Obama: Take Down Fusion Center Gestapo, Fire Secret Service Boss

by Scrivener | April 25, 2010 at 06:09 am

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• Extrajudicial shadow government run out of America's 70-some multi-agency "fusion centers" decimates democracy, constitutional rights, personal liberty.

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Rogues and scoundrels appear to be running a multi-agency Homeland Security- administered fusion center cabal, in partnership with corporate and municipal officials across America. These agencies, commands and corporations have constructed an extrajudicial, unconstitutional and morally bankrupt shadow government, run out of the nation's 70-some fusion centers, that pulls the power strings in this nation in a breathtakingly arrogant grassroots bypass of the civilian chain of command, the judicial system, and Congress.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

While many powerful agencies and commands are represented at this rogues' round table, from the Pentagon's intel and armed services branches (including the NSA and DIA) to the CIA and the National Security Branch of the FBI, one agency presides over the throne room: the agency that controls the "bubble," and, it could be argued, the physical and psychological environment of the man who allegedly sits in the big chair, the President of the United States. That agency is the U.S. Secret Service.

Does the President realize the extent to which the rule of law in America has been eroded -- subverted? A rogue bureaucracy's barely concealed disdain and disrespect for the chain of command? The diminution of cabinet secretaries, who have been reduced to playing cameo roles in a political kabuki theater?

Is President Obama capable of entertaining the notion that silent, insidious microwave and radio frequency weapon systems could be altering his perceptions -- even his consciousness -- perhaps adversely affecting his health, his cognition?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

Someone, some American hero, must talk a walk in the woods with Barack Obama, with his Blackberry battery removed and his person, his clothing and his courtesans swept for bugs. Someone, some American hero, must tell Barack Obama that all those cell towers aren't just for phone calls, and that the weapon system camouflaged in those towers is not just used against "terrorists" and bad actors, but was devised and is being used as a tool of political and social subjugation, operated by amoral, cold-hearted bureaucrats who are driven not by the will of the people, but by an authoritarian, antidemocratic ideology of intolerance, exclusion, censorship, Gestapo-like community harassment, and hate.

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-net-political-speech-targeted-americans

Someone, some American hero, has to tell Barack Obama that the hard-core element among the Bush leave-behinds he has inexplicably left at the levers of power will NEVER accept his direction; will NEVER respect the chain of command; will NEVER submit to his authority as the democratically elected leader of the nation.

Someone, some American hero, MUST tell Barack Obama that this evil cabal will NOT stand down, will NOT cease and desist, but must be removed from power and brought to justice.

Someone, some American hero, must tell Barack Obama that he MUST restore the rule of law and due process under the law by dismantling the multi-agency fusion center Gestapo.

Someone, some American hero, must tell Barack Obama that he must FIRE the director of the U.S. Secret Service and reform that agency from top to bottom -- or perhaps even abolish it completely, and absorb its duties (many of which appear to be duplicative) into agencies such as the FBI and Treasury, the cabinet department where agents that police the currency traditionally have resided, and to which they should be returned.

If Barack Obama persists in deferring authority to the multi-agency cabal; if he persists in his refusal to make a rogue bureaucracy accountable to his leadership and to the chain of command, he will be assisting in the demise of his presidency and in his neutralization as the chief executive of the United States of America.

If Barack Obama thinks he can lead this nation by appeasing a rogue bureaucracy, he and the people of America could be in for some very ugly times in the very near future at the hands of this extrajudicial, and evil, shadow government.

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TI (not verified)

at 03:36 on May 29th, 2010

Well, I must have really hit a nerve. Batvette et al have filled the thread, ex post facto, with irrelevant comments using my name of 'TI.' The Computer-Perps have always monkeyed with the flow of readers' responses by inserting ex post facto their attacks in the middle of the thread, but they've accelerated this ploy recently, making it more difficult for readers to follow the sense of the comments. Evidently the observations of us victims were getting way too pithy to let be. But, of course, the Computer-Perps' comments can always be spotted by their resort to obscenity. Gangstalking is not good for the soul.

Mark Twain (not verified)

at 04:34 on May 29th, 2010

Yes, they told us in computer perp school to use obscenities at will and no one will ever know it's us, because TI's are docile and our torture of them can never cause anger or frustration. They will enjoy their treatment as it gives them something to complain about, it's working well for us on Vic.

TI (not verified)

at 03:49 on May 29th, 2010

Amazing....the computer-perps have packed the thread with an unusual number of lengthy irrelevancies. One can only conclude that a genuine commentator must have written something important in the thread that they wish to bury deep and out of sight.

batvette

at 04:25 on May 29th, 2010

a genuine commentator must have written something important

Well then why don't you "genuine commentators" posting with no accountability through anonymous titles sort through your useless baseless accusations and Vic's drama queening rhetoric and we'll see if it's important.

stupidest post ever.

batvette

at 04:19 on May 29th, 2010

Oh sure you really "hit a nerve" with your rambling posts sock puppeting Vic. So why don't you explain:

1. What is "Project Geneva"? Explain why this isn't Vic making up an imaginary entity high in the government that he "reports to" solely to appear to display delusions of grandeur.

2. Why did he LIE, claiming he made no "inquiry" into the status of Naomi Wolfe in one thread, claiming facebook's statement he did was evidence of a defamation campaign- while in another thread he detailed his failed extensive attempts to do just that were evidence of censorship?

3. Why does he claim that seeing "my.nowpublic" in his browser after signing in means he is directed to a "spoof site"? In fact can he support a single one of his hundreds of claims of government censorship with evidence?

4. If "microwave attacks" left him completely incapacitated for 6 years, why is he not incapacitated now since he is still allegedly being attacked? What deadly effects of RF energy exposure magically subside or reverse?

5. In the first 2 paragraphs of this article he makes sweeping, yet specific, claims about federal government agencies and 70 government fusion centers. Does he have a single shred of evidence any of this is true? Since he complains no one will investigate, in what direction would he send an investigation should one initiate? On what grounds? On what criminal charge? He can't be bothered to videotape intruders nor document injuries, what would he have investigators do if they were here now?

6. Why does Vic reference a patent as evidence of his gov't torture towers but the patent's very purpose contradicts his ever changing embellishments of its capabilities?

TI (not verified)

at 05:30 on May 29th, 2010

Batvette, Your bland admission that you regularly use other posters' names (sandbagging them and the thread) is mind-boggling. You "admitted" your criminality. What a guy. That must mean that you are giving us TIs your tacit permission to do likewise.

batvette

at 06:53 on May 29th, 2010

us TIs

Stop being so self centered. I'm a TI as well, have posted here as such for over a year before you stumbled in here and your personal attacks on me have no basis other than disagreement over Vic's credibility.

For all we know you and Mark Twain are Vic himself sock puppeting his own comments.

You seem to think my well substantiated accusations that he is a liar and intentionally seeks to discredit all TI's with his parody act makes ME a "perp", well I think that makes you not too bright but I don't know WHAT you are.

Which is supported here:

You "admitted" your criminality. Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize it was a crime to post anonymously at nowpublic! Cite the statute please. There was a POINT to be made and I let you make that for me. What happened when you tried to post as "batvette"? You couldn't do it.

So how do you think it feels for me to be repeatedly attacked by some anonymous user who runs rather than back up their attacks, and could be anyone on earth and even sit and sock puppet themselves with several other pseudonyms?

Show some backbone and register a damn account or I'll reply to your attacks with all the honor and dignity they deserve. With whatever name sounds good that day.

Battyvette (not verified)

at 05:48 on May 29th, 2010

I apologize for my lies and obscenities.

roselime not signed in (not verified)

at 11:55 on May 29th, 2010

Has anyone considered a link between conficker and the OS/EH/Mind Control people? It looks like them or their equally aggressive enemies...

i am not batvette (verified) (not verified)

at 17:15 on May 29th, 2010

1. Conficker is a computer virus, isn't it?

2. What sort of link to the OS/EH/Mind Control people do you believe would be involved?

3. Who are Conficker's equally aggressive enemies?

4. Are these comments all experimental therapy, in which the commenters all contribute to enact Vic's fantasy, in an attempt to bring him back to reality, before a lobotomy is deemed as the only viable remedy?

Hmmm (not verified)

at 12:25 on May 30th, 2010

Given that the genocide continues, and BP et al are doing their best to destroy all living organisms on the face of the earth; perhaps people really are remote control automatons. Maybe humans are nothing more than self-replicating robots.

1. Perhaps it's not a computer virus at all, but a biological virus or toxin that has been given to extrajudicial targets to produce the symptoms of OS/EH. This is medically and scientifically valid, and a feasible observation.

2. Could the link to the virus be between factions of the medical establishment and OS/EH command central?

3. Could Conficker's equally aggressive enemies be antibodies fighting the virus?

4. That "experimental therapy" story line belongs to the book and movie "Shutter Island".

roselime not signed in (not verified)

at 08:53 on June 2nd, 2010

That's bizarre - some of my OS/EH symptoms leave *evidence* - especially the hacking and the death threats they posted. Amazing. In addition, most of my harassment has come from defense contractors and people associated with them. Does the virus simulate that too? Did I just imagine that my car windows were smashed out leaving glass all over my kid's car seat? I guess the police and some of the witnesses to my harassment over the years must have gotten contagion because they were hallucinating too.

roselime not signed in (not verified)

at 13:12 on June 1st, 2010

1. Mistake - not a virus - a worm - targets ports. 2. Defense contractors - aren't they hiring Chinese hackers to help them out these days?; if you read the recent article in the Atlantic Monthly you'll see that a) there is concern that conficker can take down all telecommunications systems as well as the whole internet; b) the level of sophistication is so great that they believe "a nation state" is behind it - they imply it's eastern bloc since conficker doesn't affect Ukranian IPs, but that looks like decoying to me. I have been a target for years and most of the harassment has come from companies that are defense contractors. Whether this is a continuation of Project Artichoke, the takeover of the NWO, some jerks with weapons who believe themselves about the law and can buy off politicians/agencies meant to protect us, a new McCarthyism without communists, the war on terror waged by the actual terrorists on innocent civilians, I don't know. I do know what I've experienced and I believe that some (but not all) TI accounts are true. Some of them are similar to some of my experiences. I don't know if I connect this to a larger conspiracy of fascist oligarchy takeover or if it's just non consensual human experimentation. But it does appear to be a conspiracy, doesn't it? And since conficker is also quite bizarre, I thought there might be a connection. I've had both email and telephone interference (and yes, I can prove it). This indicates that whoever/whatever is behind OS/EH/MC is VERY concerned with telecommunications of various kinds - this might match with conficker - see #2 above 3.Anybody who would use the internet or telephone. It's not about "enemies" - it's about control. My hope is that conficker is generated by the enemies of the OS/EH/MC people and will hack the database with our names on it and expose this crime. I can dream, can't I? 4. No. To come to a thread about targeted persons and accuse someone of being conspiracy-minded is about as lame as being a perp, don't you think? Maybe if you read up a bit on what conflicker is, what it's capable of doing, and the fact that it's not under control you will also see that whoever is behind it has something in mind besides stealing their credit card numbers or reading people's email. ps. I just brought it up as an idea - maybe someone else knew more about it than I did.

Anonymously Given (not verified)

at 11:29 on May 30th, 2010

Given that this thread - indeed, the entire forum and the whole of the internet, for that matter - is a perps-only affair, it's interesting how the perp-brownshirts blythely go on-and-on, even in the absence of any real targets to antagonize. I realize now that they can't help it. They are such mind controlled drones that they must continue on with the "program" even in the absence of real people. I drove around earlier in the day, and as I noticed the usual Stasi signals from the brownshirt stalkers - I also noted that they continue displaying the signals in the absence of any other persons close-by enough to notice (other than myself, of course). It's an incredible sight - to see these bizarre antics acted out in a laxidaisical and (seemingly) unconscious way. Maybe these people really are remote control automatons! By comparison, I observce that the mindless street mimes noted earlier in the day mimic this forum precisely!

Roselime

at 06:41 on June 2nd, 2010

Dear Anonymously - In one of Allen L. Barker's essays it notes that they keep using the same anchoring things just because they worked once regardless of how much we ignore them. (I think it's in the Bayesian Stopping Criterion essay - BTW I highly recommend his essays.) I've seen that done with me too - my overt harassment (after *years* of covert harassment - some overt but I couldn't point to an specific enemy behind it) started with this Brazilian guy I was introduced to who later supposedly became the menacing stalker/hacker. Apparently the guy is a patsy/decoy/persona, but these goons continue trying to use the same tired storyline - that he's in love with me and has a rich friend stalking me or getting me on the list, that he's still involved with an ex (who's profile is CLEARLY a fake also) so that I would be "jealous." Jealous of what? Even if he were real, he's a perp who should spend eternity in h***. But it's like they won't budge - they want me to believe something that I can prove isn't real. It's bizarre - as if they were scratched records - over and over again. It's almost laughable if it weren't for the fact that they are hurting us with weapons and interfering with our real friendships etc.

Anonymously Given (not verified)

at 12:17 on May 30th, 2010

Most people think of the internet as the wide open range, where the deer and the buffalo roam. Actually, such a fantasy has never related very closely to reality. All of our messages go through the tiny little pipes of net companies - many of which were once heavily regulated monopolies (back in the day). Sure, the breakup of the monopolies spread the pie around a little bit, to newer entities, and it became (theoretically) more difficult to stop or adulterate traffic because it could be routed through networks owned by those newer entities who had been given slices of the (network) pie. However; the past ten years has seen the addition of "choke point" monitoring systems at critical junctures - apparently under the auspices of special contractors protected by Patriot act - but under the dark cloud of the NSL era, how could we know? In any case, if one contractor controlled all of the choke point monitors, and those monitors eventually were to acquire controller functionality, then such a contractor could make sure that alternate routes were never available for transit to blacklisted addresses. It takes little imagination to see a gradual morphing of the "monitor" to the "control" function - and in the case of black budget contractors - such a thing could even happen outside of legitimate government control.

Scrivener

at 14:03 on May 30th, 2010

That's why my comments here are intended for insiders and their superiors, who finally have recognized the internal threat of an unconstitutional, extrajudicial shadow government that's been enabled by their naivety and lack of superindendence.

I have come to the conclusion that some former and current CIA officials who now hold high positions in government are going to save this nation from a military-security coup that's been engineered primarily by agencies other than the CIA --which was the Bush administration's whipping boy on the torture issue, while the REAL torture was being administered via microwave/laser electromagnetics. The whole waterboarding thing was one but psy op to hide the REAL torture, IMO.

And now the officials at the directorate level are realizing that they also have a MUTINY to contend with -- that their own psy ops ground troops are coming to the defense of constitutional rights. And that's what's going to take down this entire extrajudicial Gestapo....

...more and more of the foot soldiers are saying, by their actions, "¡No mas!"

They are the true patriots, and they will be rewarded for their bravery by the superiors of the superiors of their superiors!

Semper fidelis -- to the Constitution, not to the rogue bureaucrats who are this nation's true subversive element. The shadow government rogues are going down -- and will face the bar of justice for their crimes against humanity and the Constitution. My prediction. Take it to the bank.

batvette

at 14:28 on May 30th, 2010

Fantasize much? Naw...

There is not a bit of fact in any of that. Delusions of Grandeur.

Hmmm (not verified)

at 15:34 on May 30th, 2010

Vic a megalomaniac? Naw...

Vic's a geniune hero, and a genius.

But, how about the guy who came up with the idea that if barber shops start collecting and sending their hair clipping to the gulf; that all that hair can be used to clean up the oil spill? The perp media thought that guy was a brilliant hero and a genius. Just goes to show.

Remember the Mayan Calendar doomsday date of 2012? Well, it's not too far away...

batvette

at 02:27 on May 31st, 2010

It was meant in the sense that without any basis he imagines a great battle being waged in the highest levels of government, a tug of war between entities with his own life's fortunes hanging in the balance. He even sees people he thinks are involved in his own community having influence on these people.

Vic a hero. Yeah. Care to defend those six points I posted earlier one by one? Doubtful.

Genius? Whatever. Anyone who actually reads what he posts knows better.

But I'll be direct. Review my post of 00:32 on April 23rd, 2010 here:

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-net-political-speech-targeted-americans

And explain why this is not a blatant lie and/or complete stupidity, either of which only fuels criticism of TI's suffering from mental illness.

Hmmm (not verified)

at 08:24 on May 31st, 2010

I can't explain or defend it batvette, but it seems that Vic is getting results anyways. For proof, look at his April 25 article:

"Someone, some American hero, must tell Barack Obama that he must FIRE the director of the U.S. Secret Service"

batvette

at 13:31 on May 31st, 2010

Mark Sullivan still holds the position he's had since 2006 as of the time of this writing.

http://www.secretservice.gov/director.shtml

The only "results" Vic is achieving is leaving an enormous permanent log of foolishness and willful stupidity across the internet that will inevitably be used against all TI's as they attempt activism on this, to discredit them all as needing professional help for mental illness.

Whether he is a real nutjob or just being paid to look like one is beyond my knowledge and it really doesn't matter, the damage is the same. It affects my future and I will dutifully pursue this issue as long as need be.

Hmmm (not verified)

at 17:49 on May 30th, 2010

"...barber shops start collecting and sending their hair clipping to the gulf..."

Oh yeah, and Fed-Ex has promised to ship all that hair to the Gulf for free - to clean up an oil spill twice the size of New Jersey. Hee hee.

Now THAT sounds like a Fantasy and Delusions of Grandeur.

batvette

at 02:34 on May 31st, 2010

VIC WHAT IS PROJECT GENEVA. EXPLAIN THE SOURCE OR BASIS OF THIS OFT REPEATED CLAIM. DENY IT HAS NO BASIS AND YOU KNOW THIS BUT SPREAD THIS DISINFO TO GIVE TI'S FALSE HOPE.

Anonymously Given (not verified)

at 05:44 on May 31st, 2010

You know, Понекогаш едноставно сите грчки на мене. Веројатно е тоа "Намерата на perp контролори на интернет, нели?

batvette

at 13:17 on May 31st, 2010

I don't think so. Могао би бити, али су они заиста перпс, или једноставно глупо будале? Ми смо наш сопствени најгори непријатељ!

Mark Twain (not verified)

at 05:41 on June 1st, 2010

Egads. Ustashka Vojnica! That explains America's descent into Fascism. Computer-perps are descendants of Croatian Nazi sympathizers.

multilingual (not verified)

at 15:46 on June 1st, 2010

I'm pretty sure that was Serbian. Not that I could tell the difference from the US, but over there them's probably "fightin' words". "Let's fight!" "them's fightin' words!"

TI (not verified)

at 07:12 on June 1st, 2010

George Carlin's wake up call - to you batvette. www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q And what's really pathetic is that they trick thousands of the little guys -- the dispossessed -- to do their bidding by gangstalking.