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Over 200 Arrested After Montreal Protests
Montreal police say seventeen people are facing charges after a tumultuous protest march against police brutality. Police stated that 221 people were arrested after rioters caused $200,000 in damages to stores and hotels, cars and police cars.
Police ruled the demonstration illegal shortly after it began at 2pm on Sunday because some marchers held objects that could be used as weapons. About 400 people marched in downtown Montreal.
Seventeen people are to be arraigned at a Montreal courthouse Monday morning on charges related to Sunday’s chaotic march through downtown Montreal against police brutality, in which police arrested 221 people.Police estimated protesters caused $200,000 in damages to store and hotel windows, cars and police cars. Two police officers suffered minor injuries.
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at 05:55 on March 16th, 2009
This is some what strange, a protest against brutality ends in rioting.
at 06:33 on March 16th, 2009
Yes that was strange. I was suprised on how much anger some of these protesters had towards the police. Apparently this annual protest turns out violent each year.
at 07:43 on March 16th, 2009
It does not seem such protests would help get rid of police brutality when all they really do is incite it.
at 08:48 on March 16th, 2009
This is what happens when you have different social movements within one large beheaded mob.
at 09:21 on March 16th, 2009
It's a vicious circle.
Aaronfoley has contributed a photo to this story.
at 08:56 on March 16th, 2009
I guess it's hard to tell, unless you live there, who's at fault. But it always turns violent, this one particular march, and they have many.
at 09:28 on March 16th, 2009
Sounds like mob brutality.
at 12:01 on March 16th, 2009
I have to agree with Blue Crush on this one. As none of us were in Montreal during the protest, it's hard to lay blame from outside.
Having previously lived in Montreal for many years, I can attest to the high levels of intimidation, aggression, and all too often unreported cases of physical violence and brutality enacted by Montreal police officers against civilians.
Law enforcement in the city has an unfortunately long history of discrimination and racial prejudice and a seemingly disproportionate lack of tolerance for protests that identify the police themselves as the ones who have incited or provoked violence.
The death of Mohamed Anas Bennis is just one of the most recent examples: http://nooneisillegal-montreal.blogspot.com/2009/02/montreal-gazette-police-union-trying-to.html
I would be interested to hear more about this story from people who were at Sunday's protest.
at 13:12 on March 16th, 2009
I was there. So was the rock that flew by a few inches from my face, while I took pictures. I was not for or against any party present, yet I was almost hurt by a projectile that was to hit, I suppose, an "enemy".
at 15:27 on March 16th, 2009
F*ckin losers! If they have a beef with the police they should take it out on the police. What did the hotel and store owners do to deserve being targetted by these idiots. I am no fan of police brutality but I hope these "protestors" got some well placed batton blows on their way to lockup. They should have to pay for every cent of damage they caused and then be subjust to some good old public humiliation.
at 10:28 on March 17th, 2009
This was during a 2008 student strike.
misterb has contributed a photo to this story.
at 10:45 on March 17th, 2009
I think it's pretty easy to condemn and call people losers in the comfort of your own house, it shows character.
On a more serious note, I was one of the arrested protesters and I would tend to say a few things that might help people understand what happened. First of all, when people say that the protest was stupid, they look at the actions of a few to condemn a whole, like a protest is some sort of borg-like hive-entity where everyone has agrees to everything. I'm not giving the cliché speech about "a few bad seeds" or whatever, I'm saying that neither police or protesters were perfect, and if you're one of those still looking for perfection and total integrity in the rest of the world, I suggest you take a look at yourself first.
About the "violence", well, people have to vent, I regret that some stupidly go out on those weaker than them when given the chance, it's an all too human flaw we all know about. Then again, like I said, during that protest in particular, people vent, people panic, there's all sorts of reactions, no wonder it goes somewhat wrong. But let it be known that before it really became violent, dispersion of the protest was called for by the organizers, twice, but the megaphone didn't get a sound higher than the plastic bullets, and the second time, anti-riot people took the megaphone from the organizers, they just came and...took it.
Also, the protest was originally meant to go in one direction, but the police blocked that direction...as it was that of their union offices (and let me tell you, cops around here can get away with just about anything very often), they simply forced the protest to go where all the rich hotels and shopping centers were...
And finally, about the arrest in itself, the cops have to arrest people, someone has to pay, someone has to be guilty, so they just take those who happen to be there, they're not necessarily protesters (I personnally know at least two persons who were just passers by, but rumor has it there were quite a lot, even journalists were arrested).
at 11:22 on March 17th, 2009
When protester damage private property unrelated to the object of their protest they lose all credibility with me. My sympathies are with those shop and car owners and not with you. My mind was open and your group's irresponsible actions made my mind up. Again, I hope those that participated in the private property damage are prosecuted and pay for their crimes.
at 12:50 on March 17th, 2009
I feel like you missed the point I was trying to make. You take protesters as one homogeneous group when they're not, you talk about "my group", when I don't belong to any, and what could I have said anyway..."hey, don't touch that car please, angry drunken teenager"? Furthermore, you take this only on a "first level" basis, without wondering why there is violence at those protests, entirely acknowledging the simplistic g.i.-joe-esque "bad things happen 'cause there's bad people". From what I read of you, you're just stating your opinion a second time, you could have replied the same thing and never have read what I wrote. I'll say it another time, just so you have less chances of missing it : I'm not saying the protesters were perfect, I'm just saying that if we're to understand the issue, we have to get out of stupidity-inducing dualities and stop either protester-bashing (like you do) and police-bashing (like some protesters and independant media do). Just trying to point who's right and who's wrong's nothing more than chest-stomping (me right!), there's a whole more to this than a one afternoon protest.
If I may assume a few things, you're a libertarian, and usually, libertarians believe in personal responsibility (for instance, you mention in your profile everyone individually taking care of the earth, which sounds, to me, like ecological personal responsibility), but in your comments, I see that you quickly ditch the individual responsibility logic aside to take on whole groups of people without distinction for individual. I'm just saying...
at 13:22 on March 17th, 2009
If you read my last sentence you will see that I call for "...those that participated in the private property damage are prosecuted and pay for their crimes." So I am being consistent with my basic belief in personal responsibility.
As for my references to "your group" I do not think it should be so easy for you and others (organizers particularly) to wash their hands of any responsibility for the results of the event they organized. I believe there is a principle in law that states that if a "reasonable man" could be expected to forsee the potential for damage (either personal or property) then that person bears some portion of responsibility for the actions that they put into motion.
Surely not all of the group are responsible for the violence but I also do not agree that a reasonable man could not fave forseen the risk of this event ending in violence. Let's face it, a riot was organized and a riot occured. I just want those responsible brought in front of our courts to answer for their actions. If that were to happen and your organizers were to publicly denounce their actions your cause might be better supported. In the future if you do not want a bomb to explode then do not be part of a group whose aim is to light the fuse.
at 14:01 on March 17th, 2009
Actually (you can't know as you weren't there), the organizers called for a non-violent protest, it was what they asked for and it was made very clear from the beginning (they made a whole point of their speech about that, asking people not to give cops any reasons to use violence themselves). So no, your argument doesn't work, as riot was not organized. When things started to look bad, they tried to call for dispersion, but the sound of their megaphone was covered by the sound of paint and plastic bullets being shot on the first occasion, on the second, the police simply took the megaphone away, so dispersion could not called. So it's not the organizers' fault either, I have personal issues with some of them, and yet, I can still see that they did what they could. Contrarily to popular belief, the same group has organized other protests (for other occasions, specific things I'll skip over) that went very well, everything was calm and peaceful, so I know fully well that unless they participated in the whole breaking people's cars and all, they're not much to blame.
As for the whole consistency thing, my point was that despite your saying you hope evildoers get batoned and everything, you condemn the whole group just as much ("your group's irresponsible actions").
at 14:18 on March 17th, 2009
You can't have it both ways. Either you are a group or you are not a group. If you are just a cadre of individuals acting without leadership then do not claim to be part of something larger. If you want to claim to be part of something larger and hence increase your profile, representation and influence then you must accept that those of us not part of your cause will expect that you will accept the responsibility as well as take the credit for the actions of your group. I guess it is kinda like the police against whom you protest. Not every single Montreal police officer is bad but you demonstrate against police rather than targetting specific members of the force. Isn't that just a bit hypocritical?
at 15:03 on March 17th, 2009
No, it isn't, it's pretty obvious you aren't here and never saw or was part of what happens, but specific events are named, specific officers as well. But it's also not meant to just point the finger at certain individuals, it's morethe kind of behaviors and what legal system has enabled those behaviors that is pointed out.
You see, every protester has his or her own reasons for attending the event, and you can't control those. Some are just pissed off and want to smash things, some are drunken angry kids (and boy, are those rational...), some are plain, normal people, some are communists, some anarchists, and so forth. Some are explicitly against the whole police force, not as individuals, but as a social function, some are against police impunity...I can't even say that all those who attend the protest have a single thing in common since some maybe just want to smash things randomly and raid small Asian-owned convenience stores. And as much as some would want to, you can't police the intentions of people or who attends the protest.
Finally, I think you confuse a single protest with either the whole of the people who believe in the cause (who, as I said previously, are diverse and do not necessarily have much in common) or the group responsible for the organization of the protest (a group who provides, all year long, help and legal support to victims of police brutality or impunity, who publishes material to inform people of their rights in front of the police and pushes to give justice to victims of police brutality and put an end to racial or social profiling). My main problem with what you say is that you seem to take on a protest with the idea that it's a one-intention unit when it's not and that you criticize something that's easy to bash on (and I recognize I can be encouraging that behavior), especially when you're just far away in your living room, while the reality you're so remote from is entirely different. I'm not saying it can't be criticized, just that one needs proper knowledge of the events in order to do so, and you've proven on many occasions that you do not (you don't seem to know of the organization, or of local conditions that brought forth that kind of protest, and the like), nothing personal, you just don't.