This is not domestic violence

Hi Barry,

Since I am not familiar with Heroux, it took me a few paragraphs to understand what you were talking about.

I hope after a few generations this kind of thing will stop.

Thank you both for your comments, true as you say Paschen we have radicals, Canadian born radicals, the difference is these radicals know their practices are against Canadian Law and are NOT Acceptable. Unfortunately in some countries these practices are ACCEPTABLE and ENCOURAGED by both Governments, Cultures and Religious beliefs and have been for a Millennium.  That is the difference I am writing about. When you are in someones house, it is courteous to abide by their house rules.

In response to your comments Sara, what Herouxville stated is correct, unfortunately many said this doesn't happen here in this country, contrary to this story by the reporter and other media reports in Canada, hence my stance that many should know the obvious wrongs of their actions, though the obvious oblivious governments, chest thump and deny it happens, but because of political correctness condone it, as it is clear they are not stopping it, by failing to inform those we do not do this in Canada and most civilised Countries. Granted there will be some who will not listen, and those who do not must be dealt with so severely that others may think twice before doing it to others.

To hope that this will go away after a few generations is wishful thinking.  Practices get passed on from one generation to the next.  I agree with Barry that what is acceptable in this country has to be taught at the time or before their arrival. I would carry it a step further and make multicultural community leaders responsible for educating their new arrivals, including their sponsors.  We do have a system in place for this already. 

And a very underutilized system judging from past atrocities. those in the next generation who decide to assimilate into the Canadian Culture may end up putting their own lives at risk from a unbending religious community, especially if they are women.  Look at Europe who have two generations already under their belt, nothing has changed judging from the current unrest and riots, not to mention terrorist bombings.

It sounds like this should be dealt with on arrival then, so as not to pass on the practice of these illegal activities. It sounds like they proliferate this crime in every country they go. It is just not right.

I agree.  If we are unable to protect women's rights in Canada, how can we expect to control it in Afghanistan.

I once drove some foreign nationals, businessmen and engineers from a Muslim country, with their American counterpart to a hotel.

On the way, the American kept asking them about "honor killings" in their home country. Unbelievably, they denied that honor killings took place.

After letting them off, the American and I talked about the denial we had just witnessed.

The second denial is the one done by politically correct authorities who act as if there is no problem, and, worse, that to think that there is a problem is to be racist, or prejudiced, when there really is a problem and a very big one.

Germaine Greer, author of The Female Eunuch, one of the more interesting books about women's liberation to come out in the '70s, now goes around and tells Westerners that we have no right to oppose clitorectomies or woman wearing burkhas.

Having also lived in a country where women are not considered equal to men, and now living in Canada, I have seen both sides of this argument. But I do agree that if you move somewhere to start a new life, then it's perfectly acceptable to undertake the customs of your new country and leave the ones that are breaking the law in your new country behind you. I would not move back to where I used to live and expect to be treated the same as I do in Canada, as that is not their custom and I would respect that.

too many "red-necks" in Canada!

Hey J2B, I resemble that Remark!

It is true that many men abuse women in Canada. And that we know is contrary to our laws. As long as these laws are abided by all we stand a chance to control that violence.

But if some Canadians due to their religion have to read books (called sacred our holy) where they are instructed the contrary (i.e. beat them wife), guess what !

Immigrants, refugees and people with visas enter Canada at a rate close to 10,000 per week (Jason Kenney, Feb. 2009), the highest rate in the world. If Canadians want to keep their country a safe place to live they must make sure that these newcomers know about the laws of their country.

And if any religion related books teach something that is contrary to our laws, then these books should be banned.

Normal 0

Paschen?  I understand that you grew up in a Islamic country? Would you mind telling us which one?

The trend of radicalism or fundamentalism as you put it, maybe evident in many different nations. However to compare Christianity with Islamism is extremely poor taste and shows your lack of understanding. Islam teaches terrorism where as Christ did not. Extremity in Christianity is to show love to your enemies or to turn the other cheek. Extremity in Islam is to fight and kill all who oppose Islam period until they are subdued into submission. A martyr of Christianity is one who defends another person regardless of their faith, one who stands in front of a bullet intended for another and not ask what faith they are first. A martyr of Islam is one who kills as many infidels as possible for his god Allah, which is by the way, not the God of Israel. Now I know with your simple mind you will say that my standard of Christ did not apply with the likes of the crusades, which I will agree with you, for no where did our Lord say to kill someone who disagrees with your faith let alone kill 200 people and destroy over half a million dollars worth of Church property because of a cartoon. Besides that Paschen the persecution of Christians in every Islamic society around the world today demonstrates the hatred that Muslims have for infidels. Yet Canada opens its heart to Muslims and Islam and we do not see Christians persecuting Muslims in Canada.

Mark Harding

Canada

Thanks for the comments Mark, by the way Mohamed never taught violence either, but Islamic Nutjobs did when they interspersed Mohameds teachings with their own spin on what Islam should be,guaranteed if Mohamed were alive today, he would singlehandedly strangle the crap out of each and every Islamic Cleric for besmirching his teachings, cause violence was not one of them.