The 'real motive' for President Obama's speech to schoolchildren

by Rhonda J Mangus | September 8, 2009 at 07:53 am
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Evidently Salon.com receives e-mails from a wide range of Conspiracy Theorists and one let them know about the 'real motive' for President Obama's speech to schoolchildren to be streamed live today to schoolchildren across the nation on whitehouse.gov/live at 12:00 PM ET from Arlington, Va.

You see, Obama has planned his speech not for purposes of indoctrination, as many on the right are claiming. Oh, no -- his planning goes deeper, and more evil than that. Really, he's trying to distract from a procedural hearing in Orly Taitz's Birther lawsuit on behalf of Alan Keyes, the one in which she's now filed yet another fake Kenyan birth certificate that supposedly proves Obama wasn't born in the U.S.

Allow the blog where our e-mailer got their information to explain:

As an observer of the Oba-Hussein Administration strategy and tactics, which increasingly seems to misjudge the minds of the American people and bask in the narcissistic glow of accolades from their core admirers and bought supporters, it occurred to me that the choice of Tuesday September 8th to try to hog the national news scene has much to do with another MAJOR event taking place on that date at 8:00 a.m. in Santa Ana, California.

Oba-Hussein well knows that most of the nation's schools start on September 9th, so making his message to schools when most are not yet starting CLEARLY shows he is trying to suck the oxygen out of the news cycle with this high-sounding but fraudulent pep talk to empty schools and try to bury the ELIGIBILITY story.

Federal District Court Judge, David O. Carter, will begin hearing the Obama eligibility case brought by Orly Taitz on behalf of Presidential candidate Alan Keyes and some 200 military clients, who all demand Obama provide valid documentation to prove he is eligible to be President of the USA and also to be Commander in Chief and issue/approve military orders.


The above is from the blog calling itself "Anti-Mullah". It can be read in it's entirety, here.

Previous NowPublic coverage on President Obama's Speech to Schoolchildren can be read, here.

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Sgt. Victor Rodriguez (Marine Corps)

Really, are these people that stupid. Apparently the bible has done little for the progression and evolution of their minds. Pathetic.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Perhaps, Sgt. Victor Rodriquez. Nevertheless, everyone as the right to both raise questions and question. In fact, everyone has the right to question everything!:) without name-calling, labeling, etc.;  this does nothing to encourage healthy debate. Thanks for reading and commenting!



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Garrett Cobarr

You characterize the above article as encouraging healthy debate? Tolerating intolerance is not healthy or democratic.

The President of the United States is addressing school children, nothing more, nothing less. Like every other President in the past.

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albertacowpoke

Lol Here we go again.  Most of this is getting laughable by now.  Hopefully the mystery gets solved soon in court. 

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The_Cynic

Did you see the post I put up about WND, ACP?


The gist is that someone put up a "genuine" Kenyan birth certificate for Obama and had to pledge in court that it was real - this birth certificate was put up for sale on Ebay. Has to be the real thing then. /sarc

And, added to that the WND's contributors believes that Harry Potter is the anti-Christ.

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albertacowpoke

I just read it now TC.  Thanks for the tip:)

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Rhonda J Mangus

The_Cynic, thank you for reading, commenting, and for the recommendation! For the reader's convenience here is your story: Questioning Credibility in WND - Wingnuttery? An interesting Opinion piece:)! Thanks again!



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Rhonda J Mangus

Hopefully, albertacowpoke! If my understanding is correct, Judge David O. Carter, a former MARINE, is the first judge willing to hear this case. Unfortunately, I am having difficulty obtaining any solid information on it. But when I do...:)

Thanks for reading, commenting and for the recommendation:)!



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QueensHart

I suggest you read another Cynical person here who is not a Wing Nut.  Let's add some perspective without the name calling.  He has the article here at NP which I have separated some great sentences in order to encourage people to read them which opposers tend to not do if it is too   From the National Examiner

The Cynical Patriot at NOW PUBLIC

.  "The Nazi's did not tell the German people what their true intentions were

.  In establishing the Hitler Youth Group they did not disclose that they would indoctrinate the children with hate and absolute loyalty to Adoph Hitler and the Nazi Party

.  Not at least until they had a firm grip on power and noone dared to oppose them because of the obvious hopelessness and consequences of doing so. 

So please understand that persons like myself and like-minded individuals do not criticize President Obama's address of the children of our country without good reason. 

 President Obama originally wanted our children to write letters about how they could help him

.  Does my just preceding reminder of how Hitler rose to power not now cause you the same concern for our constitution and country?

  If not, I would ask you to further study how Hilter rose to power and used propaganda and decepti

Having read the text, I find the message uplifting and motivating.  And therefore, my gut reaction would be to permit my child to hear it.  But then i must reflect.

  A persons initial planned direction, most often reflects their true feelings and intentions.  President Obama was going to have the children write him letters about how they could help him until he was confronted, vigorously.

And then I remember back to my lessons from history.  Hitler made several mis-steps before he perfected his rise to power.  His rise to power came incrementally

.  And there are many other actual things that President Obama and politicians in general have done that make me further question President Obama's true intent. And having further exposed his true intent with his original intention of soliciting letters of support from children, vulnerable to suggestion, I repeat my position that President Obama not be allowed to address our impressionable children.

Perception is Reality.  Unless, immediately following the speech, a similar amount of time is allowed for persons of opposing or differing views to counter-balance the Presidents Speech, Public School time should not be used for the children to be addressed by the President.  And persons better informed than myself, can provide an age below which any such speech is overly influencing on impressionable minds (or not understandable at all)  Those Parents that do not share my opinion are free to view it with their children online at home, or at the library. But the children of person who feel the same way as myself, should not forced to view President Obama's Speech

. World War II proved that every society need "free thinkers".

If the President wants to speak to and reinforce the vision for this country as envisioned by the Founding Father's and enshrined in the Constitution and Bill of Rights in concert with local political opponents, I welcome the opportunity for the American Nation to remind its children of the spirit and vision of the Founding Father's.  Sans a balanced program, I oppose President Obama addressing our children for the reasons I have provided throughout this article.

Respectfully Submitted,

Don Mashak

The Cynical Patriot

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Rhonda J Mangus

Always enlightening, QueensHart! Thank you for bringing Don's article to our attention! Your link does not appear to be working so readers can click here for convenience: Obama to address Children vs WW11 - Never let this happen again!




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QueensHart

Thanks Rhonda.  :  )   I tried to edit and add it but it kicked it out saying Spam..  I hope Don  does not mind I posted some good stuff that he provided a link too. 

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Rhonda J Mangus

You are very welcome! I'm sure he doesn't mind:)! Thanks again!



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albertacowpoke

The highlight below describes how Hitler grabbed absolute power.  This was after an election where the NAZIs received 46% of the vote, which didn't give them a majority.  This required them to share power with the DVNP.  Hitler was sworn in as chancellor and Van Papen the Vice Chancellor.  This was to contain the NAZIs.  Hindenburg died in August 1934 and that.s when the NAZIs passed a law making Hitler Fuehrer and Reichschancellor, consolidating the two offices.

This should not be confused with what is happening in the U.S.  I doubt that Obama could dissolve Congress.  I think we do need to be careful when we make comparisons.  It should also be noted that the German people were suffering a devastating defeat in World War I.  The conditions placed on them made their situation hopeless, thus permitting this rise to power. 

With this combination of legislative and executive power, Hitler's government further suppressed the remaining political opposition. The Communist Party of Germany and the Social Democratic Party (SPD) were banned, while all other political parties were forced to dissolve themselves. Finally, on 14 July, the Nazi Party was declared the only legal party in Germany.

Hitler used the SA paramilitary to push Hugenberg into resigning, and proceeded to politically isolate Vice-Chancellor Papen. Because the SA's demands for political and military power caused much anxiety among military and political leaders, Hitler used allegations of a plot by the SA leader Ernst Röhm to purge the SA's leadership during the Night of the Long Knives. As well, opponents unconnected with the SA were murdered, notably Gregor Strasser and former Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher.[61]

President Paul von Hindenburg died on 2 August 1934. Rather than holding new presidential elections, Hitler's cabinet passed a law proclaiming the presidency dormant and transferred the role and powers of the head of state to Hitler as Führer und Reichskanzler (leader and chancellor). As head of state, Hitler now became supreme commander of the armed forces. When it came time for the soldiers and sailors to swear the traditional loyalty oath, it had been altered into an oath of personal loyalty to Hitler.[62] In a mid-August plebiscite, these acts found the approval of 84.6% of the electorate.


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Rhonda J Mangus

albertacowpoke, thank you for providing the additional information! Of course, we always need to be careful when making comparisons. And, hopefully, access to a wide range of information should permit individuals to do this. But, as you know, parallels are seen by some where they are not seen by others even though situations may appear, on the surface, very different. Thanks again!




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jazzyzazzy

Just hope the children are not being used as pawns. To the kids its a big deal seeing the president. Its just another part of his work afterall.

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Grace H

How could they be manipulated so? There is nothing for the President to gain here. No brownie points as so many people (I say so lightly, they should have their IQ tested) think its some type of evil plot. And no political points as plenty also think he should be fixing the eco or health care system instead of preping for the future. 

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Rhonda J Mangus

Dare I say, "Let's hope not!" Thanks, jazz!


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Amy Judd

Wow is all I have to say about that...

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Grace H

There is no way in hell he could dissolve Congress. Honestly all of these fear mongerers have obviously never read the Constitution. All I have to say to that is please heed Pres. Obama's call for taking education seriously.

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Amy Judd

I didn't say anything about that Grace, I just said 'Wow' in the sense that 'wow, I can't believe what some people think'. I never said anything about dissolving Congress, or fear mongering, or the Constitution.

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Grace H

Sry. Hit reply instead of comment.

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Amy Judd

Oh that's ok, I just got confused. :)

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Rhonda J Mangus

:)


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Barry Artiste

WEll dont that beat all!

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Rhonda J Mangus

Barry, it very well could!:) Thanks for reading, commenting, and for the recommendation!



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bpulhem

In regards to a line from "Alberta Cowpoke" with Germany suffering a devastating defeat". The Republican Party suffered a devastating defeat in the last election as did the Dems in 1994. The South suffered a devastating defeat during the civil war. What I have observed on the political front which has many extreme ultra rightists located in the South is that they may not be able to help themselves in many ways. They will never recover from the fact that they not only lost the battle-they lost the War. The activities of some of these Southern Politics such as Joe Wilson from South Carolina to take flight from protocol and call the President a liar before a Joint Session of Congress clearly illustrates this. As I speak descendants of those who not only lost the battle but the War are delerious in their support of his outburst. To be sure-there are many migrants to the South including my In-Laws who lucked out during the Housing boom selling their decrepit Row House in East New York-Brooklyn and buying a Ranch home for cash in South Carolina. They are of Puerto Rican descent. Within a year they had been converted to stalwart Conservatives completely forgetting the Center and its meaning in helping them to achieve the dream so many of us desire. Sad to say-I would not be very surprised if in the near future they come up with an even loonier conspiracy theory against the Obama Administration.

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a211423

Within a year they had been converted to stalwart Conservatives completely forgetting the Center and its meaning in helping them to achieve the dream so many of us desire.

Thank you for relating this personal experience and observation.  It's either human nature or just easier to "go with flow" of thoughts and ideas to which one is subjected.  It's related to the psychological condition called Stockholm Syndrome where a hostage if kept long enough will develop sympathies and emotional attachment to their captors.  Immersion into another culture would be traumatic, and I believe The South is a different culture, so I am surprised your in-laws could hold out for a year!  I think its a survival technique, and any of us could be subject to it.  Standing by one's beliefs is noble, but how long could we do it if some day we find ourselves surrounded.  

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bpulhem

What I find stunning is that, they were 18 children born and raised in a shanty in the Mountaintops region of Puerto Rico. No indoor plumbing and really-did not have much with the exception of what the Government provided. Thankfully, most of them found their way up and out, received some good education compliments of the generosity  of taxpayers and found their way to our Coast during the Fifties and Sixties. Out of the 18 at least 10 moved into very good positions in industry and one sister Pioneered to Anderson South Carolina. Others followed including the step father of my wife whom I helped move from his squallid Row House back in 2005. We have beeen close but it was a huge surprise to me less than a year after this move that he talked one language to me Politically and spoke with Passion with his family quite the opposite. What I found extremely appalling is that the Son of one of his Sisters is a ranking Officer with the Florida State Police. On his facebook page was an "app" calling for signatures to rid us of President Obama.. I have since made it clear to them all that our views differ sharply and that it best our conversations remain in a general sense of the weather and how are ya.

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Hazel D

President Obama's latest push on health care was stated oh his speech last night and it was something else.  Of course, conservative nut jobs are going to blast the President's speech last night as signs of advancing socialism, though at this point someone is a communist if they properly construct a sentence.  The speech was about health care, as it's turning into a pitched battle, and he reached across both sides of the aisle to find solutions – and he acknowledged that he wasn't the first to try to tackle this problem, but he was determined to be the last as he doesn't want to see Americans need payday advances for cold medicine.  It's all over the internet, so you can see the President's speech last night without needing payday cash advances.

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