Obama's Gandhigiri

by Mritunjay | October 3, 2009 at 03:54 pm
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Barack Obama dinner with Mahatma Gandhi
"His teachings and ideals, shared with Martin Luther King Jr. on his 1959 pilgrimage to India, transformed American society through our civil rights movement," Obama said on the occasion of the birth anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi. Americans owe enormous gratitude to Gandhi, he said.

The US President Barrack Obama had voiced similar sentiments last month in response to a question about with whom he would like to have dinner whether dead or alive, during his discussion with 9th graders at Wakefield High school in Airlington Virginia where he gave a National speech welcoming students back to school.  Obama said that he would like to have his dinner with Mahatma Gandhi who was his real hero.

Obama said that on behalf of the American people he wants to express appreciation for the life and lessons of Mahatma Gandhi on the anniversary of his birth. He also voiced the need for people to learn from Gandhi's non-violence in this age of violence and terrorism.

Obama was en route to Denmark to pitch for Chicago's candidature as host for 2016 Olympics.

Copy of Obama's message:

Statement by President Obama on the occasion of Mahatma Gandhi's birth anniversaryOn behalf of the American people, I want to express appreciation for the life and lessons of Mahatma Gandhi on the anniversary of his birth. This is an important moment to reflect on his message of non-violence, which continues to inspire people and political movements across the globe.We join the people of India in celebrating this great soul who lived a life dedicated to the cause of advancing justice, showing tolerance to all, and creating change through non-violent resistance.Americans owe an enormous measure of gratitude to the Mahatma. His teachings and ideals, shared with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on his 1959 pilgrimage to India, transformed American society through our civil rights movement. The America of today has its roots in the India of Mahatma Gandhi and the nonviolent social action movement for Indian independence which he led.Tomorrow, as we remember the Mahatma on his birthday, we must renew our commitment to live his ideals and to celebrate the dignity of all human beings.


Marking the International Day of Non-Violence, President of the UN General Assembly Ali Abdussalam Treki, released a Mahatma Gandhi stamp on the occasion of his 140th birth anniversary. The United Nations Postal Administration released the $1 stamp designed by Miami-based artist Ferdie Pacheco. The stamp shows the Gandhi painted in red, blue and gold. Susan Rice, the US Permanent Representative to the UN was also present during the ceremony and spoke about Gandhi's role.

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Roy C

All well and good to pay homage to Gandhi, but Obama's sense of gratitude could be improved and extended.

In fact, American Henry David Thoreau influenced Gandhi. Thoreaus' essay on Civil Disobedience did it. Henry David Thoreau was not just a theoretician. He practiced Civil Disobedience.

This is one of these things that just smacks of some semi-deliberate lack of appreciation of his country on the part of this president.

Don't tell me he never heard this while attending an Ivy League school. I heard it in my first year in a Quaker school. I was ten at the time.

Thoreau's influence on Gandhi, King

last updated: January 16, 2009 12:53:48 AM

It is that time of year when students and adults throughout the United States honor that great American, Martin Luther King Jr. But what is left out is the influence Mahatma Gandhi had on King and more so the influence Henry David Thoreau had on Gandhi and King.

Gandhi was inspired by the writings of Thoreau, especially his "Civil Disobedience," which Gandhi called a "master treatise" and which was the blueprint Gandhi used to bring the British Empire to its knees. King, inspired by Gandhi's success, read and applied Thoreau's "Theory of Civil Disobedience" to the civil rights movement of the early '60s.

By following the philosophy and practical uses laid out in the "Civil Disobedience," King was able to change 250 years of Jim Crow laws, grant black Americans the civil rights they were due and put a massive hole in the ugly body of racism in America.

In our dire economic times, Americans should purchase a copy of Thoreau's "Walden," which not only contains "Civil Disobedience" but also contains many writings, most notably his writing on "Economy," which should be mandatory reading for all of us.

BROOKS JUDD

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Roy C

Some further information and the link to a page where the essay itself can be found:

While Walden can be applied to almost anyone's life, "Civil Disobedience" is like a venerated architectural landmark: it is preserved and admired, and sometimes visited, but for most of us there are not many occasions when it can actually be used. Still, although seldom mentioned without references to Gandhi or King, "Civil Disobedience" has more history than many suspect. In the 1940's it was read by the Danish resistance, in the 1950's it was cherished by those who opposed McCarthyism, in the 1960's it was influential in the struggle against South African apartheid, and in the 1970's it was discovered by a new generation of anti-war activists. The lesson learned from all this experience is that Thoreau's ideas really do work, just as he imagined they would.

"Thoreau was a great writer, philosopher, poet, and withal a most practical man, that is, he taught nothing he was not prepared to practise in himself. ... He went to gaol for the sake of his principles and suffering humanity. His essay has, therefore, been sanctified by suffering. Moreover, it is written for all time. Its incisive logic is unanswerable." - Mohandas Gandhi

"... when, in the mid-1950's, the United States Information Service included as a standard book in all their libraries around the world a textbook ... which reprinted Thoreau's 'Civil Disobedience,' the late Senator Joseph McCarthy succeeded in having that book removed from the shelves — specifically because of the Thoreau essay." - Walter Harding, in The Variorum Civil Disobedience

"I became convinced that noncooperation with evil is as much a moral obligation as is cooperation with good. No other person has been more eloquent and passionate in getting this idea across than Henry David Thoreau. As a result of his writings and personal witness, we are the heirs of a legacy of creative protest." - Martin Luther King, Jr, Autobiography

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Edmund Jenks

A good point in time post --- great follow-on remarks!

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Roy C

What this says about Obama is that even if we get something right here in America, and even if it becomes the inspiration of two of the most inspirational human beings in the  20th century, either he has been around teachers who systematically ignored this, or he has chosen to re-interpret the whole thing his way.

You know, I am not against sitting down and talking to the dictators and all that, and I am not against owning our shadow, as Jung would call it, but this is Obama's shadow, a real lack of appreciation of what good we have done the world.

That or the man is as ignorant as the day is long. I am totally, totally angry and disgusted with Obama.

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Rory Cripps

ROY: No way! You mean to tell me that a Dead White European American actually had a positive influence on Obama?

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Roy C

Yes, and either unbeknownst to Barrack or unacknowledged by him.

I go with the second.

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Mritunjay

Roy I understand and appreciate your point around the statement. Also thank you for adding to the post which adds to the quality and provides a holistic view to the story.

Thanks a ton!

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Roy C

Thanks. I am a real admirer of Mahatma Gandhi and I have been since I was young. I am more than happy that Gandhi saw fit to use Thoreau's approach.

Transcendentalism was an extremely important part of emerging American culture. The idea that Obama knows nothing about it is amazing, if really possible, as the whole thing was partially a protest of the kind of religion taught at the Harvard Divinity School and included tge biggest names in 19th century culture, such as Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Thoreau also invented the common graphite pencil that we use today all over the world.

The "Transcendentalists" :

Transcendentalism was a group of new ideas in literature, religion, culture, and philosophy that emerged in New England in the early to middle 19th century. It is sometimes called American transcendentalism to distinguish it from other uses of the word transcendental.

Transcendentalism began as a protest against the general state of culture and society, and in particular, the state of intellectualism at Harvard and the doctrine of the Unitarian church taught at Harvard Divinity School. Among transcendentalists' core beliefs was an ideal spiritual state that 'transcends' the physical and empirical and is only realized through the individual's intuition, rather than through the doctrines of established religions. Prominent transcendentalists included Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, Orestes Brownson, William Henry Channing, James Freeman Clarke, Christopher Pearse Cranch, Convers Francis, Margaret Fuller, Frederick Henry Hedge, Sylvester Judd, Elizabeth Peabody, George Ripley, Amos Bronson Alcott, and Jones Very.[1] 


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Roy C

Thoreau read the Bhagavad Ghita, by the way, every morning. America was already multi-cultural back then.


In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavat Geeta, since whose composition years of the gods have elapsed, and in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial; and I doubt if that philosophy is not to be referred to a previous state of existence, so remote is its sublimity from our conceptions. I lay down the book and go to my well for water, and lo! there I meet the servant of the Brahmin, priest of Brahma, and Vishnu and Indra, who still sits in his temple on the Ganges reading the Vedas, or dwells at the root of a tree with his crust and water-jug. I meet his servant come to draw water for his master, and our buckets as it were grate together in the same well. The pure Walden water is mingled with the sacred water of the Ganges.


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Mritunjay

Mahatma Gandhi on Srimad Bhagwat Geeta and it's influence on his life:

The Gita is the universal mother. She turns away nobody. Her door is wide open to anyone who knocks. A true votary of Gita does not know what disappointment is. He ever dwells in perennial joy and peace that passeth understanding. But that peace and joy come not to skeptic or to him who is proud of his intellect or learning. It is reserved only for the humble in spirit who brings to her worship a fullness of faith and an undivided singleness of mind. There never was a man who worshipped her in that spirit and went disappointed. I find a solace in the Bhagavad-Gita that I miss even in the Sermon on the Mount. When disappointment stares me in the face and all alone I see not one ray of light, I go back to the Bhagavad-Gita. I find a verse here and a verse there , and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming tragedies -- and my life has been full of external tragedies -- and if they have left no visible or indelible scar on me, I owe it all to the teaching of Bhagavad-Gita.

http://www.kamat.com/mmgandhi/mkggita.htm

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Mritunjay

Thank you for sharing Gandhi's musing on the Bhagavad-Gita.  I, too, have found comfort there in the past and the same with Thoreau.  Truly men of peace with a vision into the soul that is at once settling in contentment, yet not yielding to their core principles.

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Roy C

Thanks, again, for that one.

I am going to have to read it myself after reading that paragraph.

Amazing what kindred spirits the two men were, Thoreau and Gandhi.


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Mritunjay

They were Roy. If only we all became "humans" our world would be a better place to live. No need for wars and no place for hatred or terror. Have a good time reading it.

Cheers!

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Habib Hassn

 Very nice good wordings, Mahata Gandhi was great leader and preacher of peace.

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SandyG

Nice story and good contribution. I learnt a few things I never knew about these great men.Thank you all guys.

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Barry Artiste

Well for Obama, Gandhi maybe Dandhi, but Politics will rot your teeth.

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