Obama Amends Executive Order 12425, US under authority INTERPOL

by Rhonda J Mangus | December 27, 2009 at 06:56 pm
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U.S. President Barack Obama recently signed an Executive Order -- Amending Executive Order 12425, granting INTERPOL a new level of full diplomatic immunity. The question, "What, exactly does this mean?"



Last Thursday, December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order "Amending Executive Order 12425." It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.

By removing language from President Reagan's 1983 Executive Order 12425, this international law enforcement body now operates - now operates - on American soil beyond the reach of our own top law enforcement arm, the FBI, and is immune from Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

What, exactly does this mean?  It means that INTERPOL now has the full authority to conduct investigations and other law enforcement activities on U.S. soil, with full immunity from U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act and with complete independence from oversight from the FBI.

In short, a global law enforcement entity now has full law-enforcement authority in the U.S. without any check on its power afforded by U.S. law and U.S. law enforcement agencies.


Andy McCarthy at National Review asks Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?



Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

At least one answer to these questions is very clear.  A coup is underway in the United States of America, the goal of which is to establish complete, unquestioned authority over the citizens--a 'fundamental change' to the United States where citizens have no legal recourse against an authoritarian central government.


The United States National Central Bureau (USNCB), a component of the U.S. Department of Justice, is the central point of contact for all INTERPOL matters in the United States, including:


[S]ecure communications with police authorities in INTERPOL’s 187 member countries and access to INTERPOL’s various databases containing information on wanted persons, terrorists, missing persons, stolen and lost passports and travel documents, stolen vehicles, and other law enforcement information. On a daily basis, the USNCB coordinates and transmits requests for criminal investigative and humanitarian assistance between American federal, state and local law enforcement authorities and their foreign counterparts.

Additional recommended reading: Obama Gives Immunity to Interpol: What Are The Facts?

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snuffysmith

Andy McCarthy asks the right question. Why does the US need Interpol assistance in surveilling US citizens and guests on US soil in the first place.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Good questions!:) Thank you, snuffysmith. Another question, "Where is mainstream media (MSM) reporting on this matter?"




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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

I hope you all realize that now the FBI can hide archives with Interpol to avoid the Freedom of Information Act.  At least I think that is what this boils down to.  Interesting to say the least.

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hidflect

You think of all the angles ACP! Well done, that would certainly provide the merit of the argument as to why the Feds wouldn't raise a whimper in protest. Working in corporations I see that the real evil lies in the mundane application of bureaucratic policy and the not so mundane consequences. I think Interpol is a fine organisation but its nothing to lose your sovereignty over... There are no laws without accountability but if you can't find any documentation then the point is moot.

Aside - I was quite a fan of Alex Jones for a while but I felt he went a bit off the rails more recently. However, it's when issues like this arise that I'm glad a (slightly paranoid) bulldog like him is around.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

The General Secretariat in Lyon, France, is operational 24 hours a day, seven days a week, providing a central contact point for the National Central Bureau (NCB) in every member country for assistance or information on cross-border investigations.

All NCBs are connected to each other and the General Secretariat through I-24/7, INTERPOL’s secure global police communications system, which also enables law enforcement officers to directly check a range of vital police databases.

INTERPOL uses a system of colour-coded international notices to locate, arrest or provide warnings about fugitives and other criminals. In 2007 alone, co-operation between INTERPOL’s member countries led to more than 5,200 arrests across the globe.


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Rhonda J Mangus

Thanks for the additional information, ACP (and for the rec). There is definitely something behind President Obama's amendment --

Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

Where are the voices of Congress, law enforcement, the media, and the American people?





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Rhonda J Mangus

Thanks, Roy! Some interesting conclusions:


In light of what we know and can observe, it is our logical conclusion that President Obama's Executive Order amending President Ronald Reagans' 1983 EO 12425 and placing INTERPOL above the United States Constitution and beyond the legal reach of our own top law enforcement is a precursor to more damaging moves.

The pre-requisite conditions regarding the Iraq withdrawal and the Guantanamo Bay terrorist detention facility closure will continue their course. meanwhile, the next move from President Obama is likely an attempt to dissolve the agreements made between President Bush and other states preventing them from turning over American military forces to the ICC (via INTERPOL) for war crimes or any other prosecutions.

When the paths on the road map converge - Iraq withdrawal, Guantánamo closure, perceived American image improved internationally, and an empowered INTERPOL in the United States - it is probable that President Barack Obama will once again make America a signatory to the International Criminal Court. It will be a move that surrenders American sovereignty to an international body whose INTERPOL enforcement arm has already been elevated above the Constitution and American domestic law enforcement.

For an added and disturbing wrinkle, INTERPOL's central operations office in the United States is within our own Justice Department offices. They are American law enforcement officers working under the aegis of INTERPOL within our own Justice Department. That they now operate with full diplomatic immunity and with "inviolable archives" from within our own buildings should send red flags soaring into the clouds.

This is the disturbing context for President Obama's quiet release of an amended Executive Order 12425. American sovereignty hangs in the balance if these actions are not prevented through public outcry and political pressure. Some Americans are paying attention, as can be seen from some of the earliest recognitions of this troubling development here, here and here. But the discussion must extend well beyond the Internet and social media.

Ultimately, a detailed verbal explanation is due the American public from the President of the United States detailing why an international law enforcement arm assisting a court we are not a signatory to has been elevated above our Constitution upon our soil.

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Uwe Paschen

Does INTERPOL have such immunity in any other country? If so, why? There has to be an explanation given for this new order.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Therein lies the problem Paschen, it would appear that this was done leading up to the holiday period and hopefully unnoticed.  Why?

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke


INTERPOL Ottawa is managed by the RCMP and is comprised of RCMP regular and civilian members, public service employees and seconded police officers from other Canadian police agencies. Current Canadian police partners include Halifax Regional Police, Sûreté du Québec, Ontario Provincial Police and the Service de Police de la Ville de Montréal. Canadian law enforcement agencies interested in a secondment with INTERPOL Ottawa, should contact the organization directly.

INTERPOL Ottawa is divided into the following four main areas:

  • Operations Center
    The Operations Center acts as Canada's front-line responder for Canadian police investigators and government departments requiring international assistance in criminal matters. The Center is responsible for receiving, evaluating and efficiently processing all requests for assistance from INTERPOL member countries.

  • Crime Unit
    The INTERPOL Crime Unit coordinates and provides assistance in pursuing major international criminal investigations. The Unit offers timely information to police investigators on legislation surrounding criminal investigations and on country requirements for pre-extradition requests. The Unit can also coordinate and provide assistance in locating, deporting and extraditing foreign fugitives in Canada and Canadian fugitives abroad.


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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Although not stated here, INTERPOL USA is managed by the Department of Justice and presumably reports to the Attorney General.

The Interpol-United States National Central Bureau (USNCB) serves as the United States' representative to INTERPOL, the International Criminal Police Organization. Each of the 187 INTERPOL member countries establishes a National Central Bureau (NCB) to serve as the central point of contact for its law enforcement authorities to communicate with their counterparts in other INTERPOL member countries.  Each NCB works with the police authorities in its country to transmit, respond to, and execute requests for assistance in criminal investigations and police matters to and from other countries’ NCBs via the INTERPOL communications network.

The USNCB is the central point of contact for all INTERPOL matters in the United States, and coordinates and transmits requests for investigative and humanitarian assistance between foreign police authorities and U.S. law enforcement authorities at all levels, from the small town police department to the large federal agencies.  On a daily basis, the USNCB transmits thousands of messages about wanted fugitives, kidnapped children, terrorism, illegal drug trafficking, and other criminal activities to assist police investigations around the world.


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Rhonda J Mangus

Thanks again for the additional information, ACP!

A 'hands-off' INTERPOL seemingly benefits Obama according to this conclusion:


I will somewhat agree with ThreatsWatch’s Steve Schippert that this could conceivably extend to INTERPOL arrest of Americans on our soil. But if SCOTUS could conjure up Constitutional rights for those who were captured and held on foreign soils, nor were subjects of extradition, it’s going to be extremely tough for them to figure out a way to deny Constitutional rights to an American citizen, arrested on US soil by an int’l police organization.

SCOTUS examination is always a case by case examination of specific events as they relate to law. But INTERPOLs increased immunities extend to protecting them and *their* assets from search and seizures. It does not not allow them to do unConstitutional search and seizures upon American citizens solo. The stroke of an EO pen cannot usurp that unmistaken able Constitutional right… at least as it stands today.

But Schippert may have lead me to the Obama benefits as a motive when he elaborates on Obama’s lukewarm opines on the Int’l Criminal Court. Clinton signed us on, Bush removed us. Obama’s been hesitant, saying it’s “premature”. Schippert makes a good case for Obama’s delays not being related to sovereignty concerns, but “image”… a subject that this arrogant WH occupant remains consumed with daily.

Even if Obama did sign the Rome Statute, ratification by Congress is still required to cement that relationship as legal and prosecutable to the fullest treaty extent. Obama is fast running out of charisma chips with the public. His best chance for any successful ratification would be with/through the current Congress… who’s make up after 2010 is in no way guaranteed to be as acquiescent to his demands.

I also have to assume that Obama’s calculated move is not meant to be an alternative supporting intel arm of the now-defunct “war on terror”. In fact, it makes such info more removed, and more difficult to use in a military tribunal. Thus I chip away at the more obvious “no gain” motives.

But there are two possible motives gleaned after reading Curtis Bradley’s May 2002 article in The American Society of Int’l Law. This was shortly after the Bush admin had announced it’s intent not to ratify the ICC treaty. The below paragraph is what set my mind a’whirl:


Continued here


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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

I still say the benefit is that fact that they can now move files over to INTERPOL within the Justice Department.  Their immunity amounts to protecting INTERPOL from search and seizure of their assets.  While they can not search and seize US citizens, they can easily refer them to the FBI, even if their information was illegally obtained.

I am not a lawyer, but once the FBI has the facts in hand they can get the authority of a judge to wiretap or conduct a search.  Where is a lawyer when I need him/her for advice?

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MataHarley

ACP, perhaps there are some things about INTERPOL that may add more revelations to your thoughts. They do not have arresting agents.  INTERPOL's dependent upon the cooperating NCB's in each participating nation, and all arrests for INTERPOL "red notices" must be by cooperating national/local law enforcement.  Your fears that the FBI may usurp Constitutional rights because they use INTERPOL databases for arrests is secondary.  First of all, if the FBI uses it for their arrest, it has to be within FOIA reach unless it's an arrest on behalf of an INTERPOL "red notice".  And in fact, INTERPOL does field requests for the "accused" or their representatives.  They do not, however, allow FOIA type requests for the uninvolved. Secondly I see no way to "hide" American intelligence documents within INTERPOL.  INTERPOL is a international database *sharing*.  That *sharing" does not erase the same documentation from the original source.  Thus I conclude... and yes, perhaps erroneously... that any INTERPOL data that was pumped up by FBI/CIA or other intelligence sources still remains active in those intelligence sources databases as well.  Meaning that while the INTERPOL data is now beyond FOIA, the American intelligence sources of that same info are not. I authored the conclusion that Rhonda linked above.  I firmly believe that putting INTERPOLs database beyond the reach of American FOIA's is the first step in several that Obama will use to appease the far left with charges and prosecutions of war crimes.  It will not be done thru the US federal system.  He will, like the true Alinsky Chicago mafia student he is, allow the dirty work to be done by others.  In this case, he is setting up the scene to use ICC... who is one of the few non-govt entities allowed to issue "red notice" alerts thru INTERPOL.  It's politically important for Obama to fulfill his promise, however not be seen as the motivating figure in doing so.  He's always on the "it's not my fault!" bandwagon. I have another post coming to provide the base background for my opinion... just been bogged down under the holidays etal.  But I assure you... this EO is not what it appears on the surface, and people are overestimating the powers and authority of INTERPOL.  I truly believe the subterfuge lies in the ICC, their next Review Council meeting, and Obama's reimplementation of the US as a signatory to the Rome Statute....ratified or not... and his motives for doing so.  Alinsky'ites are very patient for their "ends"... and do well in covering their tracks to disguise those ends.

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merrie

It's a silent coup done in the dark of night by the 0bama & co.

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merrie

A paragraph later, McCarthy describes Obama’s actions in the starkest of terms:

This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.

Some bloggers covering this story are noting that the law enforcement agency to which Obama has extended such extraordinary powers to has had a dismal past.

INTERPOL’s senior leadership was flush with Nazis from the late 1930s all the way into the 1970s.

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Uwe Paschen

Well, this sounds rather far fetched "merrie" Fact is that In order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries, or in any political, military, religious, or racial crimes. Its work focuses primarily on public safety, terrorismorganized crimecrimes against humanitygenocide,war crimesPiracyillicit drug production, drug traffickingweapons smuggling,human traffickingmoney launderingchild pornographywhite-collar crime,computer crimeintellectual property crime and corruption.

In 2005, the Interpol General Secretariat employed a staff of 502, representing 78 member countries. The Interpol public websi received an average of 2.2 million page visits every month. The Interpol's red notices for the year led to the arrests of 3,500 people.


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sonny1466

WHAT HAPPENED TO A GOVERMENT OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE RAISE YOURE HEAD HIGH PEOPLE SO THEY GET A CLEAN CUT

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Will Fire

Interpol cannot arrest anyone in the US. Chill.

hubpages.com/hub/Obama-Gives-Immunity-to-Interpol-What-Are-the-Facts

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Rhonda J Mangus

Thank you for reading and commenting, Will Fire. Thanks for the link too. I will be placing it at the end of this story and do encourage readers to review Obama Gives Immunity to Interpol: What Are the Facts?

Thanks again!


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Will Fire

Thanks for the link Rhonda. Too much paranoia and fear going around.

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Traveling Band

Nice link, change happens so rapidly.  They got thier foot in the door.  It will be hard to shut it now, when they alter the law on the next schemed dramatic event.

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Lip Service

Its all a lie dont believe any of it. 

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doctorhugo

Some comment here are very naive. The basic fact is that THIS PRESIDENT just authorized an 'external police entity' full access to this country by an order of the Executive Branch. That order exempts them from any oversight by this government. HE, OUR OWN RESIDENT EVIL, JUST SHREDDED THE CONSTITUTION! Congress has been circumvented in this matter by Executive Order and should adamantly contest this and challenge the constitutional authority for such. Therein lies the rub. Congress had completely failed to restrain abuses of overreaching authority by this President, so one might anticipate that they'll continue sitting on their enabling hands and whistling in the dark. For those of us who understand that the puppet Obama is the tool of the globalists this EO should come as no surprise. Obama is all about remaking America fundamentally and has no respect for it's Constitution and founding values. He has repeatedly stated that. The only hope is that many of the "useful fools" who elected him, will by Election Day 2010 realize that they erred in judgement and will join us to throw all the bums out; install a newbie congress of mixed political content and proceed upon the path of a Bill of Impeachment to excise the usurper. The valid charges that rise to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors" are many and almost all involve his end-runs around congress in designating "inferior officers" who do his bidding issuing regulations/edicts that have the full force of law. Congress has neglected it's constitutional responsibility to the point of taking America to the edge of anarchy.

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Ross Wolf

President Obama’s Executive Order EO 12425 put INTERPOL above the United States Constitution, beyond the legal reach of our own top law enforcement. Why has Obama allowed foreign law enforcement to operate in the U.S. free of Constitutional safeguards that protected Americans, until now? Obama’s Executive Order authorized INTERPOL to act within the United States without being subject to 4th Amendment Search and Seizure.” That appears Key: Obama’s executive order will allow U.S. police to circumvent the Fourth Amendment by working with INTERPOL in criminal and Civil investigations e.g., ;since the Patriot Act passed, several European Countries entered into Asset Forfeiture Sharing Agreements with the U.S. In 2008 Telecoms were granted government immunity after they helped U.S. Government spy on millions of Americans’ electronic communications. U.S. Government never disclosed what happened to NSA’s millions of warrant-less collected emails, faxes and phone call information that belong to U.S. Citizens? Neither Congress nor the courts—determined what NSA electronic surveillance could be used by police or introduced into court by U.S. Government. Just prior to 9-11 Rep. Henry Hyde’s bill HR 1658 passed, the “Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 2000” and effectively eliminated the “statue of limitations” for Government Civil Asset Forfeiture. The statute now runs five years from when police allege they “learned” that an asset became subject to forfeiture. With such a weak statute of limitations and the low standard of civil proof needed for government to forfeit property “A preponderance of Evidence”, it is problematic INTERPOL working with U.S. law enforcement and private government contractors will want access to telecom/NSA and other government wiretaps perhaps illegal, to secure evidence to arrest Americans and or civilly forfeit their homes, inheritances and businesses under Title 18USC and other laws. Thanks to Obama, U.S. Police can now use INTERPOL to circumvent the Fourth Amendment to share in assets seized from Americans.

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Bosshog

divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/807-fulford-interview-exclusiveIn this articles opinion INTERPOL was granted this power because of the lien that was put on the USA in the sum of 47 trillion dollars (Mainly the chinese) because of the biggest scam of the century - the real estate bundles, bad mortgages, insured, uninsured, yada yada. Their ploy to dupe the world into buying American real estate insured by AIG, papers disappeared through MERS system all set up by this scum banks, the federal reserve.It goes into further detail and talks about that some of the world powers are sick of the BUSH-CIA/ROCKERFELLER faction and want to get them out of power... but they won't go with out a fight.

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Just an Engineer

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Our first apartment was in Astoria, Queens. It so happened that one of our countrymen was called Vasil Spotinov, he was tall, pale, blond haired, had blue eyes, and was in his 60s. He introduced himself as a painter, who lived in New York for about 30 years and didn’t succeed as a painter. Before he was a professor, talented with great hopes for future. Europe was too small for his ambitions. He was modestly dressed, and had modest behavior. He always had a Russian news paper in his hand, always was saying he doesn’t speak English well, also was very short with our native language, which was not suspicious but was a little bit surprising, while cursing the American government for his problems. He did not like to speak in English, but was stating that it is very difficult for him, for example, he was calling Mayor Gullianini as a major, etc etc. People around him were sorry for him, many times, he was staying in some corner, giving fliers to people for 5$ per hour, as a part-time job, was looking very humbled, and poor, many times I was advising him to work as a driver, which is more beneficial, but he insisted he cannot drive at all, he said there is no future before him in America forever. That made it look like he was any one of us, all indegineous immigrants full with hopes. Mostly for his bad luck, we often spoke with him about their difficulties. Also everyone asked him for advice and trusted him as a more experienced average person. We gathered sometimes in a small café so we could see each other and share our problems and speak our native language. Spotinov was always there at our meetings, he wouldn’t say anything most of the time, and only listened carefully, but he was insisting that we should come at this coffee shop every day at a specific time. He never drank, or ate in this café. We thought he had material difficulties, and many times we offered to pay the tab, but he always refused. Life in the US was apparently much more different then we had assumed, nothing like our Europe, in Europe what you hear is what you get, in America the talk was cheep. At times we felt like we have come from another planet. We wondered how this is possible, for everything to be so different, and small things to rise like a mountain before us, we asked him where to buy cheese, as well as other of our foods, he never gave us a useful answer, about how to live cheaply, with the food that we like, in fact he never helped for anyone, but he always asked a lot of questions, and was very experienced in this. But we wanted success and adapted to the new lifestyle. Many other people from our country weren’t able to adapt to the high standards of New York, and moved to Chicago, where there was more europeans. Our family was alone in the big city, and so was Vasil Spotinov. The battle for survival kept becoming harder and we didn’t have time for contact with anyone for more then 5 minutes. Work and hope for a few more hours of sleep was our life, if you could call it that. Meanwhile Spotinov seemed stranger, and we were unable to explain his behavior. We saw him following us, even in bad weather, while he was trying to hide as much as he could. His clothes were the same kind every time. He even wore a jacket in the hottest weather. A couple of times we saw him at our door, trying to listen to our conversations. My wife couldn’t find any job, I tried to get a drivers license, however, everything I tried went badly, letters disappeared in strange ways, and about 6 months passed, in a circle, for very small things. We thought this is a part of the system, but later found there is someone, who was always after us, stealing our letters, taping our phones, and everywhere we applied for a job, we never got an answer. Even when I applied to work at the new renovation of jfk airport site, the English company, in charge, returned my resume back, saying, with an argument, they will even not consider it. We wondered how being legally here engineers with a long experience, how is that possible to happen, we didn’t know the reason. One day we saw him getting out of a luxurious car, and we saw that the general consul of our country personally took him, with his diplomatic car, to the miserable apartment where he used to live, opened the door, bounced to Him and shaked his hand, gave him a box with some DVD, for computer, was an accident that this night, I went into the site of my native country government, and we saw the latest news, that our government, provided that they at the consulate office in New York, all docies of the people of our country to their collegues, so the truth started flowing up. Vasil Spotinov was dressed in a very expensive blue costume, perfectly fit on him, and he was looking like a diplomat or movie star, soon after that we saw him again, on the street, dressed with rags. We were surprised and out of curiosity we began to pay attention more carefully at his behavior. We are engineers and have good, logical thinking. This is how one day we found out the truth about him. General Spotinov –chief of Interpol for USA and Canada. Probably Spotinov is not his real name and about his nationality – who knows? We believe he is born in United Kingdom, passed university classes on our language, and was ordered to control all Europeans in the USA. Some of his agents were speaking two, three languages each, so he covered most of the spoken languages in Europe, we found, after that, that he got the docies free, he was processing and selling them for money, to another intelligence. His interest was, any person here, to be sold for more money, he was trying to expose us setting up provocation, 24/7, throwing words and recording the answers, plenty of our countrymen, were already recruited, and were serving him, he never was alone in fact. During the past years he had followed our small meeting which he created at the coffee shop, and searched for criminals, and attempting to create them it was a matter of a prupose dedication and mantality. Many times he provoked people with problems to break the law and they were arrested soon after. He used their mistakes to make a great reputation for himself in Interpol transferred Interpol from a crime prevention organization, largely advertised, into a torturous repressive well paid activities, and political orders, because of the special status of Interpol, nobody could ask him a question, but the police and FBI must serve by his request without questions, so happens, he was the king of New York. Unfortunately he succeeded. He took care to prevent the well being of everybody from our country, including children. Soon after the first chemical attack on me, I was accepted in a hospital, with severely damaged eyes, I reported to the police two controlling police officers talked with me, and told me to keep my medical results. Soon after that, I got they were fired from the police. He treated the School’s Principals with Interpol and many children were expelled from their Schools, my son, minor, at 7th grade, in the middle of the year, was expelled from St. Demetrious school, from the principle, saying that he doesn’t owe me any explanation, his deputy just told me under secret that they are ordered to do so and that they cant do anything, from a very high place, I asked who is it, they said they cant tell me, so my son went into Evangel Christian school, he was well accepted, but two months before finishing the school he was expelled again, police and FBI checked him for unknown terrorism charges, soon after, they left and said case is over, but the principle said, anyways, he must expel him, and this is the only thing he can do, everything which we talked on the phone was immediately blocked with negative answers from an unknown source, plenty of anonymous calls we calling from telephones such as 111-111-1111, some messages we left asking us, do we know the death rate of children for the last year, and so on, and this happened, because we got, on the top of all, Vasil Spotinov was producing toxic substances, and he was selling them all over the world, people working for him, were looking average, but were carrying pistols, hidden in their clothes, and were speaking with strong british accents, often traveled to London with some samples (two weeks before so called london airplanes, i saw on the clothes of one of his workers the same red powder, then shown on tv as a liquid explosive, and then recognized it on the tv, and extreme security measures posted), and had apartments at East London. He used the name of Interpol to resolve his personal ambitions. He assured his bosses that he is fighting with criminals. His bank accounts became bigger and now he is a millionaire. This is a sad story. Spotinov hadn’t understood for his entire life that people make mistakes, but it doesn’t make them criminals. It is more important to help then to punish people who have made mistakes. His work had apparently destroyed his ability to see good in people, for him they were all criminals; his task was to catch them. He was a hero in the eyes of Interpol. Millionaire with money soaked with peoples misery. For our family this was a very important and unfortunate find, we thought of him as a friend before. We stopped meeting with him, moved to a new apartment, and broke contact with him, for us he wasn’t a hero, he had lost his humanity. He had turned into a brilliant machine who no one wanted to speak with……   Later we found He never stopped of stalking us using local police and any other under His power.,His agents and Patriots Helpers for money per hour and experimented and used planty of poisons ,substances and gases using people and cars.We reported many times ti police ,never answered..His slogan was and remain same-All are a criminals is just a matter of a time for Him to prove it , no matter who a poper a pope or a President as we all in between were in massive pressure to investigate and stalk us 24/7 and continue to be so..Dis is what You can find is true for You too.,havind telephone recorded ,car locator inside and on Your way anywhere ,a people at many corners ,to prove its mania we are bad ,bad ,bad.and He is god.   A month ago he ordered and I was fired with no reason was working in a low position as field inspector,now I now is preparing same for my wife.Do you understand now why normal people call such a idiots just and only Pigs.   All facts reported by me here are easy to prove -reg at NYPD ,arrests etc qourt ,all only say I will post em all. To see who is mentally ill at Usa.

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Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Adolf_Hitler.png -I will prove it , all You are  all  criminals ,is just a matter of a time.   General Spotinov   More then 10 years ago, my family won a Green card from the lottery and came to the United States, and settled in New York. Our first apartment was in Astoria, Queens. It so happened that one of our countrymen was called Vasil Spotinov, he was tall, pale, blond haired, had blue eyes, and was in his 60s. He introduced himself as a painter, who lived in New York for about 30 years and didn’t succeed as a painter. Before he was a professor, talented with great hopes for future. Europe was too small for his ambitions. He was modestly dressed, and had modest behavior. He always had a Russian news paper in his hand, always was saying he doesn’t speak English well, also was very short with our native language, which was not suspicious but was a little bit surprising, while cursing the American government for his problems. He did not like to speak in English, but was stating that it is very difficult for him, for example, he was calling Mayor Gullianini as a major, etc etc. People around him were sorry for him, many times, he was staying in some corner, giving fliers to people for 5$ per hour, as a part-time job, was looking very humbled, and poor, many times I was advising him to work as a driver, which is more beneficial, but he insisted he cannot drive at all, he said there is no future before him in America forever. That made it look like he was any one of us, all indegineous immigrants full with hopes. Mostly for his bad luck, we often spoke with him about their difficulties. Also everyone asked him for advice and trusted him as a more experienced average person. We gathered sometimes in a small café so we could see each other and share our problems and speak our native language. Spotinov was always there at our meetings, he wouldn’t say anything most of the time, and only listened carefully, but he was insisting that we should come at this coffee shop every day at a specific time. He never drank, or ate in this café. We thought he had material difficulties, and many times we offered to pay the tab, but he always refused. Life in the US was apparently much more different then we had assumed, nothing like our Europe, in Europe what you hear is what you get, in America the talk was cheep. At times we felt like we have come from another planet. We wondered how this is possible, for everything to be so different, and small things to rise like a mountain before us, we asked him where to buy cheese, as well as other of our foods, he never gave us a useful answer, about how to live cheaply, with the food that we like, in fact he never helped for anyone, but he always asked a lot of questions, and was very experienced in this. But we wanted success and adapted to the new lifestyle. Many other people from our country weren’t able to adapt to the high standards of New York, and moved to Chicago, where there was more europeans. Our family was alone in the big city, and so was Vasil Spotinov. The battle for survival kept becoming harder and we didn’t have time for contact with anyone for more then 5 minutes. Work and hope for a few more hours of sleep was our life, if you could call it that. Meanwhile Spotinov seemed stranger, and we were unable to explain his behavior. We saw him following us, even in bad weather, while he was trying to hide as much as he could. His clothes were the same kind every time. He even wore a jacket in the hottest weather. A couple of times we saw him at our door, trying to listen to our conversations. My wife couldn’t find any job, I tried to get a drivers license, however, everything I tried went badly, letters disappeared in strange ways, and about 6 months passed, in a circle, for very small things. We thought this is a part of the system, but later found there is someone, who was always after us, stealing our letters, taping our phones, and everywhere we applied for a job, we never got an answer. Even when I applied to work at the new renovation of jfk airport site, the English company, in charge, returned my resume back, saying, with an argument, they will even not consider it. We wondered how being legally here engineers with a long experience, how is that possible to happen, we didn’t know the reason. One day we saw him getting out of a luxurious car, and we saw that the general consul of our country personally took him, with his diplomatic car, to the miserable apartment where he used to live, opened the door, bounced to Him and shaked his hand, gave him a box with some DVD, for computer, was an accident that this night, I went into the site of my native country government, and we saw the latest news, that our government, provided that they at the consulate office in New York, all docies of the people of our country to their collegues, so the truth started flowing up. Vasil Spotinov was dressed in a very expensive blue costume, perfectly fit on him, and he was looking like a diplomat or movie star, soon after that we saw him again, on the street, dressed with rags. We were surprised and out of curiosity we began to pay attention more carefully at his behavior. We are engineers and have good, logical thinking. This is how one day we found out the truth about him. General Spotinov –chief of Interpol for USA and Canada. Probably Spotinov is not his real name and about his nationality – who knows? We believe he is born in United Kingdom, passed university classes on our language, and was ordered to control all Europeans in the USA. Some of his agents were speaking two, three languages each, so he covered most of the spoken languages in Europe, we found, after that, that he got the docies free, he was processing and selling them for money, to another intelligence. His interest was, any person here, to be sold for more money, he was trying to expose us setting up provocation, 24/7, throwing words and recording the answers, plenty of our countrymen, were already recruited, and were serving him, he never was alone in fact. During the past years he had followed our small meeting which he created at the coffee shop, and searched for criminals, and attempting to create them it was a matter of a prupose dedication and mantality. Many times he provoked people with problems to break the law and they were arrested soon after. He used their mistakes to make a great reputation for himself in Interpol transferred Interpol from a crime prevention organization, largely advertised, into a torturous repressive well paid activities, and political orders, because of the special status of Interpol, nobody could ask him a question, but the police and FBI must serve by his request without questions, so happens, he was the king of New York. Unfortunately he succeeded. He took care to prevent the well being of everybody from our country, including children. Soon after the first chemical attack on me, I was accepted in a hospital, with severely damaged eyes, I reported to the police two controlling police officers talked with me, and told me to keep my medical results. Soon after that, I got they were fired from the police. He treated the School’s Principals with Interpol and many children were expelled from their Schools, my son, minor, at 7th grade, in the middle of the year, was expelled from St. Demetrious school, from the principle, saying that he doesn’t owe me any explanation, his deputy just told me under secret that they are ordered to do so and that they cant do anything, from a very high place, I asked who is it, they said they cant tell me, so my son went into Evangel Christian school, he was well accepted, but two months before finishing the school he was expelled again, police and FBI checked him for unknown terrorism charges, soon after, they left and said case is over, but the principle said, anyways, he must expel him, and this is the only thing he can do, everything which we talked on the phone was immediately blocked with negative answers from an unknown source, plenty of anonymous calls we calling from telephones such as 111-111-1111, some messages we left asking us, do we know the death rate of children for the last year, and so on, and this happened, because we got, on the top of all, Vasil Spotinov was producing toxic substances, and he was selling them all over the world, people working for him, were looking average, but were carrying pistols, hidden in their clothes, and were speaking with strong british accents, often traveled to London with some samples (two weeks before so called london airplanes, i saw on the clothes of one of his workers the same red powder, then shown on tv as a liquid explosive, and then recognized it on the tv, and extreme security measures posted), and had apartments at East London. He used the name of Interpol to resolve his personal ambitions. He assured his bosses that he is fighting with criminals. His bank accounts became bigger and now he is a millionaire. This is a sad story. Spotinov hadn’t understood for his entire life that people make mistakes, but it doesn’t make them criminals. It is more important to help then to punish people who have made mistakes. His work had apparently destroyed his ability to see good in people, for him they were all criminals; his task was to catch them. He was a hero in the eyes of Interpol. Millionaire with money soaked with peoples misery. For our family this was a very important and unfortunate find, we thought of him as a friend before. We stopped meeting with him, moved to a new apartment, and broke contact with him, for us he wasn’t a hero, he had lost his humanity. He had turned into a brilliant machine who no one wanted to speak with……   Later we found He never stopped of stalking us using local police and any other under His power.,His agents and Patriots Helpers for money per hour and experimented and used planty of poisons ,substances and gases using people and cars.We reported many times ti police ,never answered..His slogan was and remain same-All are a criminals is just a matter of a time for Him to prove it , no matter who a poper a pope or a President as we all in between were in massive pressure to investigate and stalk us 24/7 and continue to be so..Dis is what You can find is true for You too.,havind telephone recorded ,car locator inside and on Your way anywhere ,a people at many corners ,to prove its mania we are bad ,bad ,bad.and He is god.   A month ago he ordered and I was fired with no reason was working in a low position as field inspector,now I now is preparing same for my wife.Do you understand now why normal people call such a idiots just and only Pigs.   All facts reported by me here are easy to prove -reg at NYPD ,arrests etc qourt ,all only say I will post em all. To see who is mentally ill at Usa.

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Interpol is Terrorist agency number One at World ,is a fact I can prove.

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Interpol is Terrorist agency number One at World ,is a fact I can prove.

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