Pakistan army ordered to hit back US forces

by Dave Keating | September 12, 2008 at 01:21 am
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Though Sarah Palin seems to be unaware that it's occuring, the US has been undertaking raids into sovereign Pakistan territory from Afghanistan, without the approval of the Pakistan government.  With a new president just taking office in the country, the timing of this is very politically sensitive. Now there are reports surfacing that Pakistani troops are mobilizing to confront US troops of they continue the unauthorized raids.

The Pakistani Army has been given orders to retaliate against any unilateral strike by the Afghanistan-based US troops inside the country.

Army Spokesman Maj Gen Athar Abbas confirmed the orders in a brief interview with Geo News on late Thursday night.

The decision was made on the first day of the two-day meeting of Pakistan's top military commanders to discuss the US coalition's ground and air assault in Waziristan region which killed dozens of civilians.

Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani chaired the meeting which began in Rawalpindi on Thursday at the Army General Headquarters.

Pakistan's military commanders expressed their determination to defend the country's borders without allowing any external forces to conduct operations inside the tribal belt bordering Afghanistan, sources said.
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SOLARLIFE
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at 06:59 on September 12th, 2008

Dave Keating, I like this story. It gets tough for Palin's desperate housewife worldview. The universe strikes back, even the "Unknowns" don't want to be bombed. When do americans understand a mountain region can not be bombed by GPS, you need groundtroops, the weak point of the US army. Should ask the Brit's for knowledge transfer.   

rumana husain
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at 07:01 on September 12th, 2008

Dave Keating, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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Fairbanks

>Though Sarah Palin seems to be unaware that it's occuring . . .

Opinion? 

dunkelberg
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at 08:37 on September 12th, 2008

GIBSON: Do we have the right to be making cross-border attacks into Pakistan from Afghanistan, with or without the approval of the Pakistani government?

PALIN: Now, as for our right to invade, we're going to work with these countries, building new relationships, working with existing allies, but forging new, also, in order to, Charlie, get to a point in this world where war is not going to be a first option. In fact, war has got to be, a military strike, a last option.

GIBSON: But, Governor, I'm asking you: We have the right, in your mind, to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government.

PALIN: In order to stop Islamic extremists, those terrorists who would seek to destroy America and our allies, we must do whatever it takes and we must not blink, Charlie, in making those tough decisions of where we go and even who we target.

GIBSON: And let me finish with this. I got lost in a blizzard of words there. Is that a yes? That you think we have the right to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government, to go after terrorists who are in the Waziristan area?

PALIN: I believe that America has to exercise all options in order to stop the terrorists who are hell bent on destroying America and our allies. We have got to have all options out there on the table.

Sounds like a yes to me.

Now, during a August 2007 foreign-policy speech, Obama said:

I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will.

McCain pounced on Obama's statement and used it as a cudgel to attack Obama for months. Just a few days later McCain, in a Republican debate with his fellow primary contestants, said:

"It's naive to say that we will never use nuclear weapons. It's naive to say we're going to attack Pakistan without thinking it through. What if Musharraf were removed from power? What if a radical Islamic government were to take place because we triggered it with an attack?"

Then at a news conference eariler this year, McCain said:

"The best idea is not broadcast what you are going to do. You don't broadcast and say you are going to bomb the country without their permission or without consulting them."

Emilio Lizardo
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at 08:50 on September 12th, 2008

This lady has never had an original thought in her life ...

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World_Groove

The Iranian News Station presstv.ir says its source is Geo News. Can someone please explain why Geo News (A Pakistan News Agency) Is not presently running the story ?

Geo


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hussain

Dear, Geo News is not a news agency, rather it is a private television channel. Please correct it.

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dunkelberg

I imagine some will have problems with the New York Times as a source too.


SLAMABAD, Pakistan — In an unusually strong statement criticizing the United States for sending commandos into Pakistan to fight the Taliban and Al Qaeda, the chief of the Pakistani Army said Wednesday that his forces would not tolerate such incursions and would defend the country’s sovereignty “at all costs.

Members of an Islamic political party shouted anti-American slogans during a recent demonstration in Peshawar, Pakistan, staged in response to an American raid on militants in Pakistan.

“No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan,” the military chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, said in what amounted to a direct rebuff to the United States by the Pakistanis, who are regarded by the Bush administration as an ally in the campaign against terrorism.

When General Kayani took over as chief of the army in November, American officials spoke highly of him and were counting on him to be their ally in much the same way, perhaps even to a greater degree, as President Pervez Musharraf had been. Mr. Musharraf was president and army chief for almost all of his nearly nine-year rule.

General Kayani’s statement on Wednesday seemed to call into question the extent of his cooperation and that of Pakistan’s army.



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World_Groove

This statement is much different than the one saying  the 'Pakistan Military will attack US forces' (paraphrase). This Statement is very broad and would be aimed at militant groups as well.

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hussain

As mentioned by Zichi, the print edition of The News daily (an English daily of the same group that owns Geo News television channel) carried seven-column super lead titled: 'Army ordered to hit back: ISPR' on its front page.

It was a one-sentence story written by anybody on News Desk of the daily. It exactly stated: "RAWALPINDI: From now on Pakistan Army was ordered to retaliate against any action by foreign troops insdie the country, Geo News quoted ISPR spokesman Maj Gen Athar Abbas as saying Thursday night."

Another related story under the above-referred story was titled 'Commanders discuss US plan'. This story discussed the meeting of Pakistan Army commanders. It said: "ISLAMABAD: Pakistan's military commanders resolved to defend the countr's borders without allowing any external forces to condcut operations inside Pakistan." Rest of the story was more of a comment and background material as well as a statement of Pakistan PM saying the statement (issued by the military a day earlier in response to a US commander's statement) reflected true sentiments of the government's policy.

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World_Groove

So in short, the headline of this NowPublic and Iranian News Story is leading, as it added the word "US".  This has been my bone of contention all along, As I had a feeling the headline was ramped up for effect. The ISRP Office of Inter Services Public Relations is who released the actual story.

Also, Geo News "does" have an online edition

Finally after 3/4 of a day they have posted a similar story. 

ISLAMABAD: Amid talks of changing strategies on US-led war against terrorism, ISPR chief Athar Abbas warns that the Pakistani armed forces will now retaliate with full force in case there are any cross-border strikes on the Pakistani territory.

Major-General Athar Abbas told the British television that the armed forces have been directed to retaliate in case of any attacks from across the border. He said that the Pakistani forces are capable of tackling any kind of attacks.

The DG ISPR said the rules of engagement with the coalition forces are well defined and the right to conduct operations against the militants inside Pakistan is solely the responsibility of the country's armed forces.

The statement follows a similar warning from the Army Chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani.
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hussain

Yes, they may not have the story on their website and the comments of the ISPR chief might have been taken over telephone. But I'm not sure what happened.

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