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Plague or mutant H1N1 infects 40,000+ kills 80+ in Ukraine
This story seems to be gathering speed with fishy facts coming out daily... Reports of possible pneumonic plague cases, or an "unknown" virulent h1n1 strain.
The government don't know what it is and deny spraying the city with an unknown aerosols, the WHO are in town trying to figure it out, sounds a tad serious. Stories of an interesting spin from an ex-mossad microbiologist also makes interesting reading:
"The news has sparked a flurry of reports from conspiracy based websites that are citing a warning made in August by a man called Joseph Moshe, who claimed to be a former Mossad microbiologist.
Moshe hit the headlines when he was arrested after a long standoff with police in LA because he had supposedly made threats against the White House.
Shortly after his arrest, hundreds of comments and reports began to circulate stating that Moshe had called into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapon that was being prepared by Baxter International’s Ukraine plant that would be spread via a flu vaccine and would cause a plague upon it’s release."
They look to be in serious trouble and are Pleading for help from the world community and NATO. Many areas of the city are under quarantine and rumors are circulating of an escalation into martial law
Guess they'll try the tamiflu angle first and delay what is really required.... Be interesting to see where this goes.
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at 12:46 on November 2nd, 2009
When will this stop - is it not enough to have nature create diseases like these even with the chance of mutation over time to kill humans.
Well if any of this is true regarding Baxter International or other who create diseases like these to be used against their own species (humanity) then humanity is only lab test upon its selves waiting to fail.
Thanks for getting this out car1edb.
at 12:56 on November 2nd, 2009
Ermm - they already "nearly screwed up" 1, 2 . Who knows how many have gone unreported etc...Its all about big business and having the patients, etc.
The whole thing stinks....you know there are still too far many people for the planet to sustain? Somethings gotta give - nothing's come out of the jungle/wild yet so maybe they're just giving it a "helping hand" ;)
at 08:13 on November 4th, 2009
True Ukraine Numbers May Indicate Change in H1N1 Virus
Tuesday, November 3, 2009 Posted by Sharon K. Gilbert
(By Dr. Henry Niman – Recombinomics Commentary 11/2/09) –
• 255516 Influenza/ARI
• 15810 Hospital Admissions
• 235 Intensive Care
• 70 deaths
The above numbers reflect the latest government update on cases in the Ukraine. They are dramatically higher than those reported in the past few days and raise concerns that the death toll will increase significantly over the next several days.
Read More: Ukraine H1N1 Deaths and Hospitalizations Spike Higher.
at 17:49 on November 4th, 2009
This is scary.
Here is a link showing the region and the numbers infected.
(it is a interactive map with a guide below to help you, it may be confusing at first how it set up, but its numbers are clear)
"Some wire service reports and comments from WHO have downplayed these numbers, noting that the death rate for Ukraine is similar to other countries in Europe. However, the deaths in the other countries accumulated over the entire pandemic flu season, while the deaths in the Ukraine were in the past few weeks, with most cases reported in the past few days." Source: Ukraine H1N1 Deaths and Hospitalizations Spike Higher.
at 20:46 on November 4th, 2009
Seems to be exploding over there, reports cases have doubled in as many days. The WHO have classed it as a severe outbreak, am sure its worse as always is. But others have alternative views of what is going on. It also looks to be spreading across eastern Europe quite rapidly.
Most of the mainstream media are following what they've been told -that its a severe bout of H1N1, but something looks to be a tad special. Not as if the variables in those countries are much different to anywhere else in Europe?
at 02:07 on November 5th, 2009
Caution and prevention is always necessary with any kind of epidemic flue. Most of the time media, having nothing else to report about in selling their papers, try to exaggerate the situation. In the case of Ukraine it is a dreadful coincidence with the upcoming elections in view, that politicians and the media try to create a promotion trick showing how good one party is and how bad the others are. Its dreadful that the people are victim again, there is not sufficient medicine for treatment and there are no alternatives available either. The country is too poor to provide adequate flue defense as maskers and politicians who are the mayor culprits are taking advantage of it over the back of the ordinary folks.
at 13:20 on November 5th, 2009
Im not sure, reporting has been low this side of the pond - maybe not to cause panic, etc..
People are talking about a possible mutation now...which is nice, more money for the companies to try and push out another vaccine? or could start the kick off for a bigger agenda.....
..So looks like the gov has handed things over to the NSDC (National Ukrainian security) and have declared martial law now: "Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities".So be a good victim and do what you're told.
Deaths are climbing daily and looks like it could be getting out of control, Russia and other neighboring countries are stepping up border controls and checks to try and slow the spread etc..
at 09:49 on November 17th, 2009
Updates - They still won't release the sequencing/makeup of that strain.315+ dead (real figures probably higher)... they're talking about scrapping that countries election too.
Starting to hit the mainstream media as plague also and spreading across europe, bring the panic!
at 09:56 on November 17th, 2009
Million People Hit By Plague Worse Than Swine Flu - Western Ukraine
H1N1 "super flu" plague in Ukraine sparks concern, conspiracy theories about origins
at 10:02 on November 17th, 2009
Snuffy - did you actually read my last comment? you've duped a link!
at 06:25 on November 18th, 2009
Ukraine: H1N1 virus is dangerously mutating? - Swin Flu ABC
Only time will tell, trouble is, if true, by then could be too late. www.russiatoday.com British scientists suspect that swine flu virus has mutated in Ukraine. Some doctors say that flu in the country has shown unprecedented symptoms, ...
at 08:53 on November 18th, 2009
Ukraine Black Lung Epidemic Kills 12 In A Single Day Over 1.4 million people are infected and conspiracy theories abound. Read
at 09:05 on November 18th, 2009
it would not surprise me that wars in the future would have no boundaries regardless of international agreements
Baxter Pharmaceuticals' package distribution of live vaccine:
http://www.vimeo.com/7298827
at 10:43 on November 20th, 2009
Unconfirmed reports of large numbers of deaths from the vaccine in the Ukraine...possibly spread to the UK...
at 11:05 on November 20th, 2009
I have experienced the H1NI this year, the past few weeks. I had a lot of phlegm. I like the spelling of that word, though I did not like the clump of it in my throat.
at 13:25 on November 21st, 2009
"Norway announced that they had detected a mutated form of the swine flu virus"