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Obama Decrees: Massive Immigration of Hamas Refugees from Gaza?
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by René | February 11, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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I am not ready for this!
Determining the Intent of the Presidential Determination
There has been much debate surrounding the issue of whether or not President Obama's Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27, 2009, effectively provided funding for members of Hamas to immigrate to the United States. While the determination itself did not include specific verbiage to that effect, just like reading the Koran without using the Hadith as a guide, reading the Presidential Determination without understanding the intent of the Migration & Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 and the accomplishments of the charged State Department organization, the Bureau of Population, Refugees & Migration, would lead even the learned to a conclusion that denied a reality.
The State Department's Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration (PRM) provides aid and sustainable solutions for refugees, victims of conflict and stateless people around the world, through repatriation, local integration, and resettlementpopulation and migration in the United States. PRM is also advancing the United States' policies.
I.O. offers the beginning of an article, "Obama Signs Presidential Determination Allowing Palestinians Loyal to Hamas to Resettle in US," by Kim Priestap in Wizbangblog (2/7) and encourages you to read the rest. Take a look at that bulleted list. Did you know?
President Barack Obama has signed a presidential determination allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to resettle in the United States. Sure, what can go wrong when we allow hundreds of thousands of people who have been, as Mark Steyn memorably described, "marinated" in a "sick death cult," who voted for Hamas, and 55% of whom support suicide bombings live here and at the American taxpayers' expense:
By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in migration assistance to the Palestinian refugeesand conflict victims in Gaza.
The "presidential determination" which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on February 4.
President Obama's decision, according to the Register, was necessitated by "the urgent refugee and migration needs" of the "victims."
Few on Capitol Hill took note that the order provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006.
Let's review some of Barack Obama's most recent actions since he was inaugurated a little more than two weeks ago:
- His first call to any head of state as president was to Mahmoud Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory.
- His first one on one interview with any news organization was with Al Arabia television.
- He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees halted.
- He ordered all overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.
- He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole and 9/11.
- Today we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refuges to move to and live in the US at American taxpayer expense.
Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
And for those of you who do not believe it is true, here is the actual Federal record:
Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27, 2009
Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related To Gaza Memorandum for the Secretary of State By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the ``Act''), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contributions to international, governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza. You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register. (Presidential Sig.) THE WHITE HOUSE, Washington, January 27, 2009
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at 13:14 on February 11th, 2009
You're not ready, OK, but where would you like them to go (or remain) then?
at 13:32 on February 11th, 2009
Where do you live, poor oligarch? Would you like them for neighbors? Ever heard of "you make your bed, you lie in it"? Only 750,000 fled Israel at the command of their leaders. Where did the rest of them come from?
at 07:24 on February 20th, 2009
Okay, folks! If you read the order it is for MIGRATION NOT IMMIGRATION which means that are not coming to the US. It is a humanitarian effort to provide resources for the refugees in the camps and those migrating there. It is from a line item in the budget just for these occasions. These people are trying to get away from Hamas. You are reacting to the bad information.
at 08:21 on February 28th, 2009
This is scary. I voted for him. I can only hope it is a prctical joke. These poeple cut heads off and blow up their kids in the name of allah.
at 15:51 on February 11th, 2009
Hmmm.
I am not an expert on American potitics, but I do follow international and geopolitical issues closely.
That leads me to say that I honestly (naively?) think that Obama is doing mostly PR stuff that he needs to do in order to detatch himself from Bush's policies in the eyes of the world. But, if ever push came to shove, he will work for America first. I wouldn't be too worried at this point.
My take on his actions so far?
The jury is out for me concerning Obama. Let's just wait and see....
at 21:13 on February 11th, 2009
The jury may be out.but it seems he has failed spectacularly before one month into his 'reign'.
Maybe only 800 to be allowed in at $25,000 each. But once you open the gates.....
Take note of the bill that opened the gates to immigration into the US,
Source: newmediajournal.us
Charges against Gitmo prisoners withdrawn
Source: cbsnews.com
Source: washingtontimes.com
at 01:50 on February 12th, 2009
Hi René, "only 800". Ah, it's good to see you have revised your figure of hundreds of thousands down to hundreds. We'll just have to wait and anything else is just conjecture for now.
You know, I just can't see how Cedar Hart and its consequences can be seen as an Obama failure. It's 44 years old and Obama was just a kid lol! Again, we'll have to wait and see if he follows its example or not.
I prefer "Halted pending the outcome...", which was the term used, to "Halted", which, used alone as you chose to, doesn't mean the same thing at all. I suspect abuse of selective word choice here, you little rascal! Won't fool me with that one lol!
And I certainly agree that some bad guys will be released, Bush did the same, as has been proved by some of these creeps turning up in Yemen, for example. I just hope Obama lets out as few as possible.....
at 17:53 on February 12th, 2009
Actually the 800 is my estimate, as the articles I quoted used the other, think they were over-reacting, but that's news too.
The term I used was that 'charges were withdrawn' not 'halted', that was from the quote from CBSNews. Actually they were forced to withdraw the charges of trials scheduled that were not going to forward while the President reviewed them.
I think there have been some over-reactions to both issues, even here.
Cedar-Hart becomes pertinent when you study the immigration policies of the US. Some of those policies have been 'racist', if you call the Irish a race, or the Chinese, but are the Palis a race? Or is the fear of them more from their criminal and terrorist activities? Do we really want to import terrorists legally?
at 11:55 on February 12th, 2009
The jury may be out.but it seems he has failed spectacularly before one month into his 'reign'."
I agree, Renee. He's a charlatan and a fraud and will only last one term. Hope and Change?
More like the politics of fear and business as usual in D.C.
at 09:36 on February 15th, 2009
I prefer to keep a balance in all things. That requires careful attention and diligence when reading or re-iterating what one hears and reads. It's no surprise that our nation is becoming more and more divided since the primary source of information is the television, a media outlet that almost every household owns regardless of the level of income or education, thus creating serious dysfunction in the ability to discern facts from fear in what is being presented. There is no question that we have two parties living out rivalries, fueding with words and gathering soldiers. So few people are willing to research what is behind the reported news....and as Fripouille points out, context and word usage is increasingly tainting the perception of the news.
Before we believe what is broadcast or written, make a pledge to yourself to do the homework. Little that is out there is based on all of the facts. We must bring to this new era of government a willingness to be on board or we could indeed throw out the baby with the bathwater. 3 weeks is hardly enough time to decide the outcome of anything. No president or policy will ever suceed if the nation decides he has failed before he even starts.
at 10:36 on February 18th, 2009
Which is why I also included the Federal Record of this Executive Order. Maybe many here objected to this posting, but many here need to be aware of the valid fears of those they oppose. Personally I believe that the "Massive Immigration" of hundred of thousands, was highly exaggerated. But, I also believe that taking the chance of allowing just one terrorist in among many possible 'innocent' immigrants is one too many.
at 14:21 on February 11th, 2009
I don't .like the idea of bringing people from Gaza to the US. The motives may be good but people could be resettled easier and quicker in the Middle East.,
as to Obama so far it is too early to determine his performance. Maybe in 8 months there will be enough to judge him on, not now.
I an bothered by his rush to get bills passed. I agree there are major problems needing resolution but change needs to follow good research to be sure it is good change. Taking 2 or three months to debate and thing would make for a better bill.
at 14:47 on February 11th, 2009
OK René ducked, will you pick up the ball and run with it 158? You at least suggest they - whatever that might mean - could be resettled in the Middle East - do you choose to be more specific?
at 18:10 on February 11th, 2009
Oh, no, P.O. I didn't duck. You did. Where do you live? And do you want them for neighbors? I said I was not ready for this. How about you? Are you?
at 04:20 on February 12th, 2009
Me? I'm in London where we have a couple of hundred different nationalities only a miniscule, statistically insignificant, proportion of whom turn into terrorists.
So back to my original question which you ducked: WHERE WOULD YOU want the Gazas to go to, or stay?
at 10:45 on February 18th, 2009
What a perfect alias for this ghost(unverified): a member of a "small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes." May I ask what your purpose here is?
at 09:32 on March 9th, 2009
The time to judge Obama was BEFORE the election. America is precious, and many have given their lives for our freedom. It was tragically irresponsible for so many Americans to put someone into the White House that they knew nothing about, and without proof of citizenship? What has happened here? If you owned a company, and you were hiring a new manager, you would more than likely have done a back ground check before you hired them. This is completely backwards, to stick a smooth talker with a nice smile in charge of the greatest nation on God's green earth, and then let him prove he's worthy? why didn't people do their homework? They could have seen what he stood for with 15 minutes of research. Irresponsible voting with no due dissigence may have put a fox in charge of the hen house.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
at 15:31 on February 11th, 2009
First of all, your assumption that these refugees are terrorists unworthy of American soil is ethnocentric, guttural nonsense. If you knew anything about Gaza, you would realize that a great deal of the poor in Gaza get what they need to survive from Hamas, not because they subscribe to some "death cult." They have nowhere else to turn. I'd be "loyal to Hamas" if they were the only ones feeding my children and so would you. Most families in Gaza don't have any predisposition to violence; in fact, just the opposite: they pray each and every day of their lives for peace.
I congratulate Obama for stepping up to the plate and offering money to get these prisoners out of the jail they have been prescribed since birth.
I also happen to go to University with many people from Palestine, including Hamas sympathizers. When you hear their stories of entire families being blown up in front of them, you come to understand their anger and frustration.
at 18:24 on February 11th, 2009
They do subscribe to the 'death cult'. They voted them in. And if you listen to their 'woe is me', you subscribe to their 'taqqiya'. Take your pick. Please note that often the Hamas rockets often land in Gaza not in Israel.
Oh, one more thing , literary gunk, I would be dead, before I let Hamas educate my children, or take any of their deadly handouts. You are NO guru in my book.
at 19:14 on February 11th, 2009
Oh oh, there goes the neighbourhood, yet the US refuses to take Gitmo prisioners, but I hear Canada might! Boy what a pair of countries we are!
at 20:39 on February 11th, 2009
Well, some in Canada do want back that kadr 'boy', tho he ain't a boy any longer. What both Canada and the USA suffer from as far as 'white guilt' goes more to the Native Americans than anything else.
What do you think? Would you want some of those Hamas 'refugees' as your neighbors? I didn't think so.
Let's see who else would take them in? What? No Takers? How about you, moon? Want a couple?
at 21:20 on February 11th, 2009
I would be thrilled to have refugees from Gaza as my neighbours. As it is, I am taking several classes with students who have come directly from Gaza and they are fascinating people with a proud, rich, cultural heritage that has survived devastatingly oppressive environments. They don't belong to any "death cults." They want to learn, have families and participate in a free, liberal democracy and I, for one, am proud to have them.
Rene: as you immediately began personal attacks on me rather than actually debating the issue at hand, you have exposed yourself as having a weak character that is more interested in "winning" than learning. I have only chosen to respond to this pettiness to show others how to do the same.
You constantly refer to people from Gaza as "they" or "them" as if they are all one inhumane entity, void of individual belief. It smacks of the rhetoric used by the Nazis to describe the Jewish race. Every single person in Palestine is as unique as every other person the world over. Creating the “us” and “them” argument is what started this mess. Pointing fingers and making wide, sweeping generalizations clouds the issue and takes time away from a real discussion on the facts:
- The average weight of a Palestinian in Gaza has dropped 20 pounds in 5 years because they have been cut off from their family gardens by Israeli checkpoints. After refusing them access to these gardens, the Israelis take them, justifying it by saying they are being left unattended.
- Schools are riddled with bullet holes or destroyed completely by Israeli rockets.
- Hospitals are pitifully underfunded and lacking in essential medicines and services.
- No one leaves. Most have never seen what life is like outside of Gaza. It has become a prison nation.
- The death count is 100:1. That is a massacre, not a war. Every child that throws a rock at a tank is counted as an act of terrorism by Israeli intelligence services. The statistics are skewed to justify reprisals.
- 47 percent of Gaza is under 16.
The world is bearing witness to what is being done in Gaza and sympathy for Israel is losing ground quickly. George Bush and his neo-conservative rhetoric that painted every Muslim as a terrorist might still work in trailer-park America, but informed, educated intellectuals like Obama know reality and will act accordingly. The days of living in fear are over.
at 21:57 on February 11th, 2009
As far as pettiness, littery g, you still duck saying where you live. Everyone knows where I live.
And no way do I think the people mf gaza are just devoid of belief. They radically do believe, In the life of their prophet and his book.
I don't. period.
They have beautiful children and I feel they have been radically abused.
so glad you are happy to have them for neighbors, and hope they are NOT in my neighborhood,
We are not interested in their radical views being imposed on our city.
at 06:37 on February 12th, 2009
It's refreshing to see someone stand up for the poor people of Gaza, you make a lot of sense Literary, as someone who feels strongly about this, perhaps you could sponsor them yourself to come to your country? It is time for people to put their money with their mouth is. How many can we put you down for. 10-20-100, I suggest you go to the immigration and naturalisation centre in your country and demand your country let you sponsor, feed and clothe these poor people. Time is of the essence, so hurry and let us know how it turns out.
at 10:56 on February 18th, 2009
Jeez, Barry, he's, moon and literaryg, are inviting them to YOUR country, your neighborhood.
at 12:54 on February 18th, 2009
I have only one comment:
Take the guns away from Hamas and Hezbollah and you will have peace; take the guns away from Isreal and they will be destroyed.
at 14:45 on February 21st, 2009
Litery..lol
its not Rene's fault schools are getting shot up in another country.. why dont you just go move there then, and help all your proudness there...write back and tell everyone how its going...go show how its done, instead of standing here and trying to make ppl feel sorry and worship your idiotic guru gunk.
the whole stupid executive order should have never happened....if he wanted to do that, or if its PR, he should use his own dam money!!! 20.3 million bucks FOR PEOPLE HERE ( Our Money!!) can go along way.
either this plays to another agenda, or nobody is getting their priorities straight...
it is so wrong. either way.
at 10:02 on February 15th, 2009
Rene, tho you present one side of the argument, fear of something completely foreign and unknown is the basis for it. I don't profess to know much about Hamas but I do know that I am not educated enough about them to make generalizations which lead to definitive assumptions. As in anything [culture] we are not familiar with, the negative aspects will certainly overtake the positives....and thus, the only image we, as a whole, conjure about Hamas is the unsavory pictures and words that the media has presented us.
Consider the perception that those in other parts of the world have painted of you and me....U.S. citizens. To them, we are what most of us fear Hamas is. Perception is everything. It keeps all people blind and fearful unless we dare to question and educate ourselves further.
I was recently forwarded a website that could pinpoint all those who have been convicted and/or served time for various crimes that live within blocks of my own neighborhood. Talk about frightening! I am more concerned about those known theives, rapists, kidnappers and others (I'm not making this up) who already live next door to me than I am worried about the few Hamas that might find peace here beside me. What do those criminals have to lose? They won't be detained or deported for they are part of us, our own!
Chances of EACH of them [Hamas refugees] becoming the Terrorist-Next-Door is miniscule compared to the U.S. criminals who already live three streets over. Be careful about buying into the hype that fear and loathing promulgates.
at 19:31 on February 18th, 2009
I do live in an area such as you describe, New Orleans, and the difference of just one block can put you in danger. And many are illegals and not many do get deported even for criminal activity. Recently a group of them killed elderly bar owners and patrons in an effort to rob them. Gomez Bar Marrero Massacre suspects Illegal Aliens.
But New Orleans is an area these people might desire to live, an international port, a cosmopolitan community. So the chances of one of them becoming a neighbor is high.
at 21:25 on February 11th, 2009
One more thing.
The premise of this article is false. The Presidential order simply gave money for relief for refugees. Immigration to the U.S. is not being offered in the order.