Rand Paul's Remarks re Civil Rights Stir Historical Memories

by Susan Marie Kovalinsky | May 27, 2010 at 03:03 pm
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Jay Bookman resurrects the Goldwater Campaign Ad many still recall, and tells why Rand Paul's Civil Rights remarks stir bad historical memories 


Nietzsche used as one of the greatest insults he could hurl at a man, the line, "He has no historical sense". This came to mind for me recently during the fuss over Rand Paul's now retracted comments on the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Intellectually, his Libertarian principles and arguments are coming from a very pure place: Intellectually, they are pristine. Historically, they are like the faux pas a naive guest makes at the dinner table: Touching with callousness on a topic where the wounds are deep, and the memories still haunt.

The best sense I have seen of this is the journalist below, who is so eloquent as to be worthy of being quoted at length: The Goldwater Ad is his finding as well:

From Jay Bookman,

How Rand Paul’s libertarian streak ran afoul of history

. . . On a purely intellectual level, you can make a valid if unconvincing argument to that effect. But the strong similarity between that position and the clear appeal to racism in the flyer helps explain why the public reacted so strongly to Paul’s argument, however based in principle it might be. Paul was naive to expect any other reaction.

The flyer is also an artifact of a transition point in U.S. politics. In 1960, in a race that was decided by a razor-thin margin nationwide, Democrat John F. Kennedy defeated Republican Richard M. Nixon in Georgia by the overwhelming margin of 62.5 percent to 37.4 percent. Even Kennedy’s Catholicism couldn’t threaten the South’s strong ties to the Democratic Party. (And yes, Catholicism was still an issue back then in the South. My Virginia-born grandmother, I’m told, was not very happy to be introduced to my father’s Catholic bride-to-be.)

Bookman continues by pointing out that four years later, after LBJ’s signing of the Civil Rights Act and Goldwater’s strategic use for the campaign ad,   everything changed and Georgia voted Republican for the first time ever.

 It was not close,  not by a long shot:   Goldwater pulled 54.1 % to LBJ’s 45.9 %.  The only other states that Goldwater carried that year — in addition to his native Arizona — were South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, none of which had voted Republican since Reconstruction.

Another point, beautifully put, and by a Tea Party supporter and right winger, who sees, who comprehends, the crux of the very considerable blunder Paul has made:

Paul is in very hot water, as well he should be. To be sure, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 has been perverted, post-passage, in some deplorable respects. But Paul apparently was disagreeing with core premises and provisions of the Act as passed, i.e., the view that a restaurant or a hotel cannot deny people service based on their race and that private employers cannot reject job applicants on that basis.The Civil Rights Act of 1964, including its public accommodations and employment provisions, is one of the greatest legislative achievements in American history. It was instrumental in extending to all Americans the promise of our founding, including the basic freedoms and liberties white Americans enjoy.It isn't shocking that Rand Paul wants to revisit the wisdom of infringing on the right of racists to deny basic services, and the opportunity to earn a decent living, to African-Americans based on their race. There is a type of libertarian who still wants to fight this battle. What's shocking is that the Republican party, on the strength of the Tea party movement, has apparently nominated one of them to run for the United States Senate. Source: Powerline

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JoshArizona

I've already wrote about this extensively, The federal government does not have the right to tell someone who they can or can't serve or allow on their private property.

I am not a racist and nothing angers me more than intolerance.

But, even though we disagree with racists. We still believe they have the right to say whatever they want, just like the rest of us.

The federal government cannot tell someone who they can and can't allow in their own house, same applies to their business.

It's not about whether we support racism or not. It's about an individuals rights to expression and property.

Rand Paul is not a racist. He holds the same opinion as I have stated, just like many libertarians.


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stejeb

Your argument on this one is indefensible Josh. Look back at history, do you want to see the segregation return, people turned away from businesses, bus companies that won't carry black people, or make them sit seperately?

It cannot be left to individuals to decide which race can or can't use it's facilities, quite simply put, the law HAD to be made in the first place for damn good reasons, and the reasons and need for that law are still  just as valid today.

If people don't want to serve those of other races, then they really don't belong in business, and they really don't belong in a country which claims to value freedom so highly.

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nanute

If you don't like my added photo, remove it at your discretion. I thought it rather appropriate.

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Susan Marie Kovalinsky

I like it!!!

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Karen Hatter

Both Ron and his son opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, for forcing private businesses to integrate. They will claim that it is for “libertarian” reasons. But if you look deeper into the Ron Paul “Revolution,” you will see that it is just as connected to white supremacist movements as libertarian ones. Ron Paul is not your traditional ideological Libertarian. His brand of Libertarianism is rooted in the John Birch Society and the Ludwig Von Mises Institute. Both of these institutions try and hide their racism, while promoting racist policies.

You would think that Republican philosophies on race would have changed in 50 years. Still, Rand and Ron’s philosophy on Civil Rights is no different than Barry Goldwater’s, who ran for President in 1964 with the support of the John Birch Society and racist whites in the South who wanted to continue segregation.

History has shown how the U.S. Constitution was used, on the floor of the U.S. Senate, to defend U.S. southern states' rights to lynch anyone, mainly Black people, for nearly 100 years, as the states claimed the federal government had no right to interfere in their internal affairs.

U.S. southern senators have explained their belief it was their right and duty to lynch Black people when they felt helpless in the face of government intervention after the Civil War and beyond.

 As a final entry on CHM (Confederate History Month), I want to suggest one last thing that should never be forgotten--the Confederate cause not only gave us the white supremacist who killed Lincoln, it also gave us the  most infamous domestic terrorists group in this country's history--the Ku Klux Klan. The Klan was formed by Confederate vets. Among them, Nathan Bedford Forrest, whose troops massacred surrendering black soldiers at Fort Pillow. John B. Gordon, who fought at Gettysburg and Antietam, headed the KKK in Georgia.     The Klan was initially defeated in the 1870s by some of the same generals who defeated the Confederacy, and some of the same black soldiers who fought the Confederacy in the 1860s. Holdovers morphed into other groups, like the Redshirts of South Carolina who were little more than the thug-wing of the state's Democratic party. "Pitchfork" Ben Tillman, (pictured above) who fought as for the Confederacy as a very young man, was a Redshirt.     Tillman also was the state's governor and a United States Senator. He used that latter office to defend lynching, and the flouting of the Constitution:     I want to call the Senator's attention to one fact. He said that the Republican party gave the negroes the ballot in order to protect themselves against the indignities and wrongs that were attempted to be heaped upon them by the enactment of the black code. I say it was because the Republicans of that day, led by Thad Stevens, wanted to put white necks under black heels and to get revenge. There is a difference of opinion. You have your opinion about it, and I have mine, and we can never agree.     I want to ask the Senator this proposition in arithmetic: In my State there were 135,000 negro voters, or negroes of voting age, and some 90,000 or 95,000 white voters. General Canby set up a carpetbag government there and turned our State over to this majority. Now, I want to ask you, with a free vote and a fair count, how are you going to beat 135,000 by 95,000? How are you going to do it? You had set us an impossible task. You had handcuffed us and thrown away the key, and you propped your carpetbag negro government with bayonets. Whenever it was necessary to sustain the government you held it up by the Army.     Mr. President, I have not the facts and figures here, but I want the country to get the full view of the Southern side of this question and the justification for anything we did. We were sorry we had the necessity forced upon us, but we could not help it, and as white men we are not sorry for it, and we do not propose to apologize for anything we have done in connection with it. We took the government away from them in 1876. We did take it. If no other Senator has come here previous to this time who would acknowledge it, more is the pity. We have had no fraud in our elections in South Carolina since 1884. There has been no organized Republican party in the State.
 
We did not disfranchise the negroes until 1895. Then we had a constitutional convention convened which took the matter up calmly, deliberately, and avowedly with the purpose of disfranchising as many of them as we could under the fourteenth and fifteenth amendments. We adopted the educational qualification as the only means left to us, and the negro is as contented and as prosperous and as well protected in South Carolina to-day as in any State of the Union south of the Potomac.     He is not meddling with politics, for he found that the more he meddled with them the worse off he got. As to his "rights"--I will not discuss them now. We of the South have never recognized the right of the negro to govern white men, and we never will. We have never believed him to be equal to the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him. I would to God the last one of them was in Africa and that none of them had ever been brought to our shores. But I will not pursue the subject further.

The nonsensical attempt to couch support for bigots in an indefensible fog of philosophical absurdity, when in REALITY, bigots harangued, terrorized and murdered, at will, an entire group of first enslaved then freed people, for centuries, based solely on the color of their skin, in the United States, should not be tolerated when attempts are made to concretize those philosophical absurdities into an alternate, racist reality.

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Rory Cripps


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Susan Marie Kovalinsky

Did some first class idjut perchance post terribly and then delete?  Eh???

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Rory Cripps

You talkin' to me, Lucy? I got no splaneing to do. MINCHIA! HA! Doesn't take much to push the buttons.  :)  I said it all with a smile on my face! See:  :)  :)  :)  :) 

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JoshArizona

"They will claim that it is for “libertarian” reasons. But if you look deeper into the Ron Paul “Revolution,” you will see that it is just as connected to white supremacist movements as libertarian ones."

Seriously? Are you kidding me?

You have obviously never even sat down for 10 minutes to actually listen to Ron's views.

Ron nor Rand have ever endorsed a racist view, not once.

They both have stated multiple times, that they believe that racism is the ugliest form of collectivism.

Obviously, we are not operating on the same level of reasoning ability here.

I never thought I would see the day, when the only people looking out for your civil liberites were attacked as racists.

I guess, Libertarians must be the bad guys.............

It's not those republicans or democrats, passing all the domestic spying, tax, unlawful detainment, and unconstitutional bills.

We're the bad guys...................

Just bury your head further up your ass America, and everything will be fine as long as you stay in there.

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Karen Hatter

I have indeed listened to both Ron Paul and Rand Paul. I repeat:

The nonsensical attempt to couch support for bigots in an indefensible fog of philosophical absurdity, when in REALITY, bigots harangued, terrorized and murdered, at will, an entire group of first enslaved then freed people, for centuries, based solely on the color of their skin, in the United States, should not be tolerated when attempts are made to concretize those philosophical absurdities into an alternate, racist reality.

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Rory Cripps

JEEZ Karen! Sounds very philosophical!

 . . . attempts are made to concretize those philosophical absurdities into an alternate, racist reality.


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Karen Hatter

Rory, Rand Paul, for a number of years and since he began campaigning as a candidate for the U.S. Senate in Kentucky and much like his father, has been expressing his dislike for legislation that spans 80 years of federal law, seemingly wishing to 'correct' federal legislation that has been enacted with which he disagrees, laws not fitting with his libertarian views.

That's one reason he and his supporters have been offering the 'out of both sides of their mouths' apologia for his comments on the Civil Rights Act of 1964, stating although in principle he doesn't agree with what was done by the federal government regarding parts of the Civil Rights Act, he will not push for the repeal of the act.

Evidently, Rand Paul's belief system sets him at odds with an unknown number of laws that have been passed by Congress since the 1930s.

It is unknown which federal laws it is or if Rand Paul may seek to reconfigure to his liking and philosophy, resulting in " .... attempts (being) made to concretize those philosophical absurdities into an alternate, racist reality."

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JoshArizona

They aren't supporting the bigots statements or views, they defend the freedom of speech and property rights of EVERYONE on principle.

It's not just about the bigots, if you don't believe everyone is entitled to the same rights as you, then you would be unprincipled.

If you support individual freedom, you can't pick and choose which individuals are entitled to freedom.

Everyone has the right to speech, no matter how ugly their statements are, And everyone has the right to their own property.

The first amendment wasn't put in place solely to protect popular speech, it exists to protect unpopular beliefs.



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Karen Hatter

The nonsensical attempt to couch support for bigots in an indefensible fog of philosophical absurdity should not be tolerated WHEN ATTEMPTS ARE MADE TO CONCRETIZE THOSE PHILOSOPHICAL ABSURDITIES INTO AN ALTERNATE, RACIST REALITY

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JoshArizona

Ya, lets not use reason. What has it ever done for humanity...........................

By trying to have an intelligent conversation about equal individual rights for all, I must really be trying to set up an "ALTERNATE, RACIST REALITY".

.Makes perfect sense, if you throw logic out the window.


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Rory Cripps

JEEZ! Sure glad Josh arrived! Now I can take a rest, kick back, and watch him and Karen go at it! Better than anything that's on TV!  :)

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Karen Hatter

Rand Paul is attempting to set up an " .... alternate, racist (and discriminatory) reality" if, for instance, Rand Paul plans to attempt to re-visit, introduce and pass legislation, if elected to the U.S. Senate, against fair housing and any other laws against Libertarian principles, arguing freedom of association and private property, while giving lip service to abhoring racial discrimination as collectivism, while in the REAL world, a clear path and foundation toward discrimination is being laid.

"The Daily News ignores," wrote Paul, "as does the Fair Housing Act, the distinction between private and public property. Should it be prohibited for public, taxpayer-financed institutions such as schools to reject someone based on an individual's beliefs or attributes? Most certainly. Should it be prohibited for private entities such as a church, bed and breakfast or retirement neighborhood that doesn't want noisy children? Absolutely not."

In language similar to the language he's used talking about the Civil Rights Act, Paul criticized racism while defending the right of businesses to discriminate.

"A free society will abide unofficial, private discrimination," wrote Paul, "even when that means allowing hate-filled groups to exclude people based on the color of their skin. It is unenlightened and ill-informed to promote discrimination against individuals based on the color of their skin. It is likewise unwise to forget the distinction between public (taxpayer-financed) and private entities."

As I've said, his and his father's defense of discrimination on the grounds offered is the same as those of the nativist movement among White nationalists/supremacists, tactics used for nearly 100 years after the end of the Civil War.

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Karen Hatter
The Kentucky Senate, reacting to a divisive comment by Republican Rand Paul, has adopted a resolution declaring any form of discrimination to be inconsistent with American values.

Louisville Democratic Sen. Gerald Neal introduced the resolution Friday during a special session on the state budget. It was adopted without objection in the predominantly Republican chamber.

Neal, Kentucky's only black state senator, said he took personal offense at the comment made last week by Paul, a U.S. Senate candidate, who was criticizing the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

It is also reported Senator Neal :

.... said Paul's "extreme belief" has made Kentucky "a laughingstock."
 

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