Obama: Take Down Fusion Center Gestapo, Fire Secret Service Boss

" ... successful juicy on-screen (or on-stage) relationship ... "  Are you really, really sure that this is a quote from a respectable? newspaper?  Maybe that's how they are in Chicago?

The computer-perps wreak havoc with the sequence of the thread by inserting their comments in the thread wherever they want. They do this to retain the "upper hand" (they think) over genuine commentators. The computer-perps also deliberately insert wild, lengthy spiels -- to bury useful comments further back in the thread. When the computer-perps make several wacko comments in a row, the casual reader not only is repelled by the wacko logic but is discouraged from searching for the genuine comments.

This "John in San Diego" is everywhere.  He's one of the few intelligent ones and might fool some at first, but he's not a TI.  I read some of his posts on another good GS site last night and other days, and he was talking a pretty good game.  Then I saw this.  It gets easier and easier to spot these people every day.  All you have to do is ask yourself, "Why would this (or ANY) person(s) - busy with an actual life - spend all day, every day hitting every Gang Stalking-related forum, inciting heated, petty arguments, and deliberately creating a smoke screen of these ongoing petty arguments, and working SO HARD to gaslight the stories of suffering at the hands of torture and harassment, if he (they) weren't contracted to do so?"  Search on "batvette" and see how many forums this guy frequents.  No one who works has that kind of time!  It strikes me that being lured into a debate with any of these people is a waste of a TI's very valuable time, and who knows how much any of us has left.  They WANT to waste your time all day every day on their petty squabbling points.  The other dead giveaway is the hostility and name-calling.  It's classic Saul Alinsky, and common to every Perpetrator, internet or otherwise.  The interesting thing to me about most TIs is how intelligent, reasonable and, yes, GENTLE they all seem, by and large.  Must drive the Perps batvette - I mean batshit.  The best bet of any group of actual TIs is to completely ignore these Cyber Mobbers and their attempts to hook you.  Starving them out of any forum is the best revenge.  By the way, the comments a few days back about never-ending construction are right on.  I have lived in Cardiff, CA, for the past five years, and I can count the days on one hand there hasn't been some kind of loud construction.  The days they don't have any, they actually hire a couple of illegals to hide somewhere nearby, and hammer a piece of wood or metal for hours on end.  One guy actually sat there in front of me for a couple of days and hammered the side of his white government van!!  Every single house within sight has been MAJORLY renovated, and filled with an endless stream of rotating, paid Gang Stalkers.  There ain't NO WAY those motley, dirty, drug dealing scumbags can afford these million dollar homes, let alone the renovations to upgrade them.  They report to "work" in staggered shifts, wearing sweats and pajamas, and the sheer numbers targeting ONE PERSON are astonishing.  Census workers get paid $21+ an hour, so I'd assume this human garbage get at least that much, plus benefits.The City of Encinitas has plagued me with endless work to the trail next to my office, and the smirking illegals employed by them love to goad me, while I'm working, with their ridiculous, bone-headed street theater.  Among other things, they erected a fence to protect walkers from the drainage ditch which is reasonable, but took more than a week.  The day after they finished the fence, a gang stalker in a government truck deliberately backed into it, breaking the fence, just so they would have to take the next several days to fix it!!  NO ONE has ANY reason to back up on that trail, and if I didn't have video of this, even I wouldn't believe it.Clearly, money is absolutely no object, they've spent literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on me alone (which is ridiculous, but true) and it's an appalling and outrageous waste of American tax dollars.  Referencing my former statement about starving them out, the best thing the American people could ever do is simply cut off the money supply.  So, government spending is out of control?  Stop paying taxes and see how fast the gang stalking "jobs" of obsessively nosey ass-sitting dry up.  My theory is that the health care bill was created to TAKE the tax money NOW that they KNOW people aren't going to want to pay when the country finally wakes up to what's really happening.  Why else would they be in such a hurry to get the money immediately, threatening JAIL if they don't get it, yet not promise any kind of actual change until 2014?  FOUR YEARS of using tax payer money, and believe me, it has NOTHING to do with health care or our well being.  Has anyone actually read the 2500+ pages of that thing???I'm quite sure I will be treated, within minutes of posting this, to a long convoy of police and military helicopters violently and viciously swarming my roof.  Oh, that and the volume of round-the-clock shrieking in my ears will be turned up full blast, and then tonight I will be cooked like a boneless chicken breast and my heart wildly raced for me while I try to sleep.

Scrivener, I haven't read everything you've written, but you sound credible to me, and in fact I have MUCH in common with you, including through-the-wall surveillance, which takes a LOT of getting used to.  Knowing that half the town are either sitting there watching every private moment live, or viewing captured video clips when they are done with their daily street stalking.  At the end of January this year, a frenzied team of bucket utility trucks with cherry pickers were SWARMING my house all day, for a whole week, "working" on the transformers on both sides of the house.  At the same time, my brand-new downstairs "neighbor" ALSO had a convoy of unmarked, white service trucks and vans, doing EXTENSIVE work in her unit.  The day after all these trucks finished their "work," the shrieking in my head (which apparently only I can hear) and all kinds of other electronic torture began, and my husband and I IMMEDIATELY began to experience BIZARRE heath crises.  Additionally, my husband is suddenly having very bizarre, ELABORATE and TECHNICAL conversations every single night in his sleep, with "someone."  Last night freaked me out, it almost sounded like an alien language it was so technical.  I repeated some of the things in the morning, and asked him what the heck he was talking about in his sleep, and he said he had no idea.  This is EVERY NIGHT now.  Even a year ago, I wouldn't have believed any of this (or you!) but there isn't much in the way of conspiracy theories that I dismiss out of hand any more.  Please keep in mind this is government-sponsored through the DOD or military, and it's organized at the local level by your local Police and Sheriff, using the Community Oriented Police, which are popping up in every town in the nation.  They are the modern day Nazi "brown shirts."  Search on "Encinitas Sheriff," and you will find their program here is called "COPP."  Search various university websites and you will find most of THEM have student "civilian police" recruitment programs.  Perpetrators can be anyone, but the ones who will carry out the heavy-duty stalking and "policing" of the near future are the 20- to 30-somethings who are largely already lawbreakers or have criminal records, and are the perfect impressionable age for beating the humanity out of them as a group.  It won't be long before there aren't many of us still around to remember what it was like when personal liberties wasn't a four-letter word.  The police won't help you.  The ACLU won't help you.  The government won't help you.  If you DO try to take legal action of any kind and DON'T have your efforts blocked and sabotaged, anyone who makes the mistake of helping you will be demoted, fired, transferred, or simply "disappear."  If you want to understand the vast breadth of this gang stalking thing, and its roots, set up Google alerts on gang stalking, electronic harassment and directed energy weapons, and it will lead you to ALL the facets of this nightmare.  Bilderberg Group.  Free Masons.  Cointelpro.  HAARP Installation.  Project Monarch.  On and on.  Those crazy conspiracy theorists aren't looking so very crazy right about now.  There is a great series on the Military Channel called "Hitler's Bodyguards," and in watching how the Nazi party accomplished what it did from basically a very small group of people, how the citizens were manipulated psychologically to support it, you will see the unmistakable parallels to exactly what is happening to this country.  From the economy to the military to corporations, the banks, and even the environment.

- "This "John in San Diego" is everywhere."

I have noticed that also. As are many of his cohorts.

Maybe you have noticed that some of them on this site have taken to calling some of my posts "bizzare", in an attempt to steal MY thoughts and REPLACE them with their own. They despise independent thought, and original ideas.

My pet theory is that they are developing technology to remove a person's thoughts in order to facilitate replacement with thoughts that are approved of by the "thought police".

In my opinion it's a classic example of "concrete thinking" on their part, as if their all reading from the same gang stalking playbook. .

I've also noticed that some of their posts are overly preoccupied with vague pseudoscientific and/or biblical ideas.

Vic,

Please Answer the questions:

Can you provide a reference to this "Project Geneva" you repeatedly mention?

and

What is this "clear evidence" of neighbors' involvement  you claim you can offer police but say they won't investigate?

Ladies and Germs..... I rest my case.  I've seen this "show me your evidence" looped argument SOOOOO many times.  Trust me Scrivener, the Perps have eagle-eye watchers of their own, and from what I see every day, they are in this virtual concentration camp right along side the TIs they are paid to destroy.  Also, just Googling (no other search engines) returns 440,000 hits.  I'd hardly classify that as marginal.

.....sorry.  Left out Googling "Vic Livingston," etc.

By the way - and this is likely the last time I will address you at all - I've been cyber mobbed by the BEST, and one of their most widely-used tactics to propitiously gain credibility on the internet is the "I'M SO TRANSPARENT / WHOLESOME / LIKABLE / KNOWLEDGEABLE" claim.  You are among the 1% of people on the internet publishing a map to your house and your family photos.  Of COURSE you are transparent!  You are a bought-and-sold programmed automaton with nothing else to lose!  You are being paid to prostitute your identity and your soul for a roof over your head and probably a bunch of drugs, too.  And don't kid yourself you aren't a beneficiary of the same electronic mind control techniques so viciously inflicted on your so-called "Targets."

What a tangled web. What I miss most of all, and this makes it really puzzling . . . is any sense of compassion or empathy. If you have been victimized by something for years it should make you more sensitive to the plight of others in a similar situation. It should have also made you a stronger person, able to pass what you've learned to those just beginning the struggle. There is a complete lack of that here. Any genuine target of these crimes will not be able to produce a 100% accurate account. There is just too much deceit being employed by our attackers to get the true picture entirely. In spite of that, there is no willingness to extend the benefit of the doubt. I cannot imagine any genuine victim spending so much energy trying to discredit fellow victims. Above all, that would neutralize any efforts you make to "fight" the injustice. All of your energy goes into fighting amongst yourselves. Our antagonists don't have to infiltrate these forums to start a fire, they merely add fuel to a fire already in progress. I'm sure all of this makes certain that such pogroms will have certain success. This infighting is all the proof they need. Rather than learning to rise above the thinking of our persecutors, we are exhibiting the same incivility and lack of respect for humanity.

- "Don't wrap up all your ire for the world and focus it at me."

Well Batvette, you sure pounded salt up my ass for only stating the obvious - that you've hijacked more threads on more Internet sites than an Iraqi suicide bomber. Are you and Scrivener having a contest?

You're also one half of the dynamic duo of Batvette and Scrivener. Engaged in an endless good cop, bad cop routine. Dedicated to confusing and confounding the issue of gang stalking once and for all. boff sock splatt zap zowie.

You know, there's a running gag on one of the radio stations in my area that the cops are going around harassing people. Breaking into people's houses and moving their doughnuts around in order to gaslight them, stealing their doughnuts, damaging their doughnuts, sometimes putting extra doughnuts in their doughnut boxes, things like that. (I think the police have secretly commandeered that radio station.)

Scrivener, of course, receives extra payment for his PR attempts to paint a friendly face on the FBI and the police. Is Scrivener making more money than you for this, Batvette? That's not fair, is it? But, then again, maybe it's because he has his masters degree in propaganda.

Now, don't take any of this personally, Batvette or Scrivener. I mean, how could it be personal when we're not really sure whether you're individuals, or 10 different people posting under those identities.

Batvette and Scrivener. sock whamm zamm ooooff kapow z-zwap eee-yow.

When they said "brains" I thought they said "trains" and I got on a bus and got the hell  out of town. I tried to post impersonating batvette and they wanted a password! The nerve of these people! I am soooo dumb.