Obama: Take Down Fusion Center Gestapo, Fire Secret Service Boss

by Scrivener | April 25, 2010 at 06:09 am
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• Extrajudicial shadow government run out of America's 70-some multi-agency "fusion centers" decimates democracy, constitutional rights, personal liberty.


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Rogues and scoundrels appear to be running a multi-agency Homeland Security- administered fusion center cabal, in partnership with corporate and municipal officials across America.  These agencies, commands and corporations have constructed an extrajudicial, unconstitutional and morally bankrupt shadow government, run out of the nation's 70-some fusion centers, that pulls the power strings in this nation in a breathtakingly arrogant grassroots bypass of the civilian chain of command, the judicial system, and Congress.


http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

While many powerful agencies and commands are represented at this rogues' round table, from the Pentagon's intel and armed services branches (including the NSA and DIA) to the CIA and the National Security Branch of the FBI,  one agency presides over the throne room:  the agency that controls the "bubble," and, it could be argued, the physical and psychological environment of the man who allegedly sits in the big chair, the President of the United States.  That agency is the U.S. Secret Service.

Does the President realize the extent to which the rule of law in America has been eroded -- subverted?  A rogue bureaucracy's barely concealed disdain and disrespect for the chain of command?  The diminution of cabinet secretaries, who have been reduced to playing cameo roles in a political kabuki theater?

Is President Obama capable of entertaining the notion that silent, insidious microwave and radio frequency weapon systems could be altering his perceptions -- even his consciousness -- perhaps adversely affecting his health, his cognition?


http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves


Someone, some American hero, must talk a walk in the woods with Barack Obama, with his Blackberry battery removed and his person, his clothing and his courtesans swept for bugs.   Someone, some American hero, must tell Barack Obama that all those cell towers aren't just for phone calls, and that the weapon system camouflaged in those towers is not just used against "terrorists" and bad actors, but was devised and is being used as a tool of political and social subjugation, operated by amoral, cold-hearted bureaucrats who are driven not by the will of the people, but by an authoritarian, antidemocratic ideology of intolerance, exclusion, censorship, Gestapo-like community harassment, and hate.


http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-net-political-speech-targeted-americans


Someone, some American hero, has to tell Barack Obama that the hard-core element among the Bush leave-behinds he has inexplicably left at the levers of power will NEVER accept his direction; will NEVER respect the chain of command; will NEVER submit to his authority as the democratically elected leader of the nation.

Someone, some American hero, MUST tell Barack Obama that this evil cabal will NOT stand down, will NOT cease and desist, but must be removed from power and brought to justice.

Someone, some American hero, must tell Barack Obama that he MUST restore the rule of law and due process under the law by dismantling the multi-agency fusion center Gestapo.

Someone, some American hero, must tell Barack Obama that he must FIRE the director of the U.S. Secret Service and reform that agency from top to bottom -- or perhaps even abolish it completely, and absorb its duties (many of which appear to be duplicative) into agencies such as the FBI and Treasury, the cabinet department where agents that police the currency traditionally have resided, and to which they should be returned.

If Barack Obama persists in deferring authority to the multi-agency cabal;  if he persists in his refusal to make a rogue bureaucracy accountable to his leadership and to the chain of command, he will be assisting in the demise of his presidency and in his neutralization as the chief executive of the United States of America.

If Barack Obama thinks he can lead this nation by appeasing a rogue bureaucracy, he and the people of America could be in for some very ugly times in the very near future at the hands of this extrajudicial, and evil, shadow government.


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TI

A lot of money, a whole, whole lot of money is being made by the "defense" contractors each time they can add a new victim to their Gangstalking Network. (Meaning that there is never, never any incentive to remove victims from the punishment network.)  A whole lot of money is made by the Defense Superbureaucrats when they retire to move into their cushy jobs managing these "defense" contracts whose existence must be kept secret from the American public.          The anonymous Superbureaucrats of the "defense" agencies are invulnerable to prosecution despite having created an extrajudicial "cruel and unusual" punishment system that defies rule-of-law, the Constitution and Bill of Rights.     The punishment is "cruel and unusual" in that it delivers death in increasingly large, bullying does of daily harassment that never stop over years and years. The US Government gives jihadis at Gitmo more rights than targeted Americans are given in its nationwide system of electronic Auschwitzes. The Gangstalkers' intent is to "spoil" a victim's life by slander and perpetual harassment, until they die. If the harassment does not suffice, the US Government uses electronic weapons.

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Scrivener

PRESIDENT OBAMA -- Unknowing  Victim of Stealth Microwave Weapon Attack?


This journalist strongly believe that certain physical evidence would reveal that President Obama himself has been targeted, impaired and injured by silent microwave radio frequency attack, and that White House staff has suffered symptoms of extreme fatigue, exhaustion and other physical effects.  

The symptoms became so palpable that the political website Politico.com wrote an article about this strange, unexplained White House malaise.  I also took note of the sudden profusion of dark moles on President Obama's face; sores that seemed to resist rapid healing; bald streaks on his scalp; and premature, rapid graying of his hair.

And then there was that teleprompter that seemingly shattered in mid-air, with the stand still upright.

This writer posted several comments to Washington Post political blogs last year advising that top White House officials secure INDEPENDENT, outside experts to check the White House, E.O.B. and cabinet officer offices for the presence of EMF radio frequency radiation.  I would not be surprised if certain forces responsible for stealth electromagnetic attack upon this nation's top leadership stood down -- or at least, lowered the amplitude of their slow-kill death machine.

But the cowardly bureaucrats and Dr. Evils who would mount such attacks on political leaders (Google "Zelaya" and "microwave") will never completely stand down, because they are sociopaths and ideological zealots who believe that the end justifies the means.

Vice President Biden's son Beau, the attorney general of the state of Delaware, suffered what was described as a "mild stroke" on the very day that the local newspapers were blaring headlines about his office's handling of the case of a pedophile pediatrician.  I believe that this may have been no coincidence.  The symptoms that the younger Biden exhibited reminded me very much of my own.  Back in 2004, I actually felt liquid (blood, most likely) slogging around in my head as a result of what I believe was a regimen of daily electromagnetic attack.  Because this evil program has affiliated personnel in EVERY hospital in America, I feared going to the hospital for treatment.

Somehow, thankfully, I slowly regained my full cognitive powers.  But it was a long struggle.  As I have mentioned before, I believe that my visits to the Philadelphia field office of the FBI helped in that regard.   Perhaps the agency or command overseeing the microwave attack system reduced the amplitude of their torture out of fear of reprisals.  Or, perhaps, the evil officials in charge issued a revised order resulting in less frequent torture attacks.

But less torture is torture nonetheless -- and it continues TO THIS EVERY DAY, to this very Saturday morning.  I feel like someone spent the night clubbing me over the head with a baseball bat.  And I am certain that feeling is the result of a full night of microwave torture inflicted on me as I slept.

If anyone reading this has access to the Vice President, please ask him to read this article:

nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

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batvette


But less torture is torture nonetheless -- and it continues TO THIS EVERY DAY, to this very Saturday morning.  I feel like someone spent the night clubbing me over the head with a baseball bat.  And I am certain that feeling is the result of a full night of microwave torture inflicted on me as I slept.

That's pretty funny as every other TI who complains about electronic harassment, myself included, states that the one unavoidable  effect of this technology is that it's used to keep us awake.

Does Vic understand that the only recognized biological effect on humans by microwaves is dielectric heating of tissue?

Indeed, tests by the governent showed microwaves directed at a subject causes a 1/2 of 1 degree temperature increase in the upper thoracic region, causing increased respiratory rate, resulting in restlessness and anxiety.

Not relaxation and sleep.

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badexperiment

I have to concur with Vic on this one. I am also quite familiar with feeling like I have been worked over with a baseball bat in spite of a nights sleep. My opinion is that it may be targeted acoustic weaponry that sends low frequency acoustic volleys that are highly targeted (these weapons do exist - manufactured by SARA) and produce to some degree the symptoms of a light concussion. All they need for the acoustic weapon to work is to park a small truck nearby that can target the bedroom. or it can be targeted from a nearby home or apartment. These frequencies are below the range of human hearing, easily penetrate common building materials and can only be felt. I am convinced that they time the acoustic volleys to be masked by your heartbeats. You may think that your heart is beating unusually loudly upon waking in the middle of the night when in fact the acoustic 'bullets" are timed to each heartbeat as a way of masking them.

In my case, they are usually employed in the wee hours of the morning.  It is well documented that very low frequency acoustic waves trick the brain into stimulating cortisol (preparing the body for fight or flight) production even in sleeping humans. Therefore, your body is being stressed while you sleep, typically when cortisol production should be at its lowest. I would be very careful Vic not to become overly stressed or angry. All that extra cortisol can lead to stroke, heart attack, diabetes and other damaging health effects. Especially if cortisol production continues during the day in response to psychological triggers (i.e. gangstalking).

Drink plenty of fresh water, especially when you wake up at night, keep yourself well hydrated. I find that the acoustic weapons may dehydrate the body adding to the tiredness you feel.  Get plenty of exercise. Find ways to relax. And smile . . . alot! Cortisol is a real killer. You want to keep it to a minimum.

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batvette

Not following you there, you say "I have to concur with Vic on this one" and say you think some acoustic technology is used to make you feel like you've been worked over with a baseball bat despite a good night's sleep- make sure I got that right-

When my criticism of his account was his claim was the way he felt after a full night's sleep could be attributed to microwave attack, and I pointed out that the consensus amongst TIs was that microwaves were used to keep us awake.

This is a continuing nonsensical claim of his, that he can be knocked out by microwaves in moments, and that HPM directed energy weapons could be powerful sleep inducing devices. This goes against every bit of data one could find on the matter.

Vic has NEVER to my knowledge mentioned any acoustic technology being used, so I'm really not sure what it is you're concurring with.

Vic is a 60 year old man who by his own admission hasn't been to see a doctor in over in 6 years, and reports that feeling bad in the morning must be attributable to a technology he doesn't know the first thing about. His claims might be credible if he were to get a physical on a regular basis, many things could be going on here.  I feel like crap when I wake up too, I'm 47 and when I woke up when I was 30 I felt great.

What technology do I get to blame?  

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badexperiment

I agree with Vic as regards the symptoms-- however as I clearly stated it is my personal opinion that the weapons used in this type of attack are acoustic, not microwave. SARA, a weapons contractor actually had the acoustic weapons featured on their website about five years ago and described those very symptoms as the physical "less than lethal" effects those weapons were designed to produce. They actually used the 'baseball bat" analogy as part of their description.

Batvette, Vic and I are both trying to make the most educated guess possible, and we could both be off base in attributing the source. Vic could be right, and I could be wrong. However, I totally agree with Vic when it comes to the symptoms the weapons produce. This is not just waking up in the morning with a few aches and pains. The symptoms produced by these weapons go beyond that. Plus if you ever wake up unexpectedly while undergoing such an attack you will figure that out rather quickly. I have always been of the opinion that they mix the use of the two technologies (microwave and acoustic) to produce specific effects on the body. I consider the acoustic especially dangerous because it stimulates cortisol production. Literally your body is producing cortisol during the day from psychological triggers and at night from low frequency acoustic waves. They are trying to destroy a person through his own immune system with that technique.

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batvette

I agree with Vic as regards the symptoms


Vic has never been to see a doctor for anything related to what he reports.

Have you? You describe "increased cortisol production" as an effect of acoustic weapons and speculate the addition of microwave weapons to produce "specific effects" on the body.

Have you seen a doctor and had him observe elevated cortisol levels in your body with no explanation for this occurring, and he explained to you that this was why you felt bad?

You are explaining it is your opinion that this is what is going on and this humility is why I do not attack you on the level I do Vic. He demands that his highly inaccurate technical claims are to be considered factual, and when you come in and defend him on what is really the most unscientific basis possible- that you, like me, both are aging males who don't regularly see a doctor and are now feeling like crap after a night's rest- you only offer him another avenue of ambiguity to build upon to continue adding to the pool of disinformation that TI's and what now appears to be out greater problem- the wannabe TI's, are repeating as fact.

The "wannabe's" are out there in droves and I am jaded enough with humanity to know they aren't perps doing "psy-ops" but foolish bored idiots seeking attention. Now every middle aged bored housewife or unemployed husband will read this and instead of seeking qualified medical advice for a problem, now claim that every doctor in town is part of the "program" and a van up the street is attacking them all night long. To convince themselves it's really happening they will search out internet sites for any event they can latch onto, and start telling everyone that perps walk into their house at will and rearrange their sock drawers, let the refrigerant out of their car's A/C, and all manners of idiocy that nobody will care to discern the real from fantasy because they themselves are merely looking for validation and they don't want to know if that person is crazy or lying because it would mean once more looking at themselves.

About 95% of the time I cannot discern whether a person is "real" or a charletan, and even if I can tell it's the latter who knows what their angle is.

One thing I do know it's that if a person is outright lying- not wrong, not "I forgot" but lying- you really can't take a damn thing they ever say seriously. You seem like a fairly intelligent person and maybe I take one of the very few skills I was born with for granted- speed reading and a near photographic memory for details of some, tho not all, of what passes before my eyes- and assume you all can see how many contradictions he posts.

Have you not seen enough to realize he is in fact, for whatever reason, fabricating most of what he claims here? Or have you seen it but don't care because you feel "any publicity is good publicity"?

Do you realize that if this ever progresses to a point of legal action or any authority taking up our case, a scant few minutes by a first year psych student of Vic's rants of persecution  here will lead to a diagnosis of classic paranoid delusional schizophrenia, and this will set us back for years? I'm not talking about "maybe's" or "benefit of doubt" here. He's got so much over the top stuff across the net it's beyond obvious.

It's a shame the way NowPublic doesn't organize its archives to make it searchable, but at least they do keep it. I can rattle off the number of truly absurd claims he's made, and worse, the blatant lies, enough to make your head spin. I am not the positive thinker you seem to be, and concede our "roles" in the community may fall as polar opposites- you to provide philosophical strength and me to watch out for all the bullshyte being spread around. I can't believe, however, that even Pollyanna herself would not raise a red flag at a prolific liar. Are you afraid that facing what Vic is really doing means a bit of hope is gone? Can't you see that allowing, or worse, aiding his circus, does great harm to us?

If you need examples I will as usual list each with reference. And finally anyone wishing to play the tit-for-tat or compare me with Vic can show me the respect I will show Vic and produce a lie I  have posted with reference.

If any of the rest of  you aren't concerned with someone's account filled with lies  then perhaps you are indeed a wannabe only seeking validation, not progress. That is sad.

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Cleatus

Three of my friends and myself here in Florida appreciate what you are doing Batvette.  Keep up the good work!!!!!

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Scrivener

This reporter does not present as fact "educated guesses."  

I state what I know to be true, and I also state clearly when I am offering a theory.  You, sir, are engaging in clever but transparent psy ops.  I've never bought your act, even as you offer your faint praise, and I doubt that educated readers are buying it, either.

Low frequency acoustic waves can be generated by way of the same microwave main carrier of the multi-functional microwave/laser radio frequency directed energy weapon system.  The microwave carriers are multiplexed and can transmit sub-frequencies that are ELF or VHF or UHF -- or, perhaps, virtually any other frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum -- maybe even gamma rays or X-rays.  I am not sure about this weapon's system's capacity to deliver all frequencies at the extreme ends of the spectrum; but theoretically, I can see no reason why that would not be possible.

The patent document offers some clues when it discusses the system's capabilities, such as the alteration of atmospheric conditions.  I believe this system is capable of generating earthquakes via ELF (what used to be referred to as the G.W.E.N. network is believed by some analysts to have such capabilities).  Do I know for sure?  No, I do not.

This is a super-weapon, capable of mass destruction, or precision-targeting of specific individuals, specific body parts -- internal or external.

It is probable that there are "acoustic wands," and of course there are laser "dazzlers" and other hand-held gizmos.  But this stuff about trucks parked outside -- IMO, that is DISINFORMATION intended to keep secret the microwave cellular "torture towers" that have been installed in every corner, every neighborhood in America, camouflaged as "cellphone towers."

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Scrivener

Can you say "subcarriers" -- subcarriers tuned to frequencies that affect specific human physiological and neurological functions? That's why I after I was first attacked, they rushed to take an EEG.  Brain map.  Precise frequency mapping of a target's physiology and neurobiology.  I'm sure the data went right to the fusion center operatives. 


Can you say, Dr. Mengele?


That's what's being done here, why Raytheon calls it a "multifunctional microwave radio frequency directed energy weapon system."  Precision targeting.  Speed of light.  An energy dump that follows the triangulated beam path.

Let me know when you get it, because you either don't, or, more likely, are on a mission of disinformation to help keep the public in the dark about the awesome capabilities of this God machine.

It apparently even can alter atmospheric conditions, alter the weather.  It began as HAARP.  Now the grid extends nationwide.

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batvette

 a mission of disinformation to help keep the public in the dark about the awesome capabilities of this God machine.

Actually "disinformation" is describing a machine with a patent to reference it then adding a multitude of capabilities not only never mentioned in it but that violate many laws of physics, to attempt to validate you stories of fantasy.

Credibility is something we can't compromise. You have self assumed the role of spokesperson for the TI community yet have consistently been revealed to be a liar, have no technical knowledge of what you descibe. and display all the tendancies of suffereing from a mental illness that is used to deflect our accusations when we report them. 

For whatever reason, you are a charletan.  





 

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Scrivener

The above post did not post immediately, but apparently was subject to the "catch and release" censorship/prior restraint regimen -- which tells me that the real-time censors were pondering whether to prevent the comment above from going through, but finally decided to "release."  (The very act of warrantless surveillance without probable cause, followed by interception and withholding, is unconstitutional and illegal, IMO, and the officials who authorized this regimen are criminals.


Why the delay?  Perhaps because what I am reporting is true and correct, do you think?

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Rosemary Cancellieri

Using my name is important, subsequent to getting over the fear, it helps me to reach the many many people who know me and who will respond accordingly.   I still wholeheartedly believe that awareness is a significant part of preventing this hideous rape of a persons life.  Rage is an appropriate response to these unfathomable human rights violations.

Quotes from avatars to reach above :

Deepak Chopra ~ When I am free from fear, I can step forward in life, immune from what people think of me.

A successful (wo)man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at her/him -David Brinkley

I have faith in the people who are becoming aware of this covert criminal activity.  Absolutely no one is exempt.

I do not agree the most people are unconcerned about constitutional rights.  Like the "moral majority" referred to many years ago -- the corrupt element perpetrating this crime simply scream the loudest.  I believe Hillary called it the insurgence of the "Right" and they are not the majorit, just better organized?  This is a problem.  Their rhetoric and strategy appears to follow a similar pattern as the targets are being subjected to.  Their strength is a facade so does not exist. Their movement is built upon a foundation of sand "The Lie" and smearing all the efforts being made to bring power and truth back to democracy.  Nothing built on sand will hold.


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badexperiment

Rosemary, I am certain that with all the abuse male victims of these harassment programs get, it is doubly hard on female targets. Most likely, the abusers feel emboldened to say and do things to women that they may not do to male victims. Most gang stalkers would never challenge me physically or verbally while they may be inclined to harass a female victim more overtly and abusively.

My faith as one of Jehovah's Witnesses has been a powerful aid for me. For example, I learned this week how the culture in Jesus day not only isolated people they considered lowly or "unsuitable," they also pressured family members and the community at large to avoid them. Sound familiar? Jesus boldly defied this custom by talking to people who were isolated thereby making himself despised in the process. A classic example was his talking to a Samaritan woman at the well, which violated three cultural taboos of that day: 1. Jewish men never spoke to women in public, it was considered scandalous to do so. 2: The Samaritans as a people were especially hated by the Jews of Jesus day and were considered unworthy of even a common greeting. 3. That Samaritan woman was a prostitute which made her even more despicable in the Jewish culture. Yet, Jesus defied all those cultural taboos in kindly reaching out to outcasts and despised people. If he walked the earth today he would do the same thing for those considered unworthy by the community. He taught by example the sort of persons that genuine Christians should be. Jesus Christ has not changed, and reflects the feelings of our Heavenly Father. Anyone who prays to God in sincerity for help will get a response. He understands our plight better than anyone.

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Rosemary Cancellieri

YO Badexperiment,

I think as TIs we all have different experiences and coping skills.  I was gang stalked not because of weakness but rather my strength.  I have a math formula that works for me in disassociating myself from what I have referred to as the "box mentality" and/or "sparrows" and/or Dodos  it's very simply 1,000 X zero = zero.   They do not think for themselves, most are totally unaware of what their behavior is contributing to and it is chaos.

Targets are also skewed in their perception via isolation and the continuous assaults to their normalcy.  I have a treasure box that is full and the people I have known do not fit the construct that the perps would like to project as the norm aka the majority of citizens in our country.  This crime is not sanctioned by our true Justice System and it is a blatant assault on the character and integrity of OUR country.  A TI's world in consumed by this mentality to the point of perceiving it as a "new norm".  It is not. 

It wasn't so long ago that I was blissfully ignorant of these subjects and this is the fact for most people who have not had a loved one or themselves so victimized.

As a student of A Course in Miracles, I too have had tremendous reliance upon my spiritual strength.  My survival is literally a  miracle and a testimony to my strength not weakness.  This is a covert crime inflicted upon innocent  people by cowards who hide in the shadows.

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TI

Batvette, You wake up feeling like crap because making a living by gangstalking computer-perpism is a moral crime against your fellow human beings. Doing harm to our brothers, our fellow human beings, drains the soul. Noble souls, like Vic, have to be drained by constant harassment and "nonlethal" (as if) weapons. You wake up feeling like crap, because you participate in tearing down the rule-of-law in America, which used to be a beacon to the he rest of the world. You wake up feeling like crap, because you blindly follow orders in carrying out extrajudicial executions of victims chosen by our self-destructive "defense" institutions and ignorant "intelligence"  agencies. Your salary is blood money sucked from the suffering of your fellow Americans. THAT is why a 47-year-old man wakes up feeling like crap.

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batvette

My salary? Then link us to a cancelled check.  A budget line item. How stupid are you to assume that I would need to be paid to reveal that a person who has self assumed the role of spokesperson for me and many others, for our cause,  is a liar and a charletan?

 you've never substantiated a single accusation you've made against me nor do you copy/paste a single statement to challenge its talking point.

you've been here long enough to have seen my well referenced accusations against Vic yet continue to ankle bite me merely for revealing his many falsehoods.

Whether you are the dumbest TI ever,  a wannabe, Vic sock puppeting himself, or what you accuse me of, is no concern of mine. Until you can back up your name calling with anything other than rhetoric that appears to come right from  Vic himself, you are what you are: a faceless troll who I can assume the identity of with my next post and say anything.

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Mark Twain

I highly recommend the book of Mark M Rich, The Hidden Evil. It explains the evil that is infecting the US and the rest of the English-speaking world. The bankers and resource-grabbers have stolen the republic and put it in their pocket. FascismRUs.

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batvette

I respect Mark and think his speculative analysis of the architecture of OS/EH is as analytical and intelligent as anything out there.

Over time however I have come to the realization it is really just that, and much of the referencing he provides for his work is considered by the mainstream as conspiracy theory.

He also seems to tie much of his account into the "truther" conspiracy theory which dictates that 9/11 was a controlled demolition and this is where I had to say "uh-oh" and stop referencing his work.

Anyone who says "I doubt the official story we're told about 9/11" is fine by me- they'd have to be, as that comprises about 50% of the population, polls show.

Anyone insisting that the towers were brought down by controlled demolition is to be dismissed as an ill informed conspiracy theorist- polls show less than 6% of the population holds that view.

Indeed, they  should mock it, as the talking points of "truthers" are almost wholly without merit and often downright stupid or even lies.

Before you think I'm throwing down a smokescreen for the elite, you might look into  some of the windmills I've jousted lately:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)/Archive_3#NPOV_violation.3F

ctrl+f for batvette reveals an amazing "over 100 matches" each representing a signed entry by me or the opposing editor or his cabal naming me- and this is merely one archive of a battle which continues to  this very day as I struggle to steer this article away from its disingenous appearance hiding the machinations of those Mark names.  

So I know a little about conspiracy theory, think tanks, and the elite. Maybe, by now, nearly as much as Mark does, or did when he wrote that. I still am grounded on what the general public will see it as, and if you are limiting your audience to six percent of the nation, you've got problems.

Note I've emailed Mark on several occasions, even once with the gift of a piece of damning confirmation on the CFR, and he hasn't bothered to return my correspondence. I won't read anything into that but it would have been an opportunity for activism.

Note to you and "TI": do a little research into what I am really doing here. I suggest if you look at just a little of  my extensive writing at wiki, and see what I am doing here in contrast is not casting doubt upon OS/EH but upon a charletan whose parody of a TI story is really a liability- and search all over the internet for proof I am this "computer perp" and not what I say- you'll find it doesn't exist.

Think about what will end this. It's going to require 100% credibility. Not a bit of truth here and there in a pile of lies. I am not implying Mark Rich, however, is a liar. Just perhaps mistakenly presenting speculation as fact or forgetting his sources aren't all factual. For instance "the hidden evil" references a book by Jim Marrs called "rule by secrecy" which probably is fairly accurate in its portrayal of the think tanks and shadow government.

I have downloaded the whole book in pdf, however- (it's out there on the web free somewhere) any page of the last 1/3 of it will have you ROFLMAO, and truly wondering WTF Mark was smoking when he thought it was a good piece to reference. Sorry, Mark, if you are reading this- look at the book again- uh-huh. You can't associate us with that stuff.

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Scrivener

The most credible explanation for 9/11 that I have seen is contained at this web site of a physical engineer:

http://drjudywood.com

She makes a convincing case that the twin towers, and building 7, were pulverized in mid-air by molecular disassociation caused by a microwave/laser or particle beam or plasma DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPON... perhaps generated at the HAARP experimental facility in Alaska.

When I tried to publish her link some months ago, the real-time censors would not let the link post -- until I voiced a complaint with Verizon about malicious interception and tampering with my telecommunications.  Then the link got through.

The censorship tells me that maybe Dr. Judy Wood is onto the truth about 9/11.

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roselime not signed in

I was thinking about known dictatorships that have lasted some time..... if this targeting of innocents is really connected to a broader social scheme (that is, we might be targets and that US might be turning toward fascism, but those things may not be completely related)...... Dictatorships are often military might (it could be say the official military or the non official military) that lead to government power and positions and that leads to setting up finances for themselves in case the dictatorship falls - often the finances are moved to the former military/now govenment people and their offspring (there is a bloodline thing too).  Could it be that this is not generated by the financial elite, but rather generated by some kind of military elite in the hopes that they would get governmental power then more money?  .... That is, not all intellectual elite or financial elite are associated with the military..... Since the weapons, tactics, torture and harassment of TIs are linked to both military and intel (not to say necessarily it's the MIC though it looks that way) - couldn't it be some kind of (rogue?) military-intelligence taking this stuff on themselves?  It has to be generated by entities with money, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the financial elite is the one generating it.... I'm just taking potshots......  The truth is that they are so sneaky and use decoys and decoying so much to get us to direct our anger at the wrong people or agencies that we may not know who they are... I know what companies are *directly* associated with some of my harassment and surveillance - but who exactly are they working for?.... the problem is that I don't want to think that it is tied to the US government, but the lack of response from government agencies makes them look kind 'a bad.

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Anonymously Given

I see the foundation of the "shadow government" as coming from an ongoing river of corruption running between two groups - civil authorities and rich influencers who gained their wealth either by relatively benign means (decades of monopoly building) or by illegal cartel (drugs, professional government graft).   These two (or more) groups fed on each other's lawlessness and corrupt tendencies in a synergistic fashion ... until they became so comfortable with the blood on their hands that they no longer feel the need to wash them.   That is where we are.   A portion of society (fifteen or twenty percent) rides high on the wave of corruption flowing out to contractors of every ilk.  The primary and secondary financial impacts of this arrangement keeps the upper echelon flush with enough money to buy an escape from thier conscences.  (Luxury cars, boat at the beach, and maybe recreational drugs.)   The effects of escapism eventually comes home to roost ... and I think that chinks in the armor are already to be seen ...

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Scrivener

Are you asking me to believe the "bankers" control the military, intel agencies and secret services of the world?

Not buying it.  It appears to me to be the other way around.  The "Jews" don't control the world.  The militaries, intel agencies, secret services and global corporations do.  And that's not "Jew-friendly territory." 

Maybe that's why Mark Rich earns the endorsement of the psy ops brigade?


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roselime not signed in

My guess is not that they control the bankers but perhaps the bankers are controlled by "them" though they could be in cahoots too (if you look at the boards of directors of certain defense contractors you will get my point)... but not all the wealthy or ultra wealthy are the ones with the military might.  Even if you were a millionaire, the thought of getting placed in the OS/EH/Mind Control version of real life "human flesh engine" might make you more likely to do what they want and keep your mouth shut.  The wealthy have more to lose than we do..................I thought long and hard about the CFR/Bilderberger thing and surely those people have a great deal of power, but who has the military might?  What's also bizarre is that the very people that the US is in debt to are the ones who would be against some master world domination plan that would include them (unless they are the ones behind it lol)...............Some "think tanks" particularly neocon ones might provide the philosophical  "fuel" for this since they buy into that "peace through violence" delusion.  (No formal accusations here.)......The fact is that the tactics used are mostly ummm "old":  brainwashing from the 50s, Ewen Cameron-ish "depatterning", Cointelpro-ish, etc. and some of the mentality behind it is "old" (e.g., if it's about genocide then it buys into the overpopulation myth rather than the overconsumption reality).  Even the idea that humans can be reduced to brainwaves patterns and cheap behavioral psychology is kind 'a old-fashioned.  Everything about it appears quite old (except for some of the weapons, but the ideas behind the weapons are old ideas it would appear)..........It makes me think that the people masterminding this are, well, OLD............My harassers took a break in the week between Christmas and New Years, so Jews are probably out lol.............. I don't think this is about political parties or about religion -  whoever "they" are, they can clearly co-opt, blackmail, coerce, delude or whatever else to get groups and individuals to play along........ This is ultimately about arrogance, greed, corruption and lack of concern for ethics or human life (except their own lives of course).  And I honestly believe that their arrogance will cause their eventual downfall...........I guess someone rich can buy off the weapons, but I think this system appears too organized/efficient to be at the hands of some random rouge/bandit billionaires.  I remember I read something from Julianne McKinney where she says the government itself isn't even efficient enough to carry this off.

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TI

Batvette is a 47 year old computer-perp who is well paid by his "defense" contractor employer to defame Vic Livingston's revelations about the virtual Auschwitzes that our US Government has set up across Amerika. These virtual concentration camps are staffed by local police and fireman and gangstalkers who have bought the blarney that the concentration camp victims are worthy of their slow-kill genocide. Vic explains the how and why.. . and the Perps hate it.

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Cleatus

If that's the case, why is it that Vic NEVER answers any of the questions Batvette asks?  Batvette quotes Vic,  and asks him to reference the material he states repeatedly. He can't.  Makes you wonder......Who's on "their" team?

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batvette

You can't impeach someone's credibility if they aren't lying. It really is that simple, folks.  All I do is copy and paste the exact words and ask him to substantiate anything claimed as fact, or if it contradicts something he's said before I go look that up and provide it.

Who is my defense contractor employer?
 

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Scrivener

Second attempt to post this. Apparently, the censors do not want this read:

A colloquy from my Facebook page, posted today:

KM:

I have been reading about this subject nearly every day for the last two plus years. You are the first Targeted Individual I have come across with so much courage and hope. Most TI's are convinced the harassment can never end and will never end.

VL:

That attitude enables eugenicists. This is all about a genocidal, ideological- and hate-driven purge. Today it's me, tomorrow it could be one of the loved ones of those compliant cowards who choose to succumb to evil rather than take the risks entailed in resistance.

Easy for me to say, since I have nothing left to lose. This system of cellular microwave torture towers, coupled with the community-based domestic terrorism and the financial sabotage (financial crimes against "T.I.s" go uninvestigated), robs human beings of their free will, the very basis of human freedom. Only a very sick society and a corrupt government enabled by naive and/or bought off officials could produce such evil.

Not sounding very hopeful how, huh? Well, when faith and adherence to American values are all you've got left, you go on faith -- faith that enough of those on the inside share a love of freedom and respect for human dignity and free will. I also have faith that someone on high will tell Obama that HE HIMSELF HAS BEEN SILENTLY IRRADIATED AND HARMED -- and that no one is safe in America until the microwave ghetto / extrajudicial torture matrix is dismantled and those who stole free will, human dignity and personal liberty are brought to justice.

Firing Dennis Blair was a good first step. Now, how about the man who heads the agency that apparently coordinates this antidemocratic, heinous apparatus? Or does their exit strategy involve the neutralization of Barack Obama? That's what I fear the most right now -- along with those who are creating world chaos because they believe in a sick "End of Days" ideology. Read the "UW" field manual; it's a blueprint for what's happening.

Where is the 21st century Mark Felt? Are there no decent officials among the multi-agency fusion center matrix? I've given up on the media, and Congress. And a selfish society has ensured that protest movements no longer can work in America. Only the good people on the inside, men and women of conscience, can save America now.

Now let's see how long THIS comment remains on the web before it, too, is purged or maliciously altered to make it ungrammatical or nonsensical.

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batvette

Easy for me to say, since I have nothing left to lose. This system of cellular microwave torture towers, coupled with the community-based domestic terrorism and the financial sabotage (financial crimes against "T.I.s" go uninvestigated),

Why  should they investigate? You have claimed to  have in your possession at various times, the following pieces of actual physical evidence:

1. Utility bills that were "obvious forgeries"

2. Financial Statements from your bank that were also "obvious forgeries"

3. Cancelled checks received by you from your bank, written against your account, that were not in your handwriting and signed but not by you.

YET you seem to have misplaced all of these items and can't remember what you did with them. What did you tell the "authorities" you had for them to investigate? The rantings of a dimwit lunatic, one can only imagine.

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Scrivener

No, I haven't misplaced the evidence... but with goons entering my home while I sleep to vandalize and terrorize and poison, and with law enforcement unwilling to investigate the obvious involvement of nearby residents in this community-based vigilante torture matrix (despite the likelihood that the mere threat of perjury probably could get some of them to "flip"), will the evidence remain intact, and who's going to do a real investigation? 


No one, because the locals and their rogue fed "partners" have been covering up these crimes for years (maybe even sharing in the spoils?), enabling the GPS good squad community stalkers who make my life hell every day.  That is why  I am calling on the Civil Rights Division of DOJ to make an example of Bucks County, PA, home of the mid-Atlantic states fusion center known as MAGLOCLEN, which appears to coordinate the entire stalking-electromagntic torture-financial sabotage matrix.

Again I repeat:  You claim to be a "T.I." when all you are is a transparent, inept practitioner of lame psy ops. 

Or you are my assigned double agent straw man, since your postings here are so easy to knock down.  Thanks again.

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