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Pastor Rick Warren: I'm not an Anti-Gay Marriage Activist
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by TheCameraObscura | April 7, 2009 at 11:12 am
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Appearing on Larry King Live!, Pastor Rick Warren said that he is not anti-gay marriage activist, but does believe that marriage should be between one man and one woman. He even claimed that he did not support Prop. 8.
However, Rick Warren released a video on YouTube clearly endorsing Prop. 8 before the vote: "Let me say this very clearly, we support Proposition 8. if you believe what the bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8."
Rick Warren: “You know Larry, there was a story within a story that never got told in the first place. I am not an anti-gay or anti-marriage activist. Never have been, never will be. The whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement.
>Never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going–the week before the vote, somebody in my church said, “Pastor Rick, what do you think about this?” And I sent a note to my own members that said. I actually believe that marriage is really, should be defined. If that definition should be saved between a man and a woman and then all of a suddenly out of it they made me, you know something that I really wasn’t. And there were actually a number of things put out.”
He did make this video statement during the Proposition 8 controversy.
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at 11:27 on April 7th, 2009
Thank you for this story, TheCameraObscura! And, for the link to Pastor Warren's video statement -- it is very clear:)!
Also, I would appreciate it if you would add the tag "Sexuality" to this story so that it will appear on NowPublic Sexuality Special News Coverage channel. Thanks!
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Cathie Underwood (not verified)at 08:16 on April 10th, 2009
I’m providing this to you in an effort to clarify statements made by Pastor Rick Warren during his April 6th appearance on CNN "Larry King Live." Several comments he made during that interview have caused confusion which I would like to clarify on his behalf as media representative for Saddleback Church.
Throughout his pastoral ministry spanning nearly 30 years, Dr. Warren has remained committed to the biblical definition of marriage as between one man and one woman, for life -- a position held by most fellow Evangelical pastors. He has further stressed that for 5,000 years, EVERY culture and EVERY religion has maintained this worldview. When Dr. Warren told Larry King that he never campaigned for California's Proposition 8, he was referring to not participating in the official two-year organized advocacy effort specific to the ballot initiative in that state, based on his focus and leadership on other compassion issues. Because he's a pastor, not an activist, in response to inquiries from church members, he issued an email and video message to his congregation days before the election confirming where he and Saddleback Church stood on this issue. During the King interview, Dr. Warren also referenced a letter of apology that he sent to gay leaders whom he knew personally. However, that mea culpa was not with respect to his statements or position on Proposition 8 nor the biblical worldview on marriage. Rather, he apologized for his comments in an earlier Beliefnet interview expressing his concern about expanding or redefining the definition of marriage beyond a husband-wife relationship, during which he unintentionally and regrettably gave the impression that consensual adult same sex relationships were equivalent to incest or pedophilia. --- Kristin U. Cole a. larry ross communications (p) 615.289.6701 (f) 615.825.9152at 14:58 on April 10th, 2009
Hi Kristin:
Rick Warren said in his interview with Larry King that he "never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going–the week before the vote."
That's simply not true. He released a video on YouTube clearly endorsing Prop. 8 before the vote: "Let me say this very clearly, we support Proposition 8. if you believe what the bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8."
Your attempt to "clarify" is clearly spin control and implies Rick Warren is not able to speak for himself, in that case, he shouldn't be in the public forum or in any leadership position of a church.
Not every religion as supported one man and one woman in marriage for 5000 years, the Mormon Church taught polygamy and some Muslims are allowed to have more than one wife as well.
Rick Warren is clearly playing a game of semantics, claiming he's not an activist or a campaigner because he wasn't part of an official organized effort, but the fact is he did indeed endorse Prop 8 and told others to vote for it.
That is activism, that is campaigning.
The link to the endorsement video, above, is in my story. I stand by my story.
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br political (not verified)at 09:32 on April 11th, 2009
Beyond Prop 8/CA Taxes
Prop 8 Repeal Bid Begins
http://www.365gay.com/news/prop-8-repeal-bid-begins/
This is why sodomy should be eliminate, gay legals disbarred, gay nonprofit charters revoked, CA legislature should be one house (Senate) per little Hoover commission, legislators should be part time as in FL, legislature should meet/vote electronically from their HOME/OFFICE WITHOUT STAFF, a state constitutional convention to reorganize the US into a loose confederacy so other states do not have recognize other state gay marriages, and CA should seek closer ties to China/Russia/Islamic nations vs the EU. Register American Independent Party.