Pope Benedict Christmas Message of Discrimination Against Gay People

uploaded by rpshen December 23, 2008 at 09:29 am
2489 views | 24 comments | 5 recommendations

Pope Benedict Christmas Message of Discrimination Against Gay People

Video Properties
NP! ID: 1991144
Title: Pope Benedict Christmas Message of Discrimination Against Gay People
File Size: 321 bytes

Created: Tue, 12/23/2008 - 9:29am
Modified: Tue, 12/23/2008 - 9:29am

File Type: multimedia (text/plain)
recommend This comment thread is now closed
2
Colin G

Long live the Pope and congratulations to him for speaking the truth!

2
cjeb2003

Well said Colin!  He does indeed speak the Truth and many would do well to heed his words.  Thank you, Colin and best wishes to you and yours for a truly wonderful Christmas and holiday season!

2
Kate W

Amen, Colin!

2
Paul Johns

You go Pope Benedict!!  Great job... keep up the good work!!

4
Glen McCluskey

The truth always hurts when one is living a lie, especially when its for self gradification.

3
Jim Hegenauer

God Bless Pope Benedict

It's to bad the press can't treat the truth unbiased, like they claim, instead

of with their own worldly slant.

0
Keith Downey

Good for The Pope. Now if he'll just come a bit more to his senses and do away with the abomination of the novus ordo and restore tradition throughout the world. Homosexuality is 2nd to the destruction of the church since Vatican II!

2
David68

It is ridiculous to think that the Pope is promoting hatred against gays and lesbians. There's no clear mentioning of gays and lesbians at all. I put the related text here: "Since faith in the Creator is an essential part of the Christian Credo, the Church cannot and should not confine itself to passing on the message of salvation alone. It has a responsibility for the created order and ought to make this responsibility prevail, even in public. And in so doing, it ought to safeguard not only the earth, water, and air as gifts of creation, belonging to everyone. It ought also to protect man against the destruction of himself. What is necessary is a kind of ecology of man, understood in the correct sense. When the Church speaks of the nature of the human being as man and woman and asks that this order of creation be respected, it is not the result of an outdated metaphysic. It is a question here of faith in the Creator and of listening to the language of creation, the devaluation of which leads to the selfdestruction of man and therefore to the destruction of the same work of God. That which is often expressed and understood by the term “gender”, results finally in the self-emancipation of man from creation and from the Creator. Man wishes to act alone and to dispose ever and exclusively of that alone which concerns him. But in this way he is living contrary to the truth, he is living contrary to the Spirit Creator. The tropical forests are deserving, yes, of our protection, but man merits no less than the creature, in which there is written a message which does not mean a contradiction of our liberty, but its condition. The great Scholastic theologians have characterised matrimony, the life-long bond between man and woman, as a sacrament of creation, instituted by the Creator himself and which Christ – without modifying the message of creation – has incorporated into the history of his covenant with mankind. This forms part of the message that the Church must recover the witness in favour of the Spirit Creator present in nature in its entirety and in a particular way in the nature of man, created in the image of God. Beginning from this perspective, it would be beneficial to read again the Encyclical Humanae Vitae: the intention of Pope Paul VI was to defend love against sexuality as a consumer entity, the future as opposed to the exclusive pretext of the present, and the nature of man against its manipulation."

1
just a gay bloke

The vatican is responsible for millions of HIV victims because they are against condom-use. Now they will be responsible for gay-bashing. This is the true face of orginized religion : hate and seperation of mankind. There are over 6 biljon people on earth and this planet is way overcrowded. And now he's suggesting homosexuality isa treat to mankind?

I hope he knows what he has done making comments like this......

1
David68

The vatican is NOT responsible for HIV victims. In fact the vatican is one of the only defenders of the only safe protection against HIV: loyalty to your partner. Studies show that propaganda for condoms doesn't help at all in reducing HIV infections. Read my previous comment: if you would do any effort to know what the pope has really said, you would know that he said nothing about homosexuals!! What is a threat to this world, is people distorting the meaning of what others say and this way portraying them as hateful.

1
Penny123

I find it surprising that the Pope sends out a message to judge, persecute and cast out any individual let alone being the season of good will towards all mankind. Not very Christian is it? One has to wonder if he is a competent ambassador for the church or simply just an idiot?

 

0
David68

Where did the pope judge, persecute, cast out individuals? I am sure you didn't even read his text, because then you would see how the media have completely ignored what he really said.

0
anti-facism

You just don't get it do you?
Because of his influence, he doesn't have to persecute, cast out individuals directly, but what only is enough doing this is suggesting heterosexuality is "better" than the other. this, incripted in big words,  he did said in his text, you can't denie that mate.

By doing this he doesn't even have to name homosexuals directly, the harm is done by suggesting there is a wrong from right in human sexuality. And that is exactly what he did.
Thats why it is so dangerous to have a religion at all. There is always a wrong from right, and, who makes the rules? in this case, what could ever be harmfull about two men or two women loving eachother in an overpopulated world? Ask yourself that before blaming the media for twisting his words, because there is only one true twist happening here, and that is the stubborn attitude of the Catholic institute trying to influence people even behind the bedroom doors!

0
David68

Where did the Pope judge, persecute and cast out individuals? I am sure you didn't even read his text.

3
Frank B

Homophobia at it's best, if i may say so. 

If family values and breeding children are the fundamental to your religion, why Jesues did not have any children on earth or the leader of the church the pope himself, why he doesn't get married and have a few children? So humanity will survive.

Can he give the reasons why homosexuality is a treat to humanity? No, because there isn't any. 

HEY, REMEMBER ONCE, THE EARTH WAS FLAT!!! if you believe that you're a gullible.

Another stupid and mistakable statement from the Vatican

Peace on Earth...

0
Mac-Anthony

those who want to know should know where and whose leadership to follow either that of the ROMAN CATHOLIC ORDER or the anti-Christs claiming to be christian but are not.I LOVE POPE BENEDICT.

0
anti fascism

Well, good for you. I hope your child will be gay then. That would be a real good lesson for you to learn.

1
David of Oregon

The human person, made in the image and likeness of God, can hardly be adequately described by a reductionist reference to his or her sexual orientation. Every one living on the face of the earth has personal problems and difficulties, but challenges to growth, strengths, talents and gifts as well. Today, the Church provides a badly needed context for the care of the human person when she refuses to consider the person as a "heterosexual" or a "homosexual" and insists that every person has a fundamental Identity: the creature of God, and by grace, his child and heir to eternal life.
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, 1986

The media really took out of context what the Pope said.  This is what he wrote about the subject over 20 years ago.  His position has not changed...nor should it.

1
Lenka

I was catholic. But as long as this man stays as the "leader" of catholic church I shall not step in a single catholic church!!!!

0
disgusted

Wow, how cool for Xmas - peace on earth and hatred to all gays?

0
Jason of the Axe

Christians around the world believe that Christmas is the season of peace, hope, and joy, because of the birth of Jesus.  They believe this because of what they know and have experienced through the divine grace of the living God.

One says that another hates but does not recognize the nature of their own convictions.


0
Gay Woman

Maybe we could include the Pope's name on the BNP mailing list - there were a few "men of the cloth" already on there!  Love thy neighbour!!!! Not very Christian - people who hide behind scripture and judge and condem others rile me - what about being judged on how we treat others... I am a gay woman who lives an ethical life and will go above and beyond for others in need.  The discrimination I have encountered over the years has made me a better and more understanding person.. however, having to listen to tripe and hypocracy is never very nice.

I am however glad that a the American Catholic Church has apologised to the 1000's of children who were abused by the Catholic priests over the years!! But I suppose we shouldn't speak about that sgould we????

0
Richard Wiesenthal

The single most relevant threat to mankind is organized religion. It has been the cause of the most horrific wars and acts of atrocity in the name of God. The Popes have a long history of inciting hate and bigotry. They fan the fires of homophobia, anti semitism, and disregard for human rights. In an attempt to circle the wagons and protect their own they have protected pedophiles and abuse.

0
Gay Pullin

Fun for you all. The pope, as many have been is gay. He is a non-practicing homosexual. He has support in the Vatican for his "condition", however, being self loathing he has yet to reconcile with himself . There are many in his situation who try and hide behind whatever office of power they hold, even wearing ball gowns with lovely red shoes and very gay hats, and take their rage out on the very people who they are.

Nothing new at all, been this way forever, however, it is time for many of you who are not gay to face the truth in your heart, otherwise you will never know yourself. Living in delusion, missing all to be had. Tragic indeed, especially for those of you who, "did it once" with the same sex as you.

Ta ta,  ta ta

This video was created over 3 months ago, the comment thread is now closed.

closeSign in to NowPublic

is reporting from