Pakistan Still supporting Taliban and others

after reading this stunning story and watching the compelling vide footage a phrase springs to mind  which fits perfactly about the reporter and the channel

TALKING OUT OF THE ASS

what a load of rubish.. vide clips of taliban firing picked up from the internet, and join it with secrutiy forces in tribal area fighting taliban. and there you have it.. undeniable evidence.

 

Pakistan is supporting not only Taliban but also Sri Lankan Government.

well said mate.. Pakistan is also supporting the green house gases responsible for global warming . Pakistan is also supporting the fat cats of multinational companies that caused the global economic meltdown and recession.

What an excellent collection of articles and videos you have here, Rene, first of all.

I have just finished reading the Atlantic monthly article and to comment on it, I will have to reread it another couple of times. It struck me as the one needing the most digestion and promising the most fruit of understanding.

One point is the article that struck me was that Bhutto had helped get the Taliban rolling !!

So, a question I can pose for now: why does all this exist? What is the basis for these myriad points of view that intertwine and contradict and support each other?

If we don't grasp what is at the bottom of each perspective, we run the risk of over- or under-reacting to the group's contribution to the crisis.

In general terms, what we see here is a Machiavellian accommodation to an extremely reactionary force, the Taliban, as suits bests the interests of people who do not really at all share the religious zeal of the Taliban, especially its totalitarianism, those people being the educated men of the Secret Services of Pakistan..

What else but power could push those whose psyches have lived in the world of Reason, old Western post-Enlightenment reason, with education, some kind of recognition of human rights, decent treatment, if not full equality for women and decent treatment of children, to ally themselves with such a reactionary force?

So, the question is: to what extent does such corruption exist as the general situation in Pakistan and will it really be possible to help Pakistan save itself from itself?

Are these forces so bent on their bargain with the devil that they are willing to live under a future of chaos or just unconscious of how they will live under the Taliban? Are they so in prey of their narcissism that they cannot grasp what wind they sew and what whirlwind they will reap? They actually believe that they will come out on top.

Once again, Rene, a really good job of collecting info.

Unfortunately there are valid reports on both sides, Religion is a harsh mistress when the Taliban and Pakistan military cross swords, it is similar to the US civil war of the North and South in the 19 century of brother killing brother, except this time it is in Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan with brother killing brother and one of the brothers killing US forces, while the other brother either joins in the melee with the US forces, and perhaps some of these brothers having a tinge of guilt shooting dead someone they may be related to by blood. As for both respective governments, that is for both countries diplomats to decide the fate of everyone. Rest assured it is not the Diplomats or Government wonks and politicians on the front lines, cause if it was them on the battlefield this war would be over Pronto!

As a former soldier and peace keeper, who always wanted a better world, in the end, are we just cannon fodder for Fatcat governments pleasure?

I say, we should get out, stay out and let the victors over there split the spoils, cause whatever we do to help, we get it thrown back in our face, resulting in no one being happy!

But then thats just me and my sole opinion as a soldier.

Looks like the Pakistan Military is neither here nor there. See this article.

Even President Zardari claimed that his army is not trained in counter-insurgency operations when he went to ask help from the West and US.

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Thanks Rene for once again provoking serious commentary on this important issue.

Iwould agree with Barry no matter what the western forces do to help eradicate the radical elements they will be blamed. However, I too would love to say ,hell with you all, a pax on all your houses and send the troops home. But  in today's world there are elements within these governments that have this orgasmic desire to drop a cloud over someone and some people to satisfy their perverse sense of justice and religious destiny.

With that stark reality in mind, it is very important to take the information provided by Rene and address it very seriously.

Thanks once again Rene. This is too important for this not to be on the first page of NP instead of some murder or celebrity who beats up on his 19 year old girlfriend.

yea.. its far better.. lol

this is Iraqi dossier part 2, de-ja vu... keep up the good work

honstly .. I dont udnerstand the Amercian Psyche.. at any given time there has to be a vilian.. a face or a name to hate or talk about then the righteous war to defeat it and come out glorious. Now it is Taliban, their own lab creation gone out of control.

“now the time has come when America will act, and don’t you friken misunderstand me”   says the Mighty Bush (late)

 

Look around mate at your own country and then maybe you will get the picture.