Putin accuses Georgia of genocide

by Amy Judd | August 9, 2008 at 05:12 pm

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UPDATE: 11:42PM EST

The United States has now stated that they fault Russia for the rising violence in Georgia:

The Bush administration official, who briefed reporters on condition his name not be used because of the sensitive nature of the situation, said Russia has attacked areas in Georgia that are far away from the separatist province of South Ossetia, where the fighting has centered. The official also said the Russian military is striking civilian targets.

"They have employed strategic bombers — the most potent air weaponry that is in the Russian arsenal .... They actually launched ballistic missile attacks on Georgian territory," the official said. He also said Russia has sent more than 1,000 paratroopers and armor into the region.

Russian bombing has also taken place in Abkhazia, a separate breakaway region of Georgia, far from South Ossetia, the official said.

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Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has now accused Georgia of genocide, as the fighting has intensified today.

He stated that Georgia was seeking 'bloody adventures' and of course, he defended Russia's decision to intervene.

Diplomatic efforts are being stepped up to try to halt what Tbilisi has called an "annihilation" of its democracy.

Georgia's President Mikhail Saakashvili earlier called for an immediate ceasefire to stop "this madness".

In the absence of independent verification, there are conflicting figures about the casualties suffered on both sides but the numbers appeared to rise sharply on Saturday.

The death toll in South Ossetia is believed to be about 1,400, and most of those are acknowledged to be civilians.
Casualities in Georgia are believed to be about 130, with about 37 civilians.

Mr. Putin has now left Beijing and has flown to the Russian city of Vladikavkaz, saying the Georgia was committing 'complete genocide'.
Putin puts the numbers of refugees at about 34,000, but the UN is saying that about 7,400 people have been displaced by the fighting.
The UN Security Council is currently meeting to try and decide what to do, as they are concerned that Russia will now want to redraw the world map.

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Emilio Lizardo

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at 17:22 on August 9th, 2008

amyjudd, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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Vinny

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at 17:37 on August 9th, 2008

Jack-imageX

at 19:26 on August 9th, 2008

You may want to try to get some information from XO Moskvy.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.echo.msk.ru%2Fnews%2F&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=ru&sl=es&tl=en&tl=en

The link will take you to the translated pages on Google if you don't read Russian. XO Moskvy tends to be a more independent source for news in Russia compared to the other state-run news outlets.

The "official" reports are very fishy so I don't trust them too much.

Amy Judd

at 19:39 on August 9th, 2008

Oh, how interesting - thanks so much.

Rhonda J Mangus

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at 19:25 on August 9th, 2008

amyjudd, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Uwe Paschen

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at 22:26 on August 9th, 2008

amyjudd, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Uwe Paschen

at 22:47 on August 9th, 2008

I commend you for being so precise on Putin his body count and only wish you do the same for Bush his Body count as well as Georgia theirs since Georgia has been doing some ethnic cleansing and did arm it self as well as agreed to be part of the American Missile defence system! Those Missiles have been the wrong approach from the beginning!

I think we better sit down and talk peace fast before we may get into another form of cold war! This is in part the reply to the Bush his persistence in poking Russia and China and in insisting on his Missiles to be put around the World! I could be wrong of course, yet it does not look that way yet! Yes, of course Oil and other thinks are involved as well!

everchanging

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at 00:26 on August 10th, 2008

amyjudd, Russia has been waiting for a reason to take back control of this whole region of the former Soviet Union. The result of a cease fire is unlikely in the current state of escalating fighting taking place. The news of a genocide is unlikely and most likely false, the only chance of genocide is from the current fighting taking place this last week by missiles being used against South Ossetia and the civilian casualties resulting form those attacks.

Putin does seem to still be in control as stated by others in this post. Will the U.S. step up remains the issue and the biggest question to be answered and if we do not, it will be to the loss of the world because Russia will not stop with Georgia, once taken back others will be next. This is why Russia is using every means to attack Georgia at the present time and as quickly as possible to get it done.

Has or does anyone know the state of the U.S. military (state of alert) at the present because of the situation in Georgia. Also does Georgia have any nuclear bombs from the former Soviet union or where they returned?

Georgia needs the world to demand a cease fire to stop this conflict before it goes beyond the state its in and bring WWIII to reality.

SOLARLIFE

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at 02:41 on August 10th, 2008

amyjudd, I like this story. good researched US view, best comment Emilio thanks for NY view. Missing some japanese quotings on the subject zichi. Peace prize goes to Paschen. Thanks to all keeping this conflict on local level. EU/US ceasefire group on the way, try to broker a deal sunday evening.

Emilio Lizardo

at 02:57 on August 10th, 2008

Fuhgettaboutit ...

Milieunet

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at 07:33 on August 10th, 2008

amyjudd, I like this story. It's good stuff.

Fairbanks

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at 08:02 on August 10th, 2008

>They actually launched ballistic missile attacks on Georgian territory

Barrage rockets are tactical ballistic, but also unguided and relatively small, not Scuds or other IRBMs and similar in effect to an artillery barrage.

mchawk

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at 10:02 on August 10th, 2008

amyjudd, I like this story. It's good stuff.

I'm getting flashbacks to the disinformation battles of the Cold War

Dima Bashinskyy (not verified)

at 10:21 on August 13th, 2008

Ppl I am a citizen of Ukraine and just so you know a lot of articles like this are false because some of them are saying that Russia started the war its false cause Georgia attacked Ossetia first and because Russia had a piecemaker mission there it had to defend Ossetia because it was Russia's duty and right now they are not attacking Georgia or something they are just destroing all sources of gun and rocket fireing in Georgia to stop it from bombing Ossetia this is fair enough.

René

at 12:07 on August 13th, 2008

Weeks before bombs started falling on Georgia, a security researcher in suburban Massachusetts was watching an attack against the country in cyberspace.

An image from the Web site of the Georgian Parliament after it had been defaced.

Related Times Topics: Georgia
Jose Nazario of Arbor Networks in Lexington noticed a stream of data directed at Georgian government sites containing the message: “win+love+in+Rusia.”

Other Internet experts in the United States said the attacks against Georgia’s Internet infrastructure began as early as July 20, with coordinated barrages of millions of requests — known as distributed denial of service, or D.D.O.S., attacks — that overloaded and effectively shut down Georgian servers.

Researchers at Shadowserver, a volunteer group that tracks malicious network activity, reported that the Web site of the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, had been rendered inoperable for 24 hours by multiple D.D.O.S. attacks. read the rest on the NYTimes-->

everchanging

at 16:29 on August 13th, 2008

Wow René that's a great catch. Most interesting and informative.
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“It costs about 4 cents per machine,” Mr. Woodcock said. “You could fund an entire cyberwarfare campaign for the cost of replacing a tank tread, so you would be foolish not to.”

In addition to D.D.O.S. attacks that crippled Georgia’s limited Internet infrastructure, researchers said there was evidence of redirection of Internet traffic through Russian telecommunications firms beginning last weekend. The attacks continued on Tuesday, controlled by software programs that were located in hosting centers controlled by a Russian telecommunications firms. A Russian-language Web site, stopgeorgia.ru, also continued to operate and offer software for download used for D.D.O.S. attacks. Source: nytimes.com

张家界旅游 (not verified)

at 19:14 on August 18th, 2008

A servant is known by his master's absence.
A silent tongue and true heart are the most admirable things on earth.
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Human (not verified)

at 13:21 on August 20th, 2008

People
of the world. You deceive! World mass media conduct propagation of a
false information. Russia DID NOT ATTACK Georgia! 07.08.2008 at 22:00
Georgia has attacked South Ossetia. At 3:30 08.08.2008 tanks of the
Georgian armies have entered into city Tskhinvali. Artillery
bombardment all the day long proceeded, fights with use of tanks and
heavy combat material, both against ossetic armies, and against peace
inhabitants were conducted. 2000 civil people already were lost. The
Russian peacemakers have arrived to South Ossetia in the evening
08.08.2008 for settlement of the conflict and prompting of the world in
republic and protection of the Russian citizens living on territory of
South Ossetia. Georgia has attacked South Ossetia on eve of Olympiad,
it is top of cruelty and cynicism. Proofs and video-materials look on :

http://www.1tvrus .com/ ,
http://www.1t v.ru/owa/win/ort6_main.main ,
http://www.rian.ru/ ,
http://www.vesti.ru/news ,
http://news.ntv.ru/ ,
http://www.ren-tv.com/ ,
http://www.newsru.com/ .
We shall tell is not present to WAR!!!

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