Obama's Haunting: A Surge, Then an Early Out

by Susan Marie Kovalinsky | December 6, 2009 at 07:57 am
239 views | 23 Recommendations | 8 comments

Photos

tony_obama_phil

tony_obama_phil

see larger image

uploaded by netzoo

Surge now,  and an early out.  

Quote

Much less confidence in Obama - and a great deal of worry that his left wing base, especially if not fed the socialist meat of socialized medicine - might start to insist upon an early withdrawal with the threat of backing a third party if not given the desired defeat of the United States in war. Ultimately, it comes down to this: can the military win the war before the liberals force us to lose it?
Blogs for Victory

It is reported in the New York Times that President Obama,  on an afternoon when he was holding an Afghanistan review,  had just come from Arlington National Cemetery where he had wandered among the war graves.  

 Already,  his idea of a troop surge leading to an early withdrawal,  for all its self-contradiction,  had taken hold of him.    

In the White House Situation room,  viewing a bell chart of the troop surge which spread for years on the page,  he remarked with force,  "I want that moved to the left.  Surge in, and early out. "  

His advisors have said that he was haunted by the toll the war was taking on the US Troops,  on young American lives,  and had been deeply bothered by visiting the Walter Reed Army hospital.  Said the President after one of those visits,  "I don't want to be going to Walter Reed for the next 8 years".  

Thus can be seen the paradox and self -contradiction which may lead to trouble:   " A surge,  and then an early out. "  One can almost see the stunning logic in it,  while at the same time wondering if it isn't too perfect and far too easy to hope that all could run on smooth rails.   Already US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has qualified this idea of an exit strategy which would begin to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan by January 2011 as something that is conditional,  and she qualified  -  and contradicted  -  the President's statement with her own,  as did Gibbs,  starting by calling the exit a "transition":   

HILLARY CLINTON: We're not talking about an exit strategy or a drop dead deadline. What we're talking about is an assessment that in January 2011, we can begin a transition. A transition to hand off -- responsibility to the Afghan forces.

ROBERT GATES: We're not talking about an abrupt withdrawal. We're talking about something that will take place over a period of time. Our commanders think that these additional forces, and one of the reasons for the President's decision to try and accelerate their deployment is-- is the view that this extended surge has the opportunity to make significant gains in terms of reversing the momentum of the Taliban, denying them control of Afghan territory, and degrading their capabilities.

And Great Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said that although he admires the US President's pledge to deploy troops, he believes promises of early withdrawal and timetables set up are a mistake. (See Gordon Brown rejects early withdrawal exit strategy.)

Quote

"President Obama made the right choice, but we must see the mission through" .
General Sir Richard Dannatt.
Advertisement
recommend This comment thread is now closed
2
Hugh Askew

Little different that the way i read it, but we shall see, no doubt.

2
Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

This is the problem any leader deals with when he commits young men and women to war.  Any leader that doesn't is heartless.  Wishful thinking doesn't get the job done though. 

1
Susan Marie Kovalinsky

Yes,  and W Bush,  I think,  never cared regarding Iraq.  At least Obama has a heart,  but yes,  what difference will it really make ?  : (

1
snuffysmith

Frank Rich: Obama’s Logic Is No Match for Afghanistan


Frank Rich writes in conclusion:

"The notion that we are still fighting in Afghanistan because the 9/11 attacks originated there is based on the fallacy that our terrorist enemies are so stupid they have remained frozen in place since 2001. Most Americans know that they are no more static than we are. Obama acknowledged as much in citing such other Qaeda havens as Somalia (the site of a devastating insurgent suicide bombing on Thursday) and Yemen.

Americans want our country to be secure. Most want Obama to succeed. And so we hope that we won’t get bogged down in Afghanistan while our adversaries regroup elsewhere, that the casualties and costs can be contained, that the small, primitive Afghan Army (ravaged by opium, illiteracy, incompetence and a 25 percent attrition rate) will miraculously stand up so we can stand down. We want to believe that Obama’s marvelous powers of reason can check a ruthless enemy and reverse decades of tragic history in one of the world’s most treacherous backwaters.

That’s the bet Obama made. As long as our wars remain sacrifice-free, safely buried in the back pages behind Tiger Woods and reality television stunts, he’ll be able to pursue it. But I keep returning to the crashers at the gates, who have no respect for our president’s orderliness of mind and action. All it takes is a few of them at the wrong time and wrong place, whether in Afghanistan or Pakistan or America or sites unknown, and all bets will be off."

1
snuffysmith

U.S. Army Capt. Max Hanlin meets with village elders in Rajankala, Kandahar province, Afghanistan, Nov. 28, 2009. U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Francisco V. Go

1
snuffysmith

Counterinsurgency Incoherence A Simple Truth: The Afghan People Have No Exit Strategy By Steve Schippert | December 2, 2009
http://threatswatch.org/commentary/2009/12/counterinsurgency-incoherence/

1
Babel-Fish

Just one point about blogs for victory....

Socialist - America politics is not anywhere near true socialism its right against not so right. lol

UK however is left against not so right, it is at present run by socialist.

Just one point about Brown.

"There is no question of us withdrawing our British troops until the point where we are sure Afghans can take over security control themselves," said Brown. "We will continue to have our troops until that point."

He has not ruled out an early out, Obama plan was expressed in a political minded way, to show he wants the war to end as quick as possible its the only way to get the troops home, we don't want another Vietnam.  


0
Susan Marie Kovalinsky

Thanks for those important clarifications, BF.  

This story was created over 3 months ago, the comment thread is now closed.

NowPublic on Facebook

What is NowPublic?

NowPublic lets people work together to cover news events around the world.

Find out more

Crowd Power

a211423
First Flagged at 8:15 AM, Dec 6, 2009 by a211423
These members have powered this story:

Related Stories

Recommendations (23)

Most recently recommended by:
 

closeSign in to NowPublic

is reporting from