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by YankeeJim | July 22, 2011 at 03:14 am
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Depressed economy increases propensity for protests
American history shows that as the economy goes down and poverty increases without abatement, society reacts in protest. The more people suffer the more they protest, and the more badly they feel their protests become more vigorous and sometimes violent. Government reacts, of course, by tightening security and by attempting to manage and control the “mob.”
American history has also demonstrated that “police” can overreact and government can infringe upon people’s rights to protest. The same types of infractions against human rights that we see in the Middle East have also happened in America.
As the economy gets worse here, while government reduces support for people in need, one may expect an eventual collision and conflict.
In such an environment, organizations will emerge to lead the people against unfairness and oppression. Some organizations will advocate radical change in the American system. Some may advocate overthrow of government if things get very bad.
Not since the Great Depression has economic times loomed with so much potential for doom and demise as they do today. Even if the government leaders increase the debt limit and advance on spending cuts that stabilize the economy for the moment, the prospect of American’s needs not being fulfilled as promised while the wealthy continue to not pay their “fair share,” threatens to introduce class warfare.
The Department of Homeland Security is on alert to “homegrown terrorists.” Such can emerge in the form of individuals and small groups for their own ideological purposes bent on attacking people through violent means. We have seen the likes of Timothy McVeigh and the Nichols brothers, for instance, that are hard to explain other than their having extreme views against government and law enforcement. These types tend to be people against law enforcement where police are a symbol of government authority.
Groups of this nature are very different from those protesting their economic plight.
Law enforcement is in the position of having to sort out those with criminal intent from those of social protest. Law enforcement must protect the public from crime and terrorism while ensuring the freedom to protest peacefully.
“Napolitano: Domestic Terrorists Central to Threat
Published July 21, 2011
FoxNews.com
The killing of Usama Bin Laden in May by Navy SEALS may have damaged the al Qaeda organization in Pakistan and Afghanistan, but the terror group’s franchise in Yemen, its American-born leader Anwar al-Awlaki and homegrown threats are the next wave of terrorism, according to a new government report.
Nearly a decade after the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Bin Laden was only part of the story.
“Terrorism didn't begin with him and hasn’t ended with him and we have all these other groups in addition to core al Qaeda,” Napolitano said of Bin Laden in an interview with Fox News.
Napolitano’s comments come on the heels of a new Department of Homeland Security progress report that examines whether the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations are being implemented. The 9/11 Commission was a bipartisan, independent study group created in the wake of the 2001 terror attacks to account for what happened and to find ways to prevent the next attack.
The new DHS progress report shows that homegrown terrorism is central to the emerging threat picture.
Recent Justice Department documents show a case of homegrown terrorism with links to an international group have popped up every two to three weeks since January 2009. Just last week, a 22-year-old Pennsylvania man was accused of using the Internet to encourage domestic attacks by jihadists.
“We cannot presume that a threat would come at us from abroad, so the whole notion of violent extremism happening within our shores is very different,” Napolitano said.
She also confirmed that plots have been disrupted without the public's knowledge, but wouldn’t say how many. “There have been many plots that have been interfered with over time, yes,” Napolitano said.
The new report claims information sharing has been expanded since 9/11 and a multilayered approach to airline security has been adopted. Intelligence is used more broadly to identify high-risk passengers and cargo before they enter the U.S. The agency contends those measures could lead to less-invasive screening in the future.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/...o-threat/#ixzz1SpVJ0nBI”
“Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a United States Army veteran and security guard who became infamous for detonating a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City Bombing, the attack killed 168 people, injured 450, and was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[3] McVeigh, a militia movement sympathizer, sought revenge against the federal government for its handling of the Waco Siege, which had ended in the deaths of 76 people exactly two years earlier. He also hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government. He was convicted of 11 federal offenses and sentenced to death. His execution took place on June 11, 2001 at the Federal Correctional Complex, Terre Haute. Terry Nichols and Michael Fortier were also convicted as conspirators in the plot.”
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at 06:53 on July 22nd, 2011
You blamed the evil "rich" for not giving you enough money when they created jobs for you. You blamed the evil "rich" for polluting the environment with the jobs they created for you. So the evil "rich" moved the jobs to another country. You drove the evil "rich" offshore. You got rid of the manufacturing industry that you demonized. You got rid of the jobs, the work unworthy for you. You got everything you asked for. You got rid of the evil "rich". Now that the reality of the job losses, the high unemployment, the loss of homes, loss of vehicles, loss of standard of living, losses to the tax base, etc. etc,. Now you want the evil "rich" to come back and make up the difference. And you have the audacity to label it "their fair share" - knowing by your own comment from an earlier posting that the top 50% of earners pay virtually all of the income tax. Which means that the lower half of earners are getting virtually a free ride. Maybe it's about time they paid their fair share. Then maybe we'd get some jobs back that you drove away for not meeting your ideological needs. Not that I'd blame the evil "rich" for not trusting you. I wouldn't. You'll flip flop in a PC ideological second.
at 09:46 on July 22nd, 2011
I did not demonize manufacturing -- never. I did not vote for Bill Clinton -- ever. The evil rich went offshore because they could and because they are not patriots. Rarely do they or their children fight in wars. I am consistent, though not a sterotypic liberal Democrat.
at 10:50 on July 22nd, 2011
I know I have to keep clarifying this and it's my mistake in not doing so at every turn but, YOU isn't the personal. It's the general. The ideology before practicality of the American "progressive" liberal.
The "progressive" liberal demonized industry, the wealthy, demanded they pay more and more to cover the liberal social need of government supplied services while killing private sector supplied services, and then bitched about their loss of standard of living when the wealthy took their jobs to countries that appreciated the opportunity for both the work and the co-commitment increase in standard of living.,br>
The spoiled rotten idealistic American "progressive" liberal having learned nothing from their actions in destroying their standard of living/job market/tax base -is whining for the wealthy to return to carry a even larger load of the social net. One the wealthy wouldn't need to carry if the unthinking idealistic "progressive" liberal had understood in the first place that it was those they labeled the evil rich who created the employment, who created further wealth and enlarged the middle class, that lead to the high standard of living Americans enjoyed. That is before the ideological liberal destroyed it all by placing their ideology before practicality.
Patriotism? Making money isn't about being patriotic, and neither was destroying this country's ability to manufacture goods and services. If the "progressive" liberal had any notion of patriotism they would have protected what they had and not pissed all over those who invested so much in creating the goods and services that lead to the high standard of living that set us apart from most of the rest of the world.
If you want those who have earned a higher yearly income to pay an increasingly higher proportion of the social net then in all decency you should offer them a renewed social contract. Something respectful in return for taking care of you. In other words. Not place them in a position indentured to your needs, and not foster the attitude that you are owed, or hold that you have a moral right to dispose of their income, nor transmit that to the rest of society as a given and a just matter of social debt.
No one was born into this world to care for you. It's not a right nor moral obligation you can impose on anyone in a free society. Not that America as a free society will last much longer with the "progressives" turning the country into the United Socialist States of Victim America.
at 11:44 on July 22nd, 2011
Did you see the Oslo story? I was on my rampage against al Qaeda, and the terrorist suspect that is aprehended may not be at all related. I don't know all of the facts yet.
at 13:46 on July 22nd, 2011
There are different troubles facing countries like Sweden and Norway in regards to Islam and Muslims. The Norwegians are very multi-cultural/politically correct and there is often a abuse of that leniency. The Muslims there refuse to intergrate or learn the language and because of this don't fair well in society or in the work place. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this instance of violence has nothing to do with al-Qaeda or even Muslims. That it's some Norwegian angry at the exploitation of a once relatively crime free nation. Then again, given the overt hostility of the Muslims against their adopted nation, I wouldn't be surprised to find Norway a hotbed of Islamic terrorism and a recruiting center for al-Qaeda in Northern Europe. In terms of terrorism I expect that it will show up on my own doorstep, and a lot more intimately than 9/11 sooner than later -if the world doesn't rally together and put an end to it in a unified manner instead of the current political gamesmanship, infighting, policies of appeasement, and purchasing peace hoping to waylay once again the inevitable recurrence of hostilities.
at 15:57 on July 22nd, 2011
I would refuse to speak Norwegian. What is it?
at 16:24 on July 22nd, 2011
It sounds a lot like Scots brogue through a mouth full of herring with a bit of a lisp. Really, you'd think the Muslim could pick it up in a heart beat. Don't all those Muslims cough and spit their way through the consonants. LOL.
at 03:11 on July 23rd, 2011
The terrorist was a radical right wing Nowegian, Anders Behring Breivik.
at 07:28 on July 23rd, 2011
It was just a matter of time.
at 11:13 on July 26th, 2011
ALERT: MASSIVE CHEM-TRAIL ATTACK OVER NORTHERN ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO BY UNMARKED PLANES. STRANGE RAINBOW EFFECT ABOVE CLOUDS. RESIDENTS REPORTING FEELING SUDDENLY ILL. BIRDS BEING DRIVEN TO THE GROUND.