Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy blast Palin off-air.

by Bob Carson | September 3, 2008 at 01:48 pm
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Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy’s off air attack of Palin for VP pick. Who’s telling the truth?
By: John Amato @ 2:20 PM - PDT crooksandliars

This clip is spreading very fast. Wow, listen to this off air exchange between two Conservative pundits and Chuck Todd who happily joined in. Tell us how you really feel about McCain and Palin. Murphy is very close to McCain and Noonan is Noonan. (rough transcript. Please fill it in below)

Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state government work. Angler, Whitman, Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. And these guys, this is all like how you want to (inaudible) this race. You know, just run it up. And it’s not gonna work.

Noonan: It’s over.

Murphy: Still, McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.

CT: Don’t you think the Palin pick was insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too (inaudible)

Noonan: I saw Kay this morning.

Murphy: They’re all bummed out. I mean, is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?

Todd: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?

Noonan: The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives and (inaudible) the picture.

Yeah, but what’s the narrative?

Noonan: Every time the Republicans do that because that’s not where they live and it’s not what they’re good at and they blow it.

Murphy: You know what’s really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism and this is cynical.

And as you call it gimmicky.

Will the media start asking conservative scribes if they really feel like Murphy and Noonan do about McCain’s pick of Palin? Honesty is out in front right now as we just witnessed. Are they all just lying to our faces and not being called out about it by our talking heads sitting right next to them? We just witnessed the real deal and not the dog and pony show Republicans are so good at.

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dunkelberg
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at 13:58 on September 3rd, 2008

Oops!

No such thing as a dead mic!


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Bob Carson

Thank you! This is MSNBC"s revenge for what Fox News did to Obama. You know, the whole Jesse Jackson dead mic thing.

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bill hicks

why don't you quote peewee herman next time.  he is just as relevant.

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Bob Carson

Murphy worked on McCain's campaign in 2000. Noonan is one of the leading conservative columnists. If this doesn't tell you this pick was a disaster, I don't know what does.

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at 15:09 on September 3rd, 2008

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lmao

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Bob Carson

Thank you, Moonwolf. Is this considered a frontpage story?

Rhonda J Mangus
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jayp

Here's another persuasive dismemberment of  Palin: http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html

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Amazing ...

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dunkelberg

Initial McCain campaign response.

You might think the disparaging comments, recorded in an MSNBC session when Murphy and Noonan thought they were not being recorded, might sting, coming as they did from GOP insiders and now being widely circulated on the Internet, including some obscenities added by the two Republicans.

Perhaps they did sting. But you’d never know it from Steve Schmidt, the man overseeing day-to-day operations of McCain’s campaign and the man Schwarzenegger chose to run his 2006 reelection.

“Who cares?” Schmidt said in an e-mail.

-- Dan Morain


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dunkelberg


Noonan's mea culpa, well her explanation mostly and a mea culpa, via Matthew Vadum at newsbusters.org.

Post Script 8:30 p.m.: Peggy Noonan offers a mea culpa after the fact. She says her on-air words were misconstrued. She now says that WSJ editors have allowed her to amend her post and change the headline to "Open Mic Night at MSNBC." The new top portion of the post reads: Well, I just got mugged by the nature of modern media, and I wish it weren't my fault, but it is. Readers deserve an explanation, so I'm putting a new top on today's column and, with the forbearance of the Journal, here it is. Wednesday afternoon, in a live MSNBC television panel hosted by NBC's political analyst Chuck Todd, and along with Republican strategist Mike Murphy, we discussed Sarah Palin's speech this evening to the Republican National Convention. I said she has to tell us in her speech who she is, what she believes, and why she's here. We spoke of Republican charges that the media has been unfair to Mrs. Palin, and I defended the view that while the media should investigate every quote and vote she's made, and look deeply into her career, it has been unjust in its treatment of her family circumstances, and deserved criticism for this. When the segment was over and MSNBC was in commercial, Todd, Murphy and I continued our conversation, talking about the Palin choice overall. We were speaking informally, with some passion -- and into live mics. An audio tape of that conversation was sent, how or by whom I don't know, onto the internet. And within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is "over", as it says in the transcript of the conversation. Here I must plead some confusion. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. "The first lesson they learned is the one they remember," I said to Todd -- and I'm pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that's over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. And when I said, "It's over!" -- and I said it more than once -- that is what I was referring to. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. I did not say it, and do not think it. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn't know, but that we just might find "This IS a country for old men." That is, McCain may well win. I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that "It's over." However, I did say two things that I haven't said in public, either in speaking or in my writing. One is a vulgar epithet that I wish I could blame on the mood of the moment but cannot. No one else, to my memory, swore. I just blurted. The other, more seriously, is a real criticism that I had not previously made, but only because I hadn't thought of it. And it is connected to a thought I had this morning, Wednesday morning, and wrote to a friend. Here it is. Early this morning I saw Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, and as we chatted about the McCain campaign (she thoughtfully and supportively) I looked into her eyes and thought, Why not her? Had she been vetted for the vice presidency, and how did it come about that it was the less experienced Mrs. Palin who was chosen? I didn't ask these questions or mention them, I just thought them. Later in the morning, still pondering this, I thought of something that had happened exactly 20 years before. It was just after the 1988 Republican convention ended. I was on the plane, as a speechwriter, that took Republican presidential nominee George H.W. Bush, and the new vice presidential nominee, Dan Quayle, from New Orleans, the site of the convention, to Indiana. Sitting next to Mr. Quayle was the other senator from that state, Richard Lugar. As we chatted, I thought, "Why him and not him?" Why Mr. Quayle as the choice, and not the more experienced Mr. Lugar? I came to think, in following years, that some of the reason came down to what is now called The Narrative. The story the campaign wishes to tell about itself, and communicate to others. I don't like the idea of The Narrative. I think it is ... a barnyard epithet. And, oddly enough, it is something that Republicans are not very good at, because it's not where they live, it's not what they're about, it's too fancy. To the extent the McCain campaign was thinking in these terms, I don't like that either. I do like Mrs. Palin, because I like the things she espouses. And because, frankly, I met her once and liked her. I suspect, as I say further in here, that her candidacy will be either dramatically successful or a dramatically not; it won't be something in between. But, bottom line, I am certainly sorry I blurted my barnyard ephithet, I am certainly sorry that someone abused my meaning in the use of the words, "It's over", and I'm sorry I didn't have the Kay Baily Hutchison thought before this morning, because I could have written of it. There. Now: onto today's column.
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CJaye

I can't believe it happened again! It hasn't been that long ago we had  one with what's his name. Why won't people learn when they wear a mic check it, TURN IT OF, then talk crap.

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Bob Carson

What a spin by Peggy Noonan. You noticed how she didn't address the "political Bull&^%# comment.

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at 19:06 on September 3rd, 2008

Wow.  That is an amazing piece of footage and will have implications for the McCain campaign as well as the commentators.

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dunkelberg

not to mention the tech who was supposed to kill the mics

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Resonant Earth

How many times did George Bush Jr. forget to turn his mic off? It makes for great political comedy

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dunkelberg

You mean like this?

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at 20:00 on September 3rd, 2008

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As always the spin will continue in greater and greater volumes the greater the mistake.

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David Patton

Most conservatives are disconnected with the MSM. They are relying on news sources and journalists who are less jaded and self serving. If controversial garbage comes out of the MSM it is to be expected...no matter what the proposed political affiliation. People want honesty and truth. If Palin is a fraud, then lets here it. If not, then don't try to slime a woman who personafies what most Americans, especially middle class woman, want to reinforce about themselves and find representation for. Palin apparently clarifies what this election is  about; a need for character that can deal with any number of problems and crisis that life throws at all of us; personally and nationally. McCain has been elevated by his attempt to surround himself with people that could provide a McCain presidency with a team that the American conservatives are more energized and confident in. She, hopefully, has the true grit that apparently the "Thin Man"  does not.

       The MSM has rendered itself irrelevant as an objective news source and this is the price for betraying the trust of the people. Now they will have an even harder time surviving. When a new MS news outlet comes along that is "old school objective" it will do well.


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dunkelberg

Noonan & Murphy got it right!  First time.  Palin proved it tonight.

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Bob Carson

Looking at that Vogue cover, I don't think McCain can call Obama a celebrity.

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BigT

Obama has been on the cover of Men's Vogue.

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Awesome!  The house of cards is falling down

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Between this and the observation that the RNC's stage looked either like a big phallic symbol (or a fist with a middle finger up) I've nearly spit my coffee out this morning with laughter.

Special RNC Stage Could Not Be More Phallic

That’s former Senator Bill Frist you see speaking on tonight’s redesigned RNC stage, with a lovely projection of the African plains at dusk as his backdrop. You know what else is a projection? The massive black cock on which he’s standing.

 

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