Obama/Biden Making a Strategic Mistake?

by moonwolf | September 9, 2008 at 10:02 am | 599 views | 14 comments | 56 recommendations

Barrack Obama has made it clear to his team and the American people that he will take the high road during this contentious Presidential contest.  He has set the bar for honesty and integrity of his troops very high and is thus repudiating the Rovian/Republican tactics of lies told over lies compounding lies and yet, the evidence after the last eight years seems very clear that strategy, though immoral and underhanded has worked very effectively to maintain the neocon/GOP domination over the US political system.

As a man of principle he does not believe that the end justifies the means, and though he attacks the policies and pronunciations of McCain, Pallin and the GOP he refuses to take up the personal attacks on the character of his opponents, a fundamental tactic which has proved so successful for the Republicans when smearing and undermining the credibility of their opponents during the last nine years.

Could this unwillingness to use methods of such an intrinsically unethical nature, which have proved so successful for the Republicans, actually work against the Obama/Biden camp and put the potential success of their campaign at risk?  If stooping to the base level of the Republicans in his conduct during this election would improve his chances of attaining the office of the President should he change tactics, and if he and the Democrats do so what impact will it have on Obama and his party should he attain the Presidency?

This article also brings up darker and deeper questions about the health of a "democratic" system which has institutionalized and indeed elevated deceit and immorality to the pinnacle of electoral behavior as the successful strategy for gaining power, and the inevitable consequences of such a policy of debasement on the system itself, and for the citizens of the USA and the world at large.

After watching Obama and Biden on the Sunday morning shows, it is clear they have the wrong message, one that typically loses American elections. If this is their TV message, McCain and Palin will win the national debates and likely go on to victory.

This is Obama's second big strategic message mistake -- the first was stopping independent groups from spending tens of millions of dollars earlier this summer educating the American public on how John McCain is just another flip-flopping, lying, Washington politician surrounded by lobbyists without the temperament to be president.

Obama's basic message is that John McCain is a good person who has same policy positions as George Bush. Biden's basic message is that Sarah Palin is a good and "smart, smart, smart, smart, smart" and "tough, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough" [I may have miscounted] woman who has the same policy positions is George Bush.

The message itself is flawed on multiple levels. In particular, because it simply isn't true, it gives the GOP a free pass to keep lying over and over again. Second, it is weak and wonkish (yes, I know that is redundant, but Obama apparently doesn't), and the public naturally prefers tough, tough, tough and attacking.

Neither McCain nor Palin are "good people" as most Americans use the term. They are serial liars who have invented phony positive stories about themselves and phony negative ones about Obama. See for instance "In His Big Speech, McCain's 10 Energy Lies Top Palin's 4 Energy Lies" and "Palin Repeats GOP's Big Energy Lie -- Plus Four Other Energy Lies, Too" and "Lies, Damn Lies, and the McCain Campaign."

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Emilio Lizardo
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at 11:10 on September 9th, 2008

moonwolf, no suprises here. It's politics.

Daniel Neun
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at 12:03 on September 9th, 2008

Ok, my guess: Obama and Biden will go down in the next months, then, all over sudden, as a proof of the American Dream, Obama turns the polls, everybody´s happy, he wins, everybody´s dreaming, Fantasy World is skyrocketing, he gets into office and then the same old shit begins again but even worse.

Anyway: hang on, Moonwolf.

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moonwolf

Hey Daniel,

You could very possibly be right.  I keep plugging away regardless just trying to get people to pay attention to the tough and complex issues and not the faces.

Thanks Emilio and Daniel!


Karen Hatter
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at 12:16 on September 9th, 2008

Moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

jadeb
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at 14:38 on September 9th, 2008

I think it's a very real risk that taking the high road could cost them the election. I hope not, but it could happen.

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at 14:48 on September 9th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Very interesting piece.

Rhonda J Mangus
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at 15:20 on September 9th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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master_jim2008

It's not so much whether or not Obama changes is tactics and goes negative that bothers me.

Does anyone remember when George and Jeb Bush were on a jet and a reporter asked them whether or not they felt confident they'd take (I don't remember if it was Florida or Ohio) and they both had an evil look in their eye, a look of total confidence that said, 'Yeah, we'll win because the fix is in.' and they answered, Yes, they're that confident. Well as we all know the fix WAS in for Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. Well kiddies, guess who's still in office and can still fix elections? Yeah, that's right, the Bush dynasty. They can fix any election they want, whether it be an American election or some other country. So whether or not Obama starts getting nasty or not is immaterial. Bush can swing the election for McCain in any case, and probably will. Just because Bush won't be an elected offical, doesn't mean we've heard the last of the Bush crooks. Especially if McBush gets elected.

Did you know we have 17+ permanent, multi-million dollar bases built in Iraq? Do you really think Bush wants to lose those to Obama? Don't you think one reason McCain wants in is to help keep those bases and our presense in Iraq for the next century?

There is no reason whatsoever as to why this race is neck and neck. EVERYONE, including many republicans know that Bush is/has failed us terribly. Right now the polls should show Obama ahead by 70+ points at least. But do they show that? No! So it even makes me wonder if the polls are rigged. Surely there can't be that many Americans ready to throw us down the toilet again for 8 more years.


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Emilio Lizardo

We need UN observers !

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at 17:23 on September 9th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Heritage
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at 17:49 on September 9th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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djermano

Put it this way folks.....Bushco and lot did not orchestrate and do 911 simply to hand everything over to Dems to undo...In fact Dems are part of the reason they did 911. Obama is just spinning his wheels. He lost Dems chance when he barely eeked by Hillary...If he can only eek by Hillary,  McCain will squash him......

Think about all the stuff that has happened...911, lies about the war, killing innocent people, torture, Guantanemo, Resignations of Rumsfeld, Gonzalez. Scooter, Libby, Rove....Bush is at an all time lowest of a President....with a military guy running as President who has seen action, has killed people personally, picks some chick in Alaska who knows nothing about the real stuff these people have done; herself being unexperienced...and you know what they are going to fix the elections and McCain will win.

The message will be.....you can't stop Republicans even at their lowest....and you can beat Democrats with it at their highest levels, given Hillary energized the party with Obama, and instead of Obama using that energy.....he popped her like a balloon....

Indeed the McCain ticket will be the next P-residents.......and don't say I didn't tell you so....

They didn't do 911 for McCain to lose.

Barry Artiste
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at 03:44 on September 10th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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at 05:35 on September 10th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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