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New York Mayor Says Deporting Illegals Will Devastate Economy
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by Rory Cripps | June 27, 2010 at 05:45 am
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New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg joined forces on Thursday with Rupert Murdoch of News Corp. and CEOs from Hewlett-Packard, Boeing, and Disney along with other big-city mayors in a coalition supporting amnesty and citizenship for undocumented workers.
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According to the Washington Times, the coaltion "seeks to reframe immigration reform as the solution to repairing and stimulating the economy". Calling itself the Partnership for a New American Economy, the coalition wants more immigrants to come to America, less restrictions placed on the issuance of green cards, and a path to American citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants that are already here.
The billionaire mayor, a former CEO of the financial information company Bloomberg LP, also said at the time that all 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States should be given the opportunity for citizenship, saying that deporting them is impossible and would devastate the economy.Lawmakers who wanted to deport all illegal immigrants were "living in a fantasy world," he said.
Mayor Bloomberg and Rupert Murdoch, chairman and chief executive of News Corp., appeared together Thursday on Fox News network to discuss the effort:
Calling the present restrictions on immigration "national suicide", Bloomberg said, "This country needs a supply of immigrants to keep the Americans who are here today working. It's not the reverse." The mayor went on to say that studies of immigrants conducted in New York indicated that they have a low crime rate, pay taxes, and "don't use the hospitals and schools".
Murdoch spoke about the immigration issues facing those in Arizona and other border states. He acknowledged that the cultures in those areas have changed dramatically throughout the past few years and that many areas are now 50 percent Spanish-speaking.
"People feel that their culture is being changed . . . they feel upset by it, said Murdoch. "but we just have to adjust." Murdoch's plan is "to keep the pressure on the congressmen . . . show to the public the benefits of having migrants and the jobs that go with them."
Walt Disney Co. Chairman and CEO Robert Iger said, that immigrants are "our great strength as a nation, and it's also critical for continued economic growth."
The coalition will publish studies, conduct polls, and host forums, in order to educate the American public on the benefits that illegal immigrants and undocumented workers provide to the U.S. economy.
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at 06:32 on June 27th, 2010
Good post RC.
The deal is that the immigration service, now part of Homeland Security, lacked the capacity to efficiently and accurately process visitors and immigrant applicants.
As a nation, we have not established proper understanding about immigration goals or limits. We have no transparent national strategy, and our public education about the subject is completely inadequate.
We were taught in school that immigrants were good, though each new group faced resistance. Without the Chinese, the railroad would not have been completed. We had waves of Irish and Italians, Poles, Germans, Mexicans, Vietnamese, etc.
Immigration is not bad, it is a part of our fabric. The question is, what is healthy immigration? How do we regulate it?
at 06:57 on June 27th, 2010
Thank you, Jim! But do you see the absurdity in what Bloomberg, Murdoch, et al. have said and what they're pushing for? Quite frankly, I believe that Bloomberg and Murdoch are megalomaniacs, sociopaths, and mental cases. In addition, they exemplify how completely out of touch the political class and the elitists are with the American voter and the average American.
Bloomberg flat out said, that immigrants are the only thing that keeps Americans working and that it's not Americans that keep immigrants working. To even hint at such policies when there are currently over 15 million American citizens unemployed, is the height of hubris and arrogance. Indeed Murdoch essentially said to those living in the border states, "Fuck you! You don't like what's happening, too bad! I know better!". Good lord! And people wonder why their are angry groups such as the Tea Party out there.
I hope y'all realize that it requires the creation of approximately 200,000 new jobs per month just to absorb new workers entering the American work force. That doesn't include immigrants and undocumented workers and only applies to American citizens. There are officially 15 million unemployed Americans. But that figure only includes those that are still being counted. The actual number is closer to 25 million. If there are15 million officially unemployed and it requires the creation of 200,000 new jobs per month to absorb new entrants into the American work force, then how the hell does the addition of 12 million undocumented workers help? Do the math . . . .
at 07:01 on June 27th, 2010
Points made very well. In a somewhat oblique reference, read Andre Schiffrin's treatise about what happened to book publishing when media conglomerates took over. The end of free thinking might be nearer than people think.
Thanks NowPublic and the Examiner too.
at 09:55 on June 27th, 2010
what these book corporations now offer us is sadly lacking in diversity. and what now passes for a national 'Best-seller' is pathetic.
at 07:59 on June 27th, 2010
The New York Mayor along with others should look at the unemployment numbers. Business who employ Undocumented workers (PC) are violating the law. The folks who are here are violating the law. Our government is supposed to be protecting the border. If you protect the border you keep billions of dollars from crossing in to another country.. that is causing problems to the economy.
at 08:27 on June 27th, 2010
You lost me at: According to the Washington Times.
at 08:45 on June 27th, 2010
nanute: Who cares! What ever you think about the Washington Times, there's no doubt that it's more objective than the "progressive" bird cage liner that you feast your eyes upon every day. HA! :) BTW: The times story is based on an AP story. :)
Thanks for the rec though! Much appreciated!
at 09:07 on June 27th, 2010
In other related news the United Farm Workers are issuing a challenge to unemployed Americans to take their jobs: San Francisco –Immigrant farm workers are issuing a challenge for Americans to take their jobs. As reported by the Associated Press (AP), the United Farm Workers of America has begun a “Take Our Jobs” campaign to give unemployed workers the opportunity to experience the work of farmers, in response to purported assertions made by politicians and activists that work has been taken from Americans and hurt the economy, as well as the call for immigration reform. Comedian Stephen Colbert is set to feature the campaign on his Comedy Central show, the “Colbert Report” on July 8.
at 09:26 on June 27th, 2010
nanute: What's the pay? BTW: Americans have been farming for years. They did a pretty good job of it too. I think the country should get back to being more self subsistent. Do you think that picking lettuce under the sun requires unique talents, ability, stamina, and fortitude that only Mexican's possess? If you think so, then with all that talent and skill, why can't undocumented workers stay south of the border and fix the mess that their country is? Mexico is a basket case of corruption and failed social and political institutions. It always has been. And now that the drug cartels are running amuck, burning down homes and businesses and killing people on the streets, it's even more of a basket case. Where is the morality in forcing American citizens to suffer and pay for another country's ills?
at 10:37 on June 27th, 2010
Rory, It's too late for America to go back to it agricultural roots. Are you aware that the farmers that are left can't even replant the seed stock from last years crops in certain cases? The "conservative" US Supreme Court has ruled that Monsanto owns the patent to genetically engineered seed and prohibits farmers from owning them. In fact, there was a case in Canada where Monsanto sued a farmer for "planting" genetically modified alfalfa. The farmer next to him was planting the Round Up Ready Alfalfa, and the wind blew seed onto the farmers land.
We're in big trouble as a country, and blaming hapless Mexicans trying to find a better life is too easy a target. The corporations and the ruling elites are distracting the angry unemployed, and the tea party types to look for a villain where none exists. If they sent them all home tomorrow, do you honestly think our troubles would be over? We'd most likely starve in the short run. Immigration reform is necessary, granted. Xenophobia, and arguing to close the border and send all the illegals back won't fix it.
at 11:21 on June 27th, 2010
nanute: I'm certainly not blaming "hapless Mexicans"! I'm blaming idiots like Bloomberg! Well he's really not an idiot because he knows exactly what he's doing . . .but you know what I mean. I'm not calling for America to go back to its agricultural roots! JEEZ! There are a lot of economic issues related to farming and they've been going on for centuries. That's a whole different ball game. I'm just making the suggestion that Americans should be a little more self-subsistent. i.e., grow some of their own food. Come on! They're good at growing their own weed and that takes a lot more effort and knowledge than growing lettuce.
Who the hell is blaming America's woes on illegal immigrants? I'm not and I don't know any one else that is. But you've got to admit that people living in the border areas are getting the shaft from the federal government. And if guys like Bloomberg get their way, we're all going to get the shaft. Look up the word xenophobia by the way. That word is being applied rather loosely by "progressives" and the no-borders crowd. To apply the term xenophobe to an American that simply wants the federal government to enforce the immigration laws and control the borders is disingenuous to say the least.
at 12:14 on June 27th, 2010
Rory: If you are going to continue to affix labels, and insinuate that I'm in the "progressive" no borders crowd, there is no need to continue the discussion. Show me an example of a progressive arguing for an open border policy with no immigration restrictions. It certainly isn't my position, and I'm doubtful you can come up with a respected progressive that favors such a policy. Calling for a path forward to citizenship for those already here is sensible. Arguing that they are here illegally and are being rewarded for violating the law is a red herring. The only viable solution for this crowd is to send em' all back and make them go through the process of legal entry. Impossible, unworkable, and quite possibly xenophobic.
at 16:03 on June 27th, 2010
I am not so sure that agriculture has lost viability in this hungry world.
at 02:19 on June 28th, 2010
Jim: I'm not arguing that agriculture has lost viability. Quite the contrary, it is vitally important. The point is that who gets to control the planting of genetically modified seed is the larger and more looming problem. A cynic would buy lots of Monsanto.
at 08:39 on June 27th, 2010
Albert: Thanks for the rec! Bloomberg, et al. claim that they want the immigration laws enforced. Yeah right! Their idea of enforcing the immigration laws is to effectively grant amnesty to 12 million undocumented workers. Bloomberg, et al are so full of crap that I can smell it 1000 miles away down here in Florida. What American citizens are faced with is a Democratic Party that wants wide open borders and unchecked immigration for political purposes and a Republican Party that thinks slave labor is just peachy-keen because it increases the corporate fat cat's bottom line. It is a complete and total myth that undocumented workers are a positive influence on the American economy and that they are not a burden on the American taxpayer. The only purpose that undocumented workers serve is to work for slave wages and therefore keep the boss man's overhead down. If Americans are afraid of higher lettuce prices at the market, then they should either stop eating lettuce or grow their own.
at 09:49 on June 27th, 2010
You might find this amusing...... or not:
Who is Rupert Murdoch?
at 10:00 on June 27th, 2010
Rene: Thanks! WOW is all that I can say!
at 12:23 on June 27th, 2010
“Diversity is our strength. Unity in diversity”.
Actually, several academic studies would suggest otherwise. Irenaus Eibi-Eibesfeldt, Pierre van den Berghe and Harvard’s Robert Putnam have correlated growing diversity to declining trust, making a formerly homogeneous population less willing to vote for redistributive social programs that benefit those not like them.
Bob Birrell of Monash University also found that the more culturally diverse a community is, the lower the rate of civic volunteerism becomes. It is therefore apparent that there are both benefits and costs of diversity.
Variety may be the spice of life, but too much spice may give a society ethnic indigestion. Cultural cohesion is every bit as important as cultural pluralism. “Diversity” must be taken for what it is---a neutral term without either a positive or negative connotation. I have a diverse number of insects and pests that inhabit my home. I am afflicted with a diverse range of medical ailments. And I have a diverse number of creditors on my back, and it isn’t shrinking my total debt one bit.
Personally, I could do with a little less diversity in my life.
As for multiculturalism,well I am sure most of you who know me, what my stance is on that blathering insipid Political vote suck up acronym.
at 12:26 on June 27th, 2010
One day and one day soon, we will become a nation of cultural ghettos.
Each ghetto a mini nation. Patriotism for one's country will go the way of the buggy whip and national anthem, only sung at sporting events, only if we are lucky.
at 12:34 on June 27th, 2010
Cultural identity in a multi-ethnic nation, and I mean the word nation, is a weapon used by those advocating culture as identity to divide the population so to exert control and to manipulate them emotionally to get what they want. Which ultimately is more control.
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anymoose (not verified)at 13:41 on June 27th, 2010
regression to the city state and a victory for the tribalist.i think uncontrolled dwindling would speed things up ever so much more.