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Obama Campaign Disabled Address Verification for Online Donors
By Albert N. Milliron, Editor Politisite.com
How does a candidate raise 700 million dollars in a recession?
What is the reason that the Obama campaign cannot verify information on donations below 200.00? Could it be that the campaign has disabled the credit card address verification feature as well as the 3 number code found the the reverse of the card? Both of these features are to prevent credit card fraud. With in the last few days, reporters have entered credit card numbers under various peoples names. The result? The Obama campaign credit card system comes back with a statement that says, "Thank you for your support".
Under present election laws, all donations are to be carefully documented as to the originator of the donation. Now the law does not require a candidate to post this information but it must keep a accurate records of every transaction, so one cannot give more then the maximum for each election cycle. Under Obama's present credit card donation system, there is no way of telling who is actually giving the donation as the Name, address, and security code are not verified. Thus the possibly of election fraud.
One can simply maximize his/her donations then go to a name that has not given the maximum amount and enter their credit card number into the system.
How does a candidate raise $650 million dollars and $150 million in one month? New evidence is emerging that the Obama camp has deliberately disabled the address verification feature for all of their credit card transactions. Normally, when you go to Amazon.com or some place and try to purchase an item, Amazon will ask for your CC# and your address, then they run a check to verify that the card# you are using matches that card’s # of record. Ace of Spades reports that credit card companies typically do not let companies disable this feature, and it can only be done deliberately:
Is there a legitimate reason to disable the AVS system? Apparently not:
Visa/MC banks hate it when merchants blow off AVS, as it increases the risk of chargebacks (which are a hassle/expense for the bank to handle). Consequently they demand a much higher discount rate to take cards with AVS-overrides.
If you think this is exaggeration, I would invite you to try it yourself, but I wouldn’t want anyone donating money to this scam artist. However, here are several testimonials of people who have tried to donate:
Frankly, its easier than I’d believe to do this. Courtesy of my (real) CC number and expiration date, the Obama campaign has just received a $19.45 donation from mister Adolf Hitler, whose occupation is “Dictator” at the company “National Socialist Party of Ger” (I got cut off). I captured screenshots to prove this.
No verification required. The listed address wasn’t even close to my real address.
Good to know that Obama is taking donations from Adolf Hitler, he truly is a post-racial candidate! What is even more frightening, is that apparently the Obama web page AVS system is also designed to take credit cards issued in foreign countries.
Republican donated Max to Obama Campaign, They didn't know it until they got their statement!
Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month — a $2300 donation to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. The Larman’s say they don’t want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they’re not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook.
They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud.
“(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this,” said Steve Larman. “It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations.”
The Larman’s don’t want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans.
“They (Chase) kept on asking me ‘are you sure you wouldn't have gone to a site in support of Obama’,” said Rachel Larman. “And I repeatedly said ‘Im voting for McCain - I would not be going to an Obama site’.”
John Galt donating to Obama. RNC files new complaint with FEC, Foreign credit cards being accepted too!
I went to the Obama campaign website and entered the following:
Name: John Galt
Address: 1957 Ayn Rand Lane
City: Galts Gulch
State: CO
Zip: 99999Then I checked the box next to $15 and entered my actual credit card number and expiration date (it didn’t ask for the 3-digit code on the back of the card) and it took me to the next page and… “Your donation has been processed. Thank you for your generous gift.”
In short, with the system set up as it is by the Obama camp, an individual could donate unlimited amounts of money by simply making up fake names and addresses. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate this fraud. This is truly scandalous.
Can one donate to McCain with out giving correct information? Not a chance!
Our reader was not yet done. He tried the experiment on the McCain site: "I tried the exact same thing at the McCain site and it didn't allow the transaction." He then repeated the experiment at the Obama site:
I went back to the Obama site and made three additional donations using the names Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Bill Ayers, all with different addresses. All the transactions went through using the same credit card. I saved screenshots of the transactions.
dunkelberg, NowPublic Contrbuter Pointed out this article- Donor Patrol: Obama’s Online Site Accepts More Fakes
To be fair to the Obama campaign, officials there have said much of their checking for fraud occurs after the transactions have already occurred. When they find something wrong, they then refund the amount.
But a New York Times analysis of campaign finance records looking for obvious anomalies in donor information quickly found more than a dozen contributors to Mr. Obama using obviously fictitious name. This was a tiny fraction of Mr. Obama’s donor pool, but it appeared from the analysis that Mr. McCain had far fewer apparent fake names among his donors.
Unlike Mr. Obama, Mr. McCain provides on his Web site a searchable database of all of his donors, including those who fall below the $200 threshold that the Federal Election Commission requires campaigns to itemize in their reports. The political blogger Marc Ambinder recently reported that searches of this database turned up seven contributions from someone named Jesus II of Las Vegas giving a total of $851 to Mr. McCain.
The Obama campaign pointed out that a search of the name “Anonymous, Anonymous” also turns up pages of contributions to the McCain campaign, including more than two dozen that exceed $200 but for some reason do not appear in F.E.C. records. It should be pointed out that campaigns are permitted to accept donations of up to $50 in cash or anonymously. There are other odd donors that appear in searches of the McCain database but fall below the $200 threshold, including “The Gun Shop” from Hood River, Oregon., who contributed $100 and “Adorable Manabat” from Winnetka, Calif., who gave $200.
In an attempt to file a counter claim, the Democratic National Committee filed the Following on October 24th-Read the Full Complaint Here
DNC Files FEC Complaint Over McCain Campaign's Missing, Excessive and Anonymous Donors
Washington, DC - The Democratic National Committee today announced that it will file a complaint with the Federal Election Commission on Monday morning to request a thorough investigation of the McCain campaign's most recent attempt to skirt campaign finance laws. According to the complaint, an analysis of the information provided by the McCain Campaign on its website shows that the campaign received 6,653 contributions that were at least $1,000 in excess of legal limit of $2,300--including one donor who contributed $56,047. The McCain Campaign website also lists 23 anonymous contributions in excess of fifty dollars, despite the legal requirement to maintain the name and address of each contributor any amount in excess of $50, and dozens of additional donors who provided incomplete information.
The complaint also cites the McCain campaign's pattern of ignoring federal election laws including violating the Presidential Matching Payment Account Act, the campaign's refund of approximately $50,000 in donations solicited by a foreign national, its continuing pattern of soliciting foreign nationals including the Russian Ambassador to the U.N and the FEC's September 30 request for additional information on numerous excessive contributions.
"The McCain campaign's lack of disclosure and disregard for the law he helped write raises serious questions about John McCain's commitment to the openness and transparency the voters expect from their leaders," said DNC General Counsel Joe Sandler. "In view of the McCain campaign's clear history of violating campaign finance laws, it is imperative that the Commission promptly conduct a thorough investigation of these violations; and a full audit of all of the McCain Campaign's contributions."
"If the Economy is so bad, how is it that one candidate can raise 500 million dollars" said one commenter on Politisite
A recent investigative article, Republican Trash Talk or Democratic Connivery? What Obama Allegedly Did Wrong, into the Obama campaign disabling of the Address Verification System (AVS) for online donations. credited this and other articles for bringing to light the Millions of Dollars of unverifiable donations sent via the internet. These donations were considered illegal as the name and address of the donors was unable to be verified by the SEC due to the Obama Campaign actions.
Sources:
- Timmerman, Kenneth R.-http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_fundraising_illegal/ 2008/09/29/135718.html
- Matthew Mosk- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/ 10/28/ar2008102803413_pf.html
- Andy Sullivan- www.reuters.com/article/politicsnews/idustre4942z720081005
- Albert N. Milliron- http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/obama-campaign-disabled-credit-verification-avs-donors
- Michael Isikoff- http://www.newsweek.com/id/162403
- Scott Donaldson- http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021856.php
- Matthew Mosk and Sarah Cohen- http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/21/obamas_175000_donor.html
- Blog- http://dancingfromgenesis.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/barack-hussein-obama-muslim-overseas-fundraising-scandal-illegal-foreign-internet-campaign-donations-contributions-palestinian-t-shirt-sales-michael-isikoff-newsweek-on-david-shusters-place-for-poli
- Pamela Gellar- http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_ contributions_sil.html
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Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (15)
at 12:27 on October 24th, 2008
Anyone surprised?
What, no comments on how good a story this is? Cat got your tongues?
at 12:33 on October 24th, 2008
politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff.
at 12:58 on October 24th, 2008
PEP, Thanks for the Flag. I see all the left leaning folks are figuring out what to say on this one. I see John "my constituents are Racist Red Neck" Murtha has disabled his credit card controls as well. Must be a Democrat thing.
at 04:02 on October 28th, 2008
It is highly unlikely that a genuin Obama supporter would make a donation in the name of Hitler. Someone trying to discredit Obama may well do so. Even without the huge disparity in campaign contributions Obama would still win. He doesnt need illegal contributions, he doesnt need bad press either. He will still win though!
at 13:54 on November 7th, 2008
Your right. Some on the right used many names with various address and credit card numbers to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the AVS was indeed off.
at 13:00 on October 24th, 2008
Source: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com
at 13:21 on October 24th, 2008
Thanks for your New York Times article. I covered almost everything mentioned in this article. “Anonymous, Anonymous” will be reported when the information is not currently available at reporting time. I like how the Obama campaign has a ready made come back for this issue. So McCain has some “Anonymous, Anonymous” donations almost 24 Wow. Folks will defend anything.
ACORN now admits it has really only register 450K but shared at their news conference just 3 weeks ago it was 1.3 million. How long is the left going to be apologists for these people.
If Ayers was a white supremist it wouldn't matter how long McCain knew the guy. Ayers only killed 7 people... remeber he said it himself, Guilty as hell, free as a bird". It is amazing from election to election Democrats standards change depending on if the man is a republican or democrat. Last election cycle all you heard about was Mark Folley. The guy Liberals picked in his place has actually done things wrong and the press doesn't even mention the guy. AMAZING. AMAZING how liberals morals change depending on what party the perpetrater is a member of.
Thanks for adding the additional information to the story. I would like to add it to the body
at 13:43 on October 24th, 2008
Ayers only killed 7 people... remeber he said it himself, Guilty as hell, free as a bird" (sic)
Source: elections.foxnews.com
Source: elections.foxnews.com
Source: my.nowpublic.com
at 14:50 on October 24th, 2008
The reason that Ayers was never convicted is that the FBI wiretapped him illegally. Ayers Time line cannot be accurate as he was in hiding. Maybe the comments should get back to the article at hand.
at 13:26 on October 24th, 2008
ACORN now admits it has really only register 450K but shared at their news conference just 3 weeks ago it was 1.3 million. How long is the left going to be apologists for these people. (sic)
Source: whatsdrivingyoucrazy.com
at 13:33 on October 24th, 2008
I love that folks post information that is biased apparent to anyone who looks at something like, "the Keating5 McCain" Now if it is improper to bring up Ayers, then Keating5 is ancient history as well. I guess it would be fine for me to call the Senator Drug Abuser Obama" or "Cocaine snorter, pot smoker Obama" now is that appropriate? I think not. I said in my comment above that ACORN has just admitted to only really registering 450K what can you say about that specific statement?
at 22:28 on October 24th, 2008
Stolen credit card numbers, stolen IDs. even from foreign countries. and the money just rolls in. the phantom money. Chargebacks gonna be a bit@h, whatever the outcome. Everybody check your accounts.
at 12:33 on October 25th, 2008
You can see by all the attention to this story how many people really care how an election is won... I guess it's o.k. to break the law to get elected.
at 12:35 on October 25th, 2008
Seems like Sara Palins Clothing is a much more important issue then credit card fraud
at 00:01 on April 17th, 2009
United States is currently in recession that’s why more and more people today are in need of financial assistance. But with the high demand for financial aid, people still need to beware of those companies that would scam them. Financial aid is a tool that could really help those people that are in need of money. But because of some companies that lure their consumers to debt it has now receiving negative criticisms. Sometimes state agencies are also targets for criticism. The Maryland MVA (Motor Vehicle Administration) is becoming one of the newest and biggest bulls eye painted agencies. The Maryland MVA has been singled out for giving driving licenses to massive amounts of illegal immigrants, many of them with false addresses. Some of the perpetrators have been identified. This opens to the door to identity theft and voter fraud – and it isn't even illegal to do, even with the Patriot Act. A lot of people would give a cash advance to the Maryland MVA to only license citizens of Maryland, or America for that matter.