Such a thing could be the subject for your next article Vic. See: h t t p : // www.haarp.net/mindcontrol.htm
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Anonymously Given (not verified)at 04:43 on October 14th, 2009
After reading the article (www.haarp.net/mindcontrol.htm), it brings to mind legions of "hypnotized" gang stalkers. All we have to do is convince congress to turn HAARP off, and all of these people will return to normal.