President Clinton on Hillary's Trip to Bosnia, the Politisite Lie Detector

by politisite | April 11, 2008 at 06:35 am
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President Clinton on Hillary's Trip to Bosnia, Politisite, the Bill Clinton Lie detector.

By Albert N. Milliron

Former President Bill Clinton shared the Bosnia story on the campaign trail at Boonville, Indiana last night. Politisite thought it would be fun to attach a lie detector to President Clinton's jacket. O.K. that might be a bit harsh, how about a Misspeak detector.

Here are President Clinton's speech, the content has not been modifed.

"A lot of the way this whole campaign has been covered has amused me," he said. "But there was a lot of fulminating because Hillary, one time (1) late at night when she was exhausted, misstated and immediately apologized for it (2),

what happened to her in Bosnia in 1995 (3). Did y'all see all that. Oh, they blew it up. Let me just tell you. The president of Bosnia and Gen. Wesley Clark (4) -- who was there making peace where we'd lost three peace keepers who had to ride on a dangerous mountain road because it was too dangerous to go the regular, safe way -- both defended her because they pointed out that when her plane landed in Bosnia, she had to go up to the bulletproof part of the plane (5) , in the front.

Everybody else had to put their flack jackets underneath the seat (6) in case they got shot at. And everywhere they went they were covered by Apache helicopters. So they just abbreviated the arrival ceremony (7) .

Now I say that because, what really has mattered is that even then she was interested in our troops. And I think she was the first first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt to go into a combat zone (8)(9). And you woulda thought, you know, that she'd robbed a bank the way they carried on about this. And some of them when they're 60 they'll forget something when they're tired at 11:00 at night, too."

The writer has been shot at,  I can tell you the date, time, and situation. Combat Veterans on NP do you agree?

I thought it was interesting that President Clinton would retell this story with almost all of the mistakes outlined.  The story was just about to pass from the daily news cycles when the President retold his version of the events.  The former President sure isn't helping Hillary become the President.

So do you really want Hillary to answer that 3 a.m. phone call if she misspeaks when she is tired? 

The Mispeak Detecter Results

(1) She told the story three times: Dec 29, Feb 29, and March 17 never at night.

(2) Senator Clinton defended her story for days, 11 days later she said she misspoke, she never apologized

(3) She went to Bosnia in Jul 1996

(4) Clinton's most prominent military supporter, General Wesly Clark tried to downplay the controversy, "saying that too much is being made of it and sometimes people make mistakes" - Source Washington Post

(5) Every high ranking official is made to get in the front of the plane on landing- Source  Talk Radio Interview with Pilot on the Rusty Humphries show.

(6) The Pilot said, "nobody under my watch has ever directed anyone to sit on their flak jackets". - He did say that he saw people sitting on their flak jackets in the movie Apocalypse now- Source- the Rusty Humphries show

(7) See video - President of Bosnia was there to greet the First Lady.

(8) Pat Nixon visited Troops in Vietnam in 1969.  The story in the Book Pat Nixon - The Untold Story is  very similar to the story Senator Clinton Tells.

(9) The visit came three months after the war ended with the signing of the Dayton peace accord in December 1995 - Source Associated Press

Col. William "Goose" Changose told radio talk show host Rusty Humphries today that the area was secured for the March 25, 1996, landing, with tanks around the base and helicopters flying overhead.

goosetwo."I gotta tell ya, I will give it to the commander of Air Base Eagle. He had that place – you know, not only were there no bullets flying around, there wasn't a bumblebee flying around," the pilot told Humphries.

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Pasi

I was in Bosnia, Doboj 1997: Pasi

During those days it was kind of peaceful, but still operations going on all the time.

Vinny
Vinny
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at 09:42 on April 11th, 2008

politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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tapsearcher2

Hillary "Sniper" story is growing. And there may be a even bigger story behind it. See below:

New York Times columnist Frank Rich notes that it was the Cleveland Plain Dealer's foreign affairs columnist, Elizabeth Sullivan, who first debunked Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLinton's tale about landing "under sniper fire" in Bosnia in 1996. We put up the story a day after Sullivan wrote it and noted there was another story behind the story.

Elizabeth Sullivan told story first about Hillary Clinton's "under sniper fire

The Cleveland Plain Dealer's foreign-affairs columinist, Elizabeth Sullivan, was the first to debunk Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's tale about landing "under sniper fire" in Bosnia in 1996 - this story has become one of the biggest stories of the compaign season.

Elizabeth Sullivan, top journalist for the Cleveland Plain Dealer who always provides a scholary approach to the news revealed the "under sniper fire" story Jan 10, 2008 .( We have many of her stories about the Balkan wars, and will do a summary of these historical articles soon.)

Excerpted from The Plain Dealer, Jan 10 :
" Sen. Hillary Clinton tried to exude war cred when she breathlessly told Iowans in Dubuque last month about her and Chelsea's "corkscrew" landing at Bosnian airfield in 1996 and their dash from the plane to avoid "sniper fire". --- By the time she got there, the war was over. It was not an experience of war. It was experience after the war.... that was not an understanding of war; it's a perversion of it. ---
Read Elizabeth Sullivan entire column at Blog.Cleveland.Com/pdopinion

Here's a story behind the story It may even be a bigger story.

Sally Bedell Smith. a proven biographer about many important leaders, writes in Jan 8 issue of Newsweek magazine that it was Hillary Clinton who helped press Bill to break with the Eurpoean allies in 1995 to use force in Bosnia after she calculated, in part, that doing so would help his 1996 re-election.

President Bill Clinton had his own pre-emptive war. He gave the Serbs a deal everyone knew the Serbs would not take. He took the U.S. military into Bosnia to stop ethic cleansing. It directly caused ethic cleansing with up to 750 thousand Serbians and Roma Gypies fleeing for their lives. In the process thousands were killed. Many fled to Kosovo, only to find themselves in another war with the Serbians and Gypsies being targets. no matter what age they were. Children were massacred.

President Clinton invited Islamic fighters to help fight the war in Bosnia. Bosnia became a training center for terrorists with several later being involved in 9-11 horror.

Former General Wesley Clark who has stands near Hillary Clinton at her rallies is called the Butcher of Belgrade. He was responsible for bombing civilians in Belgrade. The U.S. spent more than two months bombing Serbia and Kosovo populations. President Clinton admitted in a newspaper story, that he had to use the Social Security Trust Fund to support his war efforts.
( Clinton also bombed an aspirin factory and consistently bombed Iraq during his time in office. )

Hillary was there in the background with her husband. The bloodletting in the Balkan wars was horrendous. Elizabeth Sullivan writes --- War in Bosnia was four little boys playing soccer on the street - suddenly sliced apart by a 100mm tank sheel, their corpses laid out on a cold slab at a hospital --- while their parents labored unknowingly in the fields, and a nurse who'd already seen too much couldn't cry anymore.

We suggest to everyone to rent a certain movie before they go out to vote. The title of the Movie is Savior. Dennis Quaid plays a former U.S. army officer who fights as a mercenary Serbian soldier. Search on the web for the story line. The movie gives a good portrayal about wars in the Balkans. The female lead character is killed. Prior to that she says - it is just war - after her family is decimated. The scenes about the killing fields are vivid. Who would go out of their way to prompt a war like this?

According to Sally Bedell Smith writing in Newsweek - Hillary would. What you see is what you get.

We believe Hillary's tales about NAFTA Free Trade are even worst affecting most of us for more than twenty years. See our published letter from the Plain Dealer at Bizarre Politics Hillary NAFTA Dillydally. It gives you a time line about Hillary and Free Trade. However in this case, the Clintons and the Bush family were joined in the betrayal of American workers and workers everywhere.  ( see http://www.bizarrepolitics.com/hillary-nafta-dillydally  or http://tapsearch.com/backfire/

April 2, 2008 - Kevin O'Orien, Plain Dealer Deputy Editor, followed the Hillary "Sniper" story with a good commentary. He says the end may be near for Hillary. The Clinton "brand" on politics may be replaced. It would be interesting to watch many of their "friends" turn on them but I am afraid the old saying of Yogi Berra applys - it's not over until it's over.
O'Brien says Americans know their politicians lie but the lie has to make some sense. Hillary's tale about being under sniper fire when the war was over was not one of those times. President Clinton got away with the big lie just because he was president. Hopefully, Hillary will not get this opportunity.

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politisite

Why don't you post this story under a seperate cover so it gets the attention it deserves?  Not everyone on NP reads me and your story would get missed.  I will be happy to come by and give it the Good stuff.

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amyjudd

I agree!

Barry Artiste
Barry Artiste
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at 21:47 on April 11th, 2008

politisite, I like this story. It's good stuff. C'mon, can we really blame Bill for Hillarys outlandish stories about Snipers and Convert International Intrigue, worthy of a Bourne Supremacy Flick.  All Bill  did was Bring a Hammer and Nails to an already Wake, with Hillary supplying her own coffin.

It will be up to the Democratic Members to hammer those nails down hard and  put Hillarys coffin to rest.

As for Bill, he has had a good run, and with million dollar speaking engagements almost weekly, all he can say is "I'm Rich Beeyaachhh"!!

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politisite

Barry:

I will I had the ability to write as eloquantly as you

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Barry Artiste

Thanks Politisite, that is quite the comment, coming from you.

very appreciated

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