Obama sets WH immigration reform meeting June 8, 2009 NO AMNESTY

I loved everything you said! I am with you! Something needs to be done and fast!

I also agree with Melisa!! Something needs to be done!! We are not animals!! There is already too much injustice being done in the world today. I believe if America wants to set an exmple for the rest of the world, we ought to start treating immigrants better. If we want to rise from this Economical crisis, an immigration reform is a great first step to be taken. Please do something, now......we need a change........and YES WE CAN!!!

I completely agree with Melissa. Immigrants do not come to the United States to cause problems or to take jobs from Americans. They are people who come from countries where there are no opportunities. They feel obligated to cross the border in search of better lives for themselves and their children. Yes, they know they have broken the law but what would you do if you had children and could not afford to feed them and you knew that they would never go to school or be anyone in life? Wouldn't you cross the border in search of a better future? Immigrant families come here with no money, no clothes, and some cannot even speak English. They face judgment, racism, and struggle to adapt to a new culture, and to learn a new language. No one would put themselves through such struggles for the fun of it. Even though it is so difficult for them, they stay here because they know life will still be better for them in the U.S. than it was in their native countries. Many of these hard working families manage to learn the language and the culture, and many even have children in college. These families are no different from any other American families. Our immigration system is so broken that it is impossible for so many people to become legalized. Only a handful of people can actually meet the requirements to apply for naturalization. Meanwhile, lawyers are ripping people off with fake promises when our government could just as easily change the immigration system so that more people can come here legally. These are not criminals we are talking about. They are people with feelings and goals, and dreams. All they need is a piece of paper that says they are legal residents and president Obama made a promise to help these people. I am certain that we elected a good man to be president, a man of integrity, who keeps promises. President Obama, please be as amazing as we know you are by keeping your promise to help immigrant families. Our country needs a positive change. Comprehensive immigration reform will better our country, help our economy, and forever change the lives of hard working individuals. You can make this happen and we should all support our fellow immigrant friends in their effort because we are ALL immigrants. 

Sorry, NO AMNESTY isn't strong enough.  We need to make our opinions known by all peaceful means necessary, including boycott, reporting companies that hire illegals, and pressuring the lawmakers for stronger deportation laws.

This country is slowly degrading into North Mexico simply because the citizens there are unwilling and lazy to rise up and fix their own corrupt, immoral government.  Why should they, when the easy ticket is to illegally cross without having to learn english, heavily burdening our schools, hospitals, and social welfare systems?

Hello All.

I want to try to have a reasoned discussion on this issue. I understand the empathy for less fortunate people. I understand helping the less fortunate. I do not understand how you are proposing to acheive this. 

What reforms in particular are you suggesting? 

Should there be a limit to the number of immigrants we let in each years? I do not want to be critical of well reasoned welfare reform, if it is done within the bounds of reality. that reality being that there is unlimited demand for the limited resources of each country and the World? How do you propose dividing up those limited resources? Who get's to decide who get's what? That having been said, if we allow everyone to break the law, we will have anarchy. What elements of your proposed reform will prevent anarchy from occuring? 

Anarchy will occur when their are too many people seeking limited resources. I did not make the rules, I just acknowedge that they exist. With that introduction out of the way: I am going to risk saying that immigration in present day America has changed from what it has been historically.  Historically, America was a melting pot.  People came to the country and within 1 or 2 generations, blended into the American Culture, giving it a flavor but not overwhelming the fundamental nature/culture of the USA. 

Today, large segments of the immigrant population seperate themselves from the rest of traditional America. The Goverment provides them many forms in there own languages further providing disincentive to blend into the cultural melting pot. This balkinization me troubles me greatly.

I am afraid that the USA is becoming fragmented and will become vulnerable to dividing over cultural lines.  For 200 years we have taken in immigrants that have blended into our culure. In my 50 years, only in the last 10 have I seen this seperation and fragmentation occur. Am I wrong to want America to remain an historic America with Subtle flavors of immigrant culture giving it healthy Zest ? 

Am I wrong in thinking that growing centers of immigrants who hold them selves seperate from the rest of America will eventually result in political rifts along cultural lines and finally the breakup of the USA? To drive the point home, may I suggest you ask the original Native Americans what they think of Illegal Immigration? Now, again at the risk offending - We do not have unlimited resources ? 

We are broke. 

We do not have the 2 Trillion dollars that is being spent.  Please research what happened to argentina in 2001 when its government just printed money and did not balance the budget. Argentina's economy collapsed. And the average person lived in anguish.  If we had the resources, I would encourage helping everyone. 

But we live in reality. And resources are not unlimited. Again, in the interest of reasoned political discourse, what reforms do you have in mind to address the reality of limited resources and unlimited human demand? I will accept the arguement that resources in the USA and the world are unfairly distributed. The masses have been lazy and have allowed their Governments, Corporations, the rich and the powerful to take an inquitable share.  It is the nature of man to compete. 

Some persons compete unfairly, unethically and amorally.  The avoidance of pain is the response of some when confronted with the unfair, the unethical and amoral. But, at least in American, WE THE PEOPLE, let it happen whether it be out of pain avoidance or selfish self-interest.. 

I do not have the resources to fight for fair and equitable distribution of resources nor for the human liberties of everyone in the world.  Further, I have to admit, I was fortunate to have been born in the USA.  But for that very reason, I will fight to address the injustices, lack of equitable division of resources and erosion of human and constitutional liberties that are occurring here, in the country in which I was born. 

You can read some of my efforts at these URL's [ spam filter wont let me add them without rejecting entire article] And all of these battles come at an economic cost. 

I have lost business, associations and  freindships for speaking my mind, but I continue to fight for future generations of Americans - Americans that I identify with culturally with regardless of race, creed, religion or nationality. 

Am I wrong to think that some citizens of other countries should fight the ruling elites in their own countries for the equitiable distribution of resources and undeniable human rights? Should some not stay in their countries and fight against the injustice that motivates them to leave and come to the USA?  Should they not fight for their culture in their homeland?   

"Evil is not neutral, and there can be no neutrality exercised toward it. Anyone who is not against it is perforce in favor of it." Haaretz  Please, again I ask for reasoned discussion.  The politicians interest in this subject is only political gain. My intent is to forge common ground, not animosity. Please respect my intent.

Respectfully,

Don Mashak

The Cynical Patriot