"October Surprise" - Linked to Georgian Crisis

by merlingraycat | September 4, 2008 at 07:32 pm
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Remember the "October Surprise"?  A device used usually by the Republicans during a presidential election to help get the party in power stay in power.


There's an article in the Anchorage Daily News referencing an "October Surprise"  which may be coming down the pike.  The article references the "Georgian Crisis" which most of our press coverage seems to put all the blame for the crisis on the Russians but but on closer inspection, it would seem that the Georgian government is the responsible party in starting the conflict. 

The article suggests a connection to John McCain who was in touch with the Georgian government  several times a week leading up to the crisis. 

Oh and Vice President Cheney just spent some time in Georgia promising them our support.  Wonder what that is all about?  And our Administration just promised the Georgian government a Billion dollars in aid to rebuild their country.

And as I am listening to John McCain's acceptance speech tonight, he gives more weight to the Georgian crisis.  Is he trying to throw some more fear into the American people about a possible conflict with Russia?

See the article in the Alaskan Daily News to get the full story.


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joellerose

This post is a joke, right?  The term "October Surprise" originated in October, 1980 when rumors started that then Democratic President Carter was negotiating for the release of the Iranian hostages to ensure his victory over Reagan in that November's election.

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dunkelberg

Close, but no cigar.

1968 Humphrey vs. Nixon

Citing progress with the Paris peace talks, U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson announced to the nation on March 31, 1968 that he had ordered a cessation of "all air, naval, and artillery bombardment of North Vietnam" above the 20th parallel. Additionally, and quite surprisingly, Johnson stated that he would not accept the Democratic nomination for a second term. As the race between Humphrey and Nixon was winding down by October 1968, with the polls indicating Nixon was in the lead, Johnson announced on October 31 a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam, once again citing that progress had been made in the Paris negotiations. Johnson hoped that the negotiations would bear fruit by the time of the election, and the Vietnam War would be officially over. With the war continuing, many liberal voters would not vote for Humphrey, and Nixon won by only 500,000 popular votes (though he did gain 110 more electoral votes than Humphrey--301 to Humphrey's 191). Bombing above the 20th parallel in North Vietnam would not resume again until May 1972 with Operation Linebacker. A vast majority of the sorties that had been flown over North Vietnam would be shifted to Vietnamese strongholds in Laos and later in Cambodia.

[edit] 1972 Nixon vs. McGovern

With less than a month remaining until the election between incumbent president Richard Nixon and Democrat George McGovern, Nixon's Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, announced that "peace [was] at hand" in Vietnam. Nixon had vowed to end the unpopular Vietnam War four years earlier, but had failed to either cease hostilities or gradually bring about an end to the war. Nixon had essentially been assured an easy reelection victory against McGovern, but Kissinger's statement increased Nixon's already high standing with the public. This proved true when the President defeated McGovern by a 20-point popular vote margin in one of the largest landslides in American election history.

It is a generic term that can be used to apply to any party.  Actually, it now is applied to situations that are not even elections.


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dunkelberg

Oh, and for Carter...the story is not quite the way you offer it.

The October Surprise conspiracy was an alleged plot that claimed representatives of the 1980 Ronald Reagan presidential campaign had conspired with Islamic Republic of Iran to delay the release of 52 Americans held hostage in Tehran until after the 1980 U.S. Presidential election. In exchange for their cooperation, the United States would supply weapons to Iran as well as unfreeze Iran's monetary assets being held by the US government.

Jimmy Carter had been attempting to deal with the Iran hostage crisis and the hostile regime of the Ayatollah Khomeini for nearly a year. Those who assert that a deal had been made allege that certain Republicans with CIA connections, including George H. W. Bush, arranged to have the hostages held through October until Reagan could defeat Carter in early November and then be released, thereby preventing an “October surprise” from the Carter administration. The hostages were released the day of Reagan's inauguration, twenty minutes after his inaugural address.

After twelve years of news reports looking into the alleged conspiracy, both houses of the US Congress held separate inquiries into the issue, and journalists from sources such as Newsweek and The New Republic looked into the charges. Both Congressional inquires, as well as the majority of investigative reports, found that the charges were groundless. Nevertheless, several individuals, most notably former Iranian President Abolhassan Bani-Sadr and former Reagan-Bush campaign and White House staffer Barbara Honegger, continue to claim otherwise.

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joellerose

The operative words from your above comment were, "found the charges groundless".  Even though Wikipedia is a source most people consider not reliable, the fact that these charges were groundless undermines whatever point you were trying to make.

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dunkelberg

Oh you mean that you got the facts wrong?

I didn't say anything was proven except that you got the historical facts wrong, both in ignoring the Reagan part of the history you presented, and in the origin.

There is no philosophical bent behind my argument.

The operative words were "you were wrong".


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joellerose

I've watched politics closely all my life, and lots of things happen to happen in October, as you point out (starting with the activities of a Democrat, not a Republican as the poster alleges), but the first time I heard the term, "October Surprise"  was in 1980, and it was in reference to the possible release of the hostages.  That it was also used to refer to an alleged plot that never existed is beside the point.  The "October Surprise" never happened either, as we all know.

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dunkelberg

Interesting thoughts, but I believe this could use an opinion tag.

Thanks!


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at 05:47 on September 5th, 2008

merlingraycat, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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merlingraycat

dunkelberg and Paschen:  Thanks for the comments.  I just threw the info out there in case we had an"October Surprise" this year. 

Nice to see it generated some controversy.



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merlingraycat

to Joellerose:  Stay tuned for an "October Surprise" in 2008!

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merlingraycat

Thanks moonwolf.  You make a compelling point!

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