Paul vs. Clinton Fraud Case, Let the Dispositions Begin

by politisite | April 24, 2008 at 12:50 pm | 9419 views | 12 comments

Peter Paul vs. Hillary Clinton Election Fraud Case stuffed in a California Court,  Maybe Hillary is not Fully Vetted

Clinton Allowed to Testify following the Election? Depositions to begin in Paul vs. Clinton

Hillary will not be deposed until after the election. Don't panic, it will be okay. Yes, of course, it was a political consideration. Disney did not release THE PATH TO 911 on DVD to protect Hillary.

Judge Aurelio Munoz, who appears rather friendly with Clinton attorney David Kendall, requested that Kendall say hello to a friend named Bill at Kendall's firm, Connolly and Williams. Munoz went to law school with him. Isn't that nice.

Even though Hillary will be delayed, there will be numerous witnesses who have important things to say. They include defendants former President Bill Clinton and Jim Levin, Chelsea Clinton, former Vice President Al Gore, Gov. Ed Rendell, Gray Davis, Howard Wolfson, Kelly Craighead, Andrew Grossman, Patti Solis Doyle, Larry King, Barbra Streisand, Cher, Diana Ross, John Travolta, Brad Pitt, Stan Lee, Haim Saban, and many others.

Even before her testimony, the voters will learn about her obstruction of justice and the false FEC reporting. Perhaps a sitting federal judge and an assistant US Attorney will be subpoeaned. Are you listening Clinton-appointed Judge A. Howard Matz, you who pulled off the legal equivalent of the 1919 Black Sox in the David Rosen trial?

Special thanks to nowPublic Contributer:  Lonnie  from San Jose, California  for assistance with this article

Hillary’s biggest lie of all - Her campaign will take no money from Peter Paul

By: Doug Cogan 

Yes, Hillary Clinton has been caught in a big lie that seems to keep getting worse as she tries to lie her way out of it. No, it was not sleep deprivation. No, she doesn't speak millions of words per week. No, she didn't just misspeak. SHE LIED about the supposed sniper fire in Bosnia.

When will the press finally be willing to talk about the biggest lie of all? In 2000, Peter F. Paul spent approximately $1.6 million on her campaign with the promise that the President would join Stan Lee Media for one year when he left the White House.

When Ed Rendell, then chair of the DNC, was alerted that Lloyd Grove of the WASHINGTON POST was writing a story about Peter's felony past from two decades earlier for his involvement in the CUBAN COFFEE CAPER (that was really a good thing, ripping of Castro), Rendell advised Peter that he and the rest of the gang were going to lie.

Hillary trotted out her lying weasel campaign spokesman, Howard Wolfson, who told the Post that the campaign would take no money from Peter Paul. Through four false FEC reports and a massive conspiracy, she has continued to lie to this day.

April 25, 2008 is the next Paul v Clinton status conference, and we expect that the judge will finally set the trial date and open the way for discovery. We are hoping that Hillary will finally be under oath in August during the Congressional recess and just before the convention

 Bill Clinton's Peter Paul Court Date April 25, 2008 Hillary Clinton also named in the case!

Peter Paul says this photo shows him, and his wife, Andrea, celebrating his business deal with President Clinton (Courtesy Hillcap.org)

A judge in Los Angeles yesterday allowed Hollywood mogul Peter F. Paul to begin taking sworn testimony in his $17 million fraud suit against former President Bill Clinton, but a technicality delayed establishment of a trial date.

 

California Superior Court Judge Aurelio N. Munoz ruled Paul's legal team can begin seeking depositions from a host of big names – including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton – that allegedly were witnesses to an effort by the Clintons and top Democratic leaders to extract millions of dollars from Paul in illegal donations and then cover it up.

 

Munoz is expected to set the trial date at an April 25 hearing. He said yesterday in court he could not set the date, because defendant Jim Levin, an aide to President Clinton, must be served notice again. Levin did not respond to the original complaint, and Paul's legal counsel at the time – the Washington watchdog Judicial Watch – did not file a notice of default to verify that fact before filing an amended complaint.

The complaint says Bill Clinton promised to promote Paul's Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for an August 2000 Hollywood gala and fundraiser.

Paul attorney Colette Wilson told WND she has 30 days to service notice to Levin, and he will have 30 days to respond.

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Levin is a key figure in the case, Wilson said, because he helped conceive the Hollywood event then contacted Paul to underwrite the costs. Paul claims Levin later was directed by President Clinton to sabotage Stan Lee Media by convincing Paul's Japanese partner – in violation of a confidentiality agreement – to incorporate a new company instead of investing another $5 million with Paul. The loss of that badly needed capital ultimately caused Stan Lee Media to fold, Paul maintains.

Wilson said she had a brief discussion yesterday with Hillary Clinton's lawyer, David Kendall, outside the courtroom and came away with the impression Kendall was not going to make it easy for Paul's team to depose the senator.

Paul said he is working on securing one of the country's top lawyers to lead the discovery process.

Kendall, who was traveling back to Washington yesterday, has not replied to a request for comment. Los Angeles-based Clinton co-counsel Jan Norman also did not reply.

Sen. Clinton was dismissed from the case as a defendant, but Munoz already has made it clear he won't accept any attempts to block Sen. Clinton from serving as a material witness.

In court April 7, 2006, a Paul attorney told Munoz he "anticipated opposition to taking the deposition of Senator Clinton. I assume we'll be back to court on motions of that."

The judge replied: "Well, any opposition is probably going to be dead on arrival, if that will – if you understand what I'm saying, Mr. Kendall."

The Peter Paul vs Hillary and Bill Clinton Album[q url="http://hillarytruth.blogspot.com/"]Clintons, Pauls and Jim Levin sit together at the Hollywood Gala Farewell Concert Salute to President Clinton , August 12, 2000.

It was the largest event ever produced for a US President in Hollywood, it was the largest private concert produced closed to the public and it was the largest fundraising event ever produced for a Senator. It also became a federal crime when Hillary Clinton's campaign hid the source and amount of Peter Paul's $1.2 million plus expenditures for Hillary Clinton's campaign.[/q]

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   Paul v. Clinton: Motion to admit documentary evidence in Paul v. Clinton case   Posted by: Admin on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 03:22 PM PST
     IN THE COURT OF APPEAL, STATE OF CALIFORNIA

SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT, DIVISION 7

IN THE COURT OF APPEAL, STATE OF CALIFORNIA

SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT, DIVISION 7

PETER F. PAUL,

Plaintiff and Appellant,

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WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON,

Defendant,

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR U.S. SENATE COMMITTEE, INC.,

Defendants and Respondents.

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Appeal No. B191066

(Superior Court
No. BC 304174)

(Honorable Aurelio N. Munoz, Judge)

MOTION TO ADMIT NEW DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE
(Code Civ. Proc., § 909; C.R.C. Rule 8.252)

Gary G. Kreep (SBN 066482)
D. Colette Wilson (SBN 123112)
UNITED STATES JUSTICE FOUNDATION
932 D St., Suite 3
Ramona, CA 92065
Tel. (760) 788-6624
Fax (760) 788-6414

Attorneys for Plaintiff and Appellant

Appellant, Peter F. Paul (Paul), through his attorneys of record, requests that this Court admit new documentary evidence pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure section 909 and California Rules of Court, Rule 8.252, subdivision (c). The evidence sought to be admitted consists of a five-minute, videotaped recording of a July 17, 2000, telephone call between Hillary Rodham Clinton (HRC), on the one hand, and Paul, Stan Lee and Aaron Tonken (Tonken) on the other, jointly chatting with her by speakerphone (the July 17 DVD). The July 17 DVD is labeled “July 2000 Conference Call – Hillary Clinton & Peter Paul, Stan Lee & Aaron Tonken” and is being submitted with this motion.
GROUNDS FOR THE MOTION
The grounds for this motion are as follows: (1) Paul has exercised due diligence and could not have presented this evidence in the trial court or at any time earlier in these appellate proceedings, (2) the evidence contained on the July 17 DVD is extraordinary, (3) the July 17 DVD is conclusive evidence of the issues to be considered, and (4) admission of this evidence would serve the ends of justice.
ISSUES TO BE CONSIDERED
Paul requests that this Court admit the July 17 DVD into the record on appeal for consideration as to two issues: First, the issue of whether HRC personally solicited, coordinated and accepted Paul’s expenditures for the Hollywood Gala Salute to President William Jefferson Clinton (Tribute), and second, the issue of whether HRC had sufficient knowledge of Paul’s business enterprise and the President’s involvement with Paul that it would not have been a “fishing expedition” to depose her to obtain the evidence necessary for a prima facie case.
DUE DILIGENCE
As described in detail in the accompanying declarations of Peter Paul and D. Colette Wilson, the five-minute videoclip contained on the July 17 DVD just came into Paul’s hands two months ago. Although Paul participated in and personally filmed the telephone conversation captured by this videoclip, Paul has not had possession of the original or any copy of the VHS tape containing it since December 2000. That VHS tape, along with 81 other original videotapes Paul filmed during and prior to 2000, has been in the possession of the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York pursuant to a search warrant served on Stan Lee Media, Inc. After years of trying to obtain copies of these videotapes, Paul was finally able to get the necessary authorization on April 11, 2007. This motion is therefore the earliest Paul could have presented this evidence to any court.
REASONS FOR GRANTING THE MOTION
1. None of the Reasons for Denying a § 909 Motion Applies Here.
An appellate court can take additional evidence of facts at any time prior to the decision on appeal, for the purpose of making independent factual determinations “or for any other purpose in the interests of justice." (Code Civ. Proc. § 909) Whether or not to grant a section 909 motion to consider additional evidence lies entirely within the appellate court’s discretion. This power is rarely used, primarily because “reviewing courts are not equipped to undertake any appreciable amount of evidence-taking on appeal.” (9 Witkin, Cal.Proc. 4th (1997) Appeal § 798, p. 830) In this instance, however, the Court is not being asked to conduct a hearing to take oral testimony. In fact, the evidence is a mere five-minute videoclip that can be watched on any DVD player.
The power is never invoked (1) where the evidence existed at the time of trial, (2) where the evidence is cumulative of contradictory evidence, or (3) where the evidence is not conclusive on the question for which its admission is sought. In re L.B. (2003) 110 Cal.App.4th 1420, 1423, fn.1. Nor is the power invoked where substantial evidence supports the trial court’s findings. Philippine Export & Foreign Loan Guar. Corp. v. Chuidian (1990) 218 Cal.App. 3d 1058, 1090. None of those conditions exists here.
This motion also meets the requirement that it concern an appeal that did not involve a trial by jury. (Code Civ. Proc. § 909)
Additionally, this evidence is not being submitted for the purpose of reversing a factual finding by the trial court, since, as to the first issue, the lower court never considered the question of whether HRC solicited, coordinated and accepted Paul’s expenditures for the Tribute. As to the second issue for which this evidence is being offered, the trial court’s denial of Paul’s motion for limited discovery was premised on a lack of evidence, not on a finding of fact.
2. This Is an Extraordinary Circumstance.
Although section 909 motions are concededly rarely granted, where there are extraordinary circumstances, an appellate court will, in the interests of justice, admit new evidence. Conservatorship of Hart (1990) 228 Cal.App.3d 1244, 1257 (reviewing cases and admitting federal income tax return showing, contrary to what trial court found, that gifts from conservatorship estate would incur substantial tax liability ); In re Marriage of Rhoades (1984) 157 Cal.App.3d 169, 172-173 (new evidence admitted on showing of near impossibility of obtaining evidence previously and on strong showing of equity and interests of justice).
This is such an extraordinary circumstance. The evidence is of that rare type that captures the very commission of a crime, namely, that of knowingly soliciting, coordinating and accepting federal campaign contributions far in excess of the legal limit of $2,000. The elements of this crime are explained in detail in the Reply Brief filed herewith.
3. The July 17 DVD Is Determinative As To the Issues Presented.
a) Whether HRC solicited, coordinated and accepted Paul’s contributions.

As both our Opening Brief and our Reply Brief point out, criminal conduct is not protected by the First Amendment, nor by Code of Civil Procedure section 425.16 (the anti-SLAPP law). Consequently, a determination that HRC knowingly and willfully solicited, coordinated, and accepted Paul’s expenditures for the Tribute would be determinative of the issue of whether HRC was entitled to bring an anti-SLAPP motion in the first instance. The telephone conversation captured on the July 17 DVD is conclusive of the fact that HRC did engage in that activity.
The conversation in question took place the Monday following a large conference call on July 11, in which David Rosen, James Levin, Tonken, Paul, fundraising consultant Terri New, members of Gary Smith’s production staff, and others, participating from Paul’s office, strategized with members of HRC’s campaign committee in New York (including HRC’s campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson), as they worked out the details of the exact nature, size and anticipated cost of the Tribute. (1CT022:16-023:9; 5CT981:13-982:5) By the time HRC called Paul in his office on July 17, Paul had already entered into what he believed was a solid agreement with President Clinton that Paul would underwrite half the anticipated $1 million cost of the Tribute as part of President Clinton’s compensation package for working as a “rainmaker” for Stan Lee Media, Inc. when the President left office in January 2001. (1CT023:20-024:5)
The July 17 DVD evinces seven key facts, all showing conclusively that HRC was directly and personally involved in soliciting Paul’s contributions and coordinating his expenditures for the concert portion of the Tribute, which was that portion of the event designed to generate federal (“hard”-money) contributions for her campaign.
First, the July 17 DVD records a candidate (HRC) talking directly with a donor (Paul) on the subject of preparations being made for a large campaign fundraiser.
Second, HRC includes herself as among those who are working on organizing the Tribute.
Third, HRC admits to having intimate knowledge about what Paul and Tonken are doing for her, based on reports being made to her by Kelly Craighead, HRC’s senior staff official (4CT790:9).
Fourth, HRC implies that because Kelly, her highest staff member, has been and will continue to be involved with the organization of this event, she herself will continuously be keeping tabs on the preparations.
Fifth, HRC promises to make herself available to assist them.
Sixth, HRC admits that she “closed the sale” in calling and convincing Cher to perform at the event, after Tonken had apparently paved the way. Obtaining a commitment from a big name like Cher had a direct bearing on potential guests’ willingness to pay $1,000 to attend HRC’s private concert, especially given the short notice for such a major event.
Seventh, HRC effusively thanks all three -- Paul, Stan Lee and Tonken -- and encourages them to keep up their efforts. This constituted both an acceptance of Paul’s contributions thus far and a solicitation for Paul’s future expenditures.
b) Whether HRC had sufficient personal knowledge of Paul’s business enterprise and the President’s involvement with Paul that it would not have been a “fishing expedition” to depose her to obtain the evidence necessary for a prima facie case.

The July 17 DVD provides direct evidence of HRC’s knowledge of Paul’s business enterprise, which existed to market Stan Lee’s comic book creations, such as the X-Men. Throughout the conversation, HRC made numerous comments that demonstrated a familiarity with Stan Lee’s comic book characters. Ordinarily, a candidate is not that knowledgeable about contributors’ business enterprises.
These comments may have also been made for Paul’s benefit, as seeming to acknowledge Paul’s supposed future business relationship with the President and to suggest to Paul a willingness on her part to share in that relationship. Additionally, towards the end of their conversation, HRC states that what Paul, Tonken and Stan Lee are doing is going to “mean a lot to the President, too.” (DVD Transcript 8:13-14) This comment implies she knew of the President’s role in arranging for Paul to underwrite the Tribute.
At a minimum, then, the July 17 DVD demonstrates that HRC had sufficient personal knowledge of Paul’s business enterprise and the President’s dealings with Paul that it would not have been a “fishing expedition” for Paul to depose her in order to obtain the evidence necessary to establish a prima facie case.
4. Admission of This Evidence Would Serve the Ends of Justice.
In Flatley v. Mauro (2006) 39 Cal.4th 299, the California Supreme Court noted (quoting from the Attorney General’s amicus curiae brief):
“If the courts rule that a defendant who has engaged in indisputably illegal behavior ... has met the first step of the motion to strike, the defendant can then shift the burden to the plaintiff and force his victim to [marshal] and present evidence early in the litigation before the commencement of full discovery...[I]f the plaintiff/victim is unable to show a probability of prevailing, he will have to pay the defendant’s attorneys fees. (See § 425.16, subd. (c).) These are ...grossly unfair burdens to impose on a plaintiff who is himself the victim of the defendant’s criminal activity.” (Id. at 318) (brackets and ellipses in Court’s opinion)

In light of this videoclip – which clearly demonstrates HRC’s willingness to illegally solicit and accept excessive campaign contributions – it is obvious that HRC would not have had any interest in defrauding Paul but for her intent to engage in illegal conduct in order to finance her Senate campaign. Paul was clearly a victim of her criminal activity.
For the reasons just noted in Flatley, therefore, it serves the ends of justice to admit this videoclip into evidence because it is direct and conclusive evidence of HRC’s commission of a crime. The anti-SLAPP statute does not exist to protect criminal conduct. Hence, the July 17 DVD is also conclusive as to the ultimate issue on this appeal, which is whether the judgment granting the anti-SLAPP motion must be reversed.
Even if this Court determines that HRC’s conduct was statutorily protected, fundamental fairness dictates that Paul be permitted to depose HRC based on this proof of her direct knowledge of issues necessary to establishing Paul’s prima facie case. Therefore, for that reason as well, it would serve the interests of justice for the Court to admit this evidence.
CONCLUSION
Based on the foregoing, the Court should grant this motion.
Dated: June 20, 2007

Respectfully submitted,
UNITED STATES JUSTICE FOUNDATION

D. COLETTE WILSON
Attorneys for Plaintiff/Appellant

Paul vs. Clinton website launched

Paul vs. Clinton website launchedBy Kathy Miller | The Hillary ProjectPeter F. Paul has launched a new website to expose and inform the public of the upcoming landmark civil trial of Paul vs. Clinton.  The case is pending in a California court against former President Bill Clinton, with Senator Hillary Clinton as a material witness.

A status conference hearing is scheduled for April 25, 2008, and a trial date is expected to be announced soon.

Discovery in the case is expected to begin in May, 2008 as it proceeds to trial.

The discovery will expose an ongoing cover-up of the campaign finance crimes and the obstructions of justice directed by Hillary Clinton with the help of Bill Clinton and former DNC Chair Ed Rendell. The cover-up rivals Watergate in its corruption of each branch of government and the media.

Since the media still refuses to cover Senator Clinton's involvement in the largest campaign finance fraud case in U.S. history, Paul will report on much of the news himself in this historic landmark case.

For news and information on this case, you can visit PaulvClinton.com

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jordan
good stuff:

politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff. (and you also created a story that would appear if I searched for "election", "x-men", and "hollywood" all at the same time... no mean feat)

djermano

Judiciary Committee sends contempt charges for Miers, Bolton to full House

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Judiciary_Committee_sends_contempt_charges_for_0725.html

Hillary a Liar?  I don't think so.....especially when Bush needs no campaign finance laws when he had the Supreme Court select him as President? You must really be kidding right?

eastvanray

What kind of logic are you using?  Just because Bush may be guilty of doing something does not mean that Hillary Clinton is not guilty as well.  How did you come to the conclusion that they were mutuall-exclusive?

politisite

I was media credentialed by ABC  at the Florida recount.  Every major news agency agreed that he won Florida.  I was there.  The Supreme court is a seperate branch of Government and actually agreed with Albert Gore on some aspects of the case.  7 of the Justices agreed that there were constitutional issues regarding the Florida Supreme Court Descision.  How could Bush own the supreme court when some of the justices who overturned the FSC where Liberal and where appointed many years prior to the Bush Presidencey.  So you are kidding?

djermano

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=harriet_miers_1&printerfriendly=true

It's pretty clear when the Courts are controlled by the Bush cabal. It's pretty clear when Impeachment is not tabled for crimes already committed by the Bush Administration. It's pretty clear why the US Attorneys were fired, in order to stop the Impeachment process as flawed as that process is. It's pretty clear when Hillary is the only remaining candidate who could conceivably seek the Impeachment of Bush and Cheney, so they come up with slanderous lies against her to discredit her. It's pretty clear.. when we see Obama is really a Republican Mole dividing the Democratic Party, because Obama does not support Impeachment. It's pretty clear when Obamas pal Tony Rezko helped Rove with the firings of the US attorneys. It's pretty clear: Who the War liars and murderers are.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/23/national/main4039857.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._4039857

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/soren_dayton/2008/apr/14/tony_rezko_and_nadhmi_auchi_more_of_obamas_gifts_that_keep_on_giving

politisite

 Tony Rezko also raised money for Clinton's as well.  Bill Clinton Pardoned members of the weather underground who violently blew up federal government buildings.  The news is focusing on Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers who gave Obama 200 dollars an sat on the same board. Which is more of a problem?

The senate and the House are controlled by the Democratic party which holds the purse strings of America.  Since we are in a Recession according to Alan Greenspan, who is supporting John McCain, by the way, it is the fought of the Congress. 

If articles of impeachment were warranted, Speaker Pelosi would have them written up in a heart beat.  This is America the courts are not controlled by a President, they are a separate but equal part of our government.  The supreme court has ruled against the Bush administration many times.  Regarding the firing of 8 US Attorneys which is the prerogative of the president, let me remind you that when Clinton became the President of the United States he fired every US attorney but one. 

President Clinton on the night before the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, bombed a aspirin factory.  So if you are looking for a president that won't use weapons of mass destruction for political purposes, you might want look beyond the Clinton's for your presidential choice.

 I believe you have been sucked in by the great spin mastering of Mark Penn who is still working for the Clinton's. The same Mark Penn who provided crisis management for Union Carbide  following the killing of thousand of People in India from a chemical leak in 1984.

alyceclover

How did a trial of Bill and Hillary Clinton become Obama is a Repbulican mole? Bill Clinton got in troube with fund raising fraud as did Hillary. I do not have the legimate details straight in my mind. Names: Hsu and Haung. One went to prsion for it. It seems dishwashers from Chinatown NYC suddenly were sending Hillary $2,300. money order campaign contributions. Investigations (it seemed suspicious that so many dishwashers were suddenly able to make max campaign fund contributions on their salaries) most of the contributers could not be found via their listed telephone or addresses.

Some that were found said they contruted under duress and promises that Hillary would hasten their path to legal citizenship. Oops, non citizens can not contribute to campaigns. Some of the dishwashers verified they never donated. The Clintons have been doing stuff like this since Arkansas days~money laundering charges never reaching court. Key witnessess dying suddenly from unexpected heart attacks, plane or car crashes or suicides.

Hillary used her powers as First Lady to get bogus charges filed on Billy Dale. He was proven innocent, but his life was nearly destroyed due to her treachery. He said, she should just have fired him to replace him in his long term Travel Office job when she wanted to put her cousin in his place.

When ever did Hillary want to impeach Bush? He endorses her for president. Russ Feingold and Cynthia McKinney were the only two in Congress who pursued it and Feingold mysteriously quickly dropped his motion to censure. Kucinich, I believe is still actively pursing impeachment and perhaps a senator from Florida. (I get mail from the guy, but forget who he is...just signed his petition.)

But Obama as Republican? Omigod. Hillary got to you too. She takes more lobbyist money than McCain and has lied to guillible voters saying she plans to fight them in DC. Obama is true to his word only accepting money from citizens in his campaign. Back in December one of Hillary's loyal staff members quit. Her credit card was maxed out. She did not autorize the charges which were over the FEC limit. The other staff that chareged her card told her not to worry about it "you will be going all the way to the White House with us". When the lady~think her name is Kathy~said she was going to the police, the staff refunded her funds.

I verified the information online and FEC info showed the lady had indeed given way over the FEC limit. Count on it: If Hillary claims Obama did it, it is her own crime. She is closer to being a Republican than Democrat; she began her political career as one. She also cheats with the best of old school politicans. Obama is a breath of fresh air.

alyceclover

Thanks for the article. I was trying to find out if Bill showed up in Los Angeles today. I checked the court records and saw a new OSC: Contemt hearing scheduled for 5/13/08. I know Hillary is guilty of fraud~her specialty going back to Rose Law Firm days. But assuming innocence, the case should be reported on every main stream news media on and offline. I would garner a guess that the Elton John concert most likely violated FEC law also. If it were not for studying the Paul case and judging for myself the validtiy of claims, I would not know, that Elton would have to declare the value of service given and the amount is limited. I also question if he is legal US citizen.

FBI agent did testify in court that Hillary lied on FEC filing in the Paul case and I think she was fined $35,000. She did perjure herself in claiming she was not pre-involved with the gala, saying it was all Paul's doing. He will be proving in court she was well aware and active in the fund raising. As pres she should know the legalities of fund raising and obey the law. But obeying laws is not Clinton (nor Bush) style.

djermano

Tony Rezko also raised money for Clinton's as well.  Bill Clinton Pardoned members of the weather underground who violently blew up federal government buildings.  The news is focusing on Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers who gave Obama 200 dollars an sat on the same board. Which is more of a problem?......Ok Polisite so why has Obama come out against Impeachment but Hillary has not stated? And I sure don't see Clinton pardoniong Bush for his role in the terrorist attacks on the WTC. We all know that was an inside job.

The senate and the House are controlled by the Democratic party which holds the purse strings of America.  Since we are in a Recession according to Alan Greenspan, who is supporting John McCain, by the way, it is the fought of the Congress.....The Congress is not fully controlled by the Dems and you know it, or war funding would have been stopped> Greenspan supports a loser and a murderer then. 

If articles of impeachment were warranted, Speaker Pelosi would have them written up in a heart beat.  This is America the courts are not controlled by a President, they are a separate but equal part of our government.  The supreme court has ruled against the Bush administration many times.  Regarding the firing of 8 US Attorneys which is the prerogative of the president, let me remind you that when Clinton became the President of the United States he fired every US attorney but one. 

The courts are filled with Bush and Republican appointees, don't tell us the courts are not hijacked by Bush. Pelosi works for Bush in case you didn't know. I am not arguing that Bill Clinton did the same thing. I am arguing that a Republican does the same bad as a Democrat and that is suppose to be superior? Funny that Republicans did not force Clintons Attorney General to resign either.

President Clinton on the night before the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, bombed a aspirin factory.  So if you are looking for a president that won't use weapons of mass destruction for political purposes, you might want look beyond the Clinton's for your presidential choice.....And I might want to ask you why do you consider Bill the same as Hillary? In fact I am not for any of the candidates, they all are terrible, so what do we do? Give McCain more murdering opportunities, give women the the chance and distinction to wiping out some people, or hand over the killing machine to Barack Obama and sully the legacy of Martin Luther King and Black American culture?

 I believe you have been sucked in by the great spin mastering of Mark Penn who is still working for the Clinton's. The same Mark Penn who provided crisis management for Union Carbide  following the killing of thousand of People in India from a chemical leak in 1984.

I have not been sucked into any spin masters. I think the only people able to beat Bush Republicans is Hillary, because she is the only choice and her husband proved it can be done. Bhopal in India was a Republican Business Corporation, and they have still not settled that court case.

eastvanray

djermano,

That is a refreshing bit of conspiracy theory.  I am not a fan of Bush.  Hell I am a Canadian and don't really care who runs your country as long as you keep your hands off us but I am not buying what you are selling here.  You must be angry for some reason but I doubt that was George Bush's doing either.

And do not put your silly words in the mouths of others by trying to pass this turd off as a consensus of informed comment "....Bush for his role in the terrorist attacks on the WTC. We all know that was an inside job."  There is no good reason to hold that opinion.  The balance of evidence does not support your conclusion.

I suspect you also believe that there was never a moon landing, that the government is hiding aliens and that those voices in your head are coming from space.

TAKE YOUR MEDS!  You are having a delusional episode!

 

 

bradpittiful

djermano You've been sucked in by more than spin masters. Life must keep you up nights, worrying what 'bad ol George Bush' is going to do next. I pity you and your ilk.

djermano

You certainly have not studied the WTC attack, when thousands of scholars agree those buildings were imploded. Why wasn't building 7 mentioned in the 911 Commission Report, as it too imploded and no airliner hit it. There are many more things that do not add up, and by ridiculing me only shows your blindness to the truth.  http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=6715

Better to be up at night than sleeping at the wheel and lying about the truth. I don't need your pity because bad ole Bushy has no next to do. His ilk is finished.

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