Religious discrimination against the people of “The Old Path” gets bitter

by truthoriented | July 14, 2008 at 07:54 pm
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The members of the Ang Dating Daan (or how the group of Members Church of God International has been known in the Philippines) has for long endured religious discriminations and harrassments from government and its religious opponents.

In the Philippines, the separation of the religion and state is blurred as some powerful religions can dictate a politician's term in the government seat.  Philippine government is believed influenced by powerful religious groups who promise votes and support come elections.   

Eli Soriano, the preacher and spiritual leader of the Ang Dating Daan group, is holding the Truth and in his exposes of the shenanigans and malpractices in religion, his religious opponents vent their anger by using their sly and power through harassment and persecution. 

The hostilities against the Members Church of God International (MCGI) are unjustifiable. No other religious organization in the Philippines gets the same unjust treatment from the government and the combined efforts of influential religious sectors in this country. Despite the goodwill MCGI sends out to all, religious discrimination against the people of “Ang Dating Daan” gets bitter. MCGI expects this to continue as long as it stands.

Here is one article which I think can give a background on how much persecution the religious group Ang Dating Daan is experiencing from government.  Here is an excerpt from one written in the Double-Edged Sword blog -

This Church is being persecuted today. Its enemies think bringing its leaders to the courts will drain its resources, but first of all shut the mouth of its presiding minister, Bro. Eli Soriano. True enough, they are draining off resources that what had been earmarked for definite concerns now go to defending the church in terms of attorney’s fees, publication expenses to the public, documentation, and other coping activities including spending for security measures arising from the evil schemes of enemies. This Church and its members are deprived not only of resources but of justice. Subsumed are the viewing public taken off Bro. Eli’s teachings which deprivation has manifested in their flocking to the other medium of radio and calling incessantly for a return to television. They wonder that a preacher being heard 24 hours a day worldwide through the radio, the TV, and the internet should be shut up in his very own country.



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Stormchaser 1

It is a clear picture of what is going on right now in the Philippines.  "Hindi ba kayo titigil sa pagpapasama sa daan ng katwiran?" I guess not, it has all been prophesied in the Bible.  The Lord Jesus Christ was persecuted to death, and we are just his humble servants... "Hindi dakila ang alipin kaysa kanyang Panginoon." Well, what can we do except to endure all these, in the end, it will all be revealed before God.  At least we have the MOST SENSIBLE PREACHER of our time who still teaches us that in spite of everything let us not do evil to the people who persecute us.  Unlike other religious leaders who encourage their members to be violent rationalizing it with this "Ang pumatay dahil sa sugo ay ligtas"! It may be ttrue if the SUGO is real but if it is a SUGO by mistake, well you are doomed...

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shadow hunter

Who is sensible?Eli Soriano who pretends to know everything?when in fact he just picks them up from other belief and teachings?and when you scrutinize it you'll find them untrue?Or is it sensible that a gay is acceptable by god?We all know that he gay maybe that's why, and maybe he/she(ELI) should understand that god created only MAN and WOMAN.

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endanna

God is so good to his people. its really a great pleasure to have a preacher like bro eli soriano... a true and the only one sensible preacher in our time. Despite of all the persecutions he is still in support to everybody. God bless you bro eli soriano..To God be the Glory!!!!!

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neo®

One thing is for sure, The Old Path is the only organization that is preaching the word of truth and has a very sensible preacher. Two thumbs up guys!

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downtownbabeoflosangeles

this really shows that goverment officials of the Philippines doesnt have their own disposition and quality of mind. they were ruled & influenced by money only and this is really a big shame for our country. that's why a lot of good people from our country migrate from another country coz of our goverment hostilies to them. this is a true and clear explanation that our country was ruled by those religious organizations who are fond  of doing evil, who worships satan...shame on them!  GOD IS TRUTH and do not  ever mess with the ANG DATING DAAN members because they are the people of GOD!

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downtownbabeoflosangeles

*HOSTILITIES

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downtownbabeoflosangeles

*hostilities****

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Albert Milliron

While the title talks about discrimination, Ang Dating Daan, has removed itself from some of the major doctrines of the orthodox church.  The leader has also be indicted for rape and fondling of members.  It has also been charged from gross missapproriation of funds.  So what is called discrimination my be out rage directed at church leaders who have used their position for personal gain.  When one uses the bible as thier main text, folks will compare ones behaviour with the words in the book.

poitisite is a guest editor at NowPublic. The views expressed here are the writers opinion and do not represent the views of NowPublic.

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truthoriented

I cannot blame you if you have learned or obtained all these information in the internet, but there are risks.  If one is to get information on the Internet, one should not passively swallow it but instead ask the more important questions - Who is writing? What is this writer trying to tell me? Do they have the facts, supporting details on why they know what they know?

From here I would quote one author I read in another citizen journalism site, newsvine, who said that - "Great journalism isn’t going to stop well-funded spin experts from sending out lies and half-truths over the internet, and without a healthy dose of skepticism, that information can be dangerous."

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truthoriented

Hi Politisite, definitely the reason charges after charges are piling up against Eli Soriano, in the context of the Philippine and religious environment here, is the influence and power used by Ang Dating Daan's arch-opponent, the Iglesia ni Cristo who are using excommunicated members of the organization to file fabricated charges of crimes and among them is rape. 

Here is a short background on this certain Daniel Veridiano, the one who filed the fabricated rape case against Soriano. You will see that further and deeper check on the web will reveal that this Veridiano was ex-communicated in the congregation for molesting and sexually-harassing his subordinates.

He was also guilty of malversation of funds for his personal use. It was Veridiano who was the known rapist in the congregation but filed a rape case against Soriano, after he failed to obtain the pardon he asked from the preacher following various complaints lodged against him. Having now gone to the Iglesia ni Cristo, arch enemy of the congregation of Soriano,Veridiano has taken refuge in a powerful church group that holds sway with the powers that be in the Philippines for its block voting practices.

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truthoriented

Another thing, even the justice department's head who is a member of this Iglesia ni Cristo religion, used its power to pull out from a fiscal's docket an already dismissed rape case.

Charges of misappropriation of funds cannot all be more true given that Soriano would rather work his way to even fund his foundation and other charity works such as giving of free bus rides, feeding programs for poor children in the cities, and in the coming months, giving of free nightly stay for homeless people in a project dubbed as transient homes.  For this statement of yours, I beg to disagree.


In the Philippines, if you will ask people, especially the poor ones, they will surely have all but good words for Soriano.

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Stormchaser 1

"The leader has also be indicted for rape and fondling of members.  It has also been charged from gross missapproriation of funds.  So what is called discrimination my be out rage directed at church leaders who have used their position for personal gain."


Oh yeah! And who are those people suing our leaders? Are they people of good character that you people would rather listen to?  Its like you would rather listen to Judas the traitor than the good apostles.  Is that the trend now?  Well it has happened even before, false accusations led to Jesus' death when the people chose Barabas over Jesus.  What was mentioned above are just accsations that still have to be proven but it seems you have all accepted them as true without due process.  As long as it is Bro Eli, he is guilty, but if priests and other "religious" leaders were involved, you wont even give it a portion of your time much like the time you spend writing about the bad things you imagine to be true about Bro Eli.  Even if Bro. Eli would get himself killed doing good to people who doesn't even know him, you will still remember all the bad things scrupulous people throw at him. Well that it also prophesied in the Bible, that the eyes of men are draped and that the justices give their judgment because of money. We can not do anything if that is the perspective you wish to cling to.  As for us, we will still do good even if others would mock and throw negative issues at us.  As  I have said, in the end, it is still between God and you. No doubt we try our best to do good to others, even to the people who are not members of this organization.  Beat that!!!

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Stormchaser 1

hey politisite, why don't you write about the good things and activities that your church is involved in? we'll be anticipating....

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armageddonnewsflash

politisite,


You are definitely correct when you said, "when one uses the bible as thier main text, folks will compare ones behaviour with the words in the book."

Actually politisite, at the end of the day, if only you can read what is plainly written, this is what you can read too!

Job 28:

 "22 Destruction and Death say, 'Only a rumor of it has reached our ears.'


You see, politisite, your behaviour is well written in the Holy Book! You did not compare an account and weigh them fairly, you just relayed a rumor. Then what are you? You are more of a rumor mongerer, than an editor, that is! You are a false witness!

The true account politisite is this, you posted yourself as a witness against Bro Eli and from there, you are now conveniently convicting him by being a "guest editor" and a false witness in writing! And your likes are those Iglesia ni Cristo ni Manalo, who instead of facing the debate Bro Eli challenged them, they chose to continue this kind of bad mouthing that they are very good at.

politisite, now that you have shown your true color, let me read another verses to you:

Proverbs 12:17
A truthful witness gives honest testimony, but a false witness tells lies.

Proverbs 14:5

A truthful witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

Proverbs 14:25

A truthful witness saves lives, but a false witness is deceitful.

politisite, if you want to continue to be an editor, fine! But be fair for the sake of the Truth!

Exodus 23:1
"Do not spread false reports. Do not help a wicked man by being a malicious witness.

politisite, from which religion do you belong? Why not introduce yourself from which religious or non religious affiliation do you belong and give the readers the respect they deserve to know who they believe in!

Acts 6:13

They produced false witnesses, who testified, "This fellow never stops speaking against this holy place and against the law.

Matthew 26:59
The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death.


To those who are cleaving and wanted to cleave to The Church of God, you know that Bro Eli Soriano reads us the truth from the Holy Bible. And no one in this era is able to read to us the commandments and teach to us to obey everything that Jesus Christ commanded, except Bro Eli! We know for a fact and by faith because we too are reading the Holy Scriptures as we were taught to read and to practice the good deeds that  we learned as Christians.

Matthew 28:

18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." 

Brothers and Sisters, we know that we are presided by a man sent by God because he speaks of what is written! Definitely, Brother Eli Soriano practices what he preached! He is a leader with good moral standing and can defend as in matters of faith!

We were definitely not taught that we are saved if we kill for the sake of our Ministers, the kind of doctrines of the Iglesia ni Manlo(INC-Manalo). We know very well too that false preachers are out there who obviously has no knowledge of the truth, no one dares to go and seek God but they chose financial gain!

Mark 10:19
You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.' "

And we know what we will continue to experience in the future! But for us to live is Christ, and to die is gain!

Matthew 5:11
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kins of evil against you because of me.

Let us continue to fight the good fight of faith! Be strong, God is with us! God knows best for all of us!

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Dodong

eli soriano (bakla) should blame himself because of his envy & bulgar words against the government and rich religions.

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truthoriented

You should refrain from using defamatory and invectives against the preacher Eli Soriano in this site.  In the first place, you are not commenting about the article, but on the person whom you hate.  Hate comments are serious violation in this site. 

Please also note that you should use English, an international language used by members of this site. 


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believer

your words only show what kind of person you are... i must say that you belong in a religion whom your leader never teaches you what is good. Bro eli may have flaws as a leader, yes because he is also a human (but we are not amenable to your accusations of him) but since he preaches the truth and sensible truths from the Bible, it is the teachings that he relays to us that we hold on to. anyway since you were posting here on the Filipino language, i would have to say that hindi kami sa mangangaral natitisod agad kundi sa aral na itinuro sa Biblia sa pamamagitan niya.


"Wala sa masasama ang makakaunawa..." isa ka na doon..

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believer

DODONG, your words only show what kind of person you are... i must say that you belong in a religion whom your leader never teaches you what is good. Bro eli may have flaws as a leader, yes because he is also a human (but we are not amenable to your accusations of him) but since he preaches the truth and sensible truths from the Bible, it is the teachings that he relays to us that we hold on to. anyway since you were posting here on the Filipino language, i would have to say that hindi kami sa mangangaral natitisod agad kundi sa aral na itinuro sa Biblia sa pamamagitan niya.


"Wala sa masasama ang makakaunawa..." isa ka na doon..

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Dodong

Alam ba ninyo kung papaano nagbibilang ng abuloy si Eli Soriano? Nakahubad kasama ang mga alipures niyang mga lalake at habang nagbibilang ng abuloy nila ay hinihipuan sa ari sila Dodong Erese, Hamillan, Daniel Veriadiano, Danny Navales at marami pang iba.


Alam ba ninyo kung papaano gumagawa ng leksiyon sa pagsamba nila si Eliseo Soriano? Hubo't hubad kasama si Puto at sinumang mapili niyang gawing secretary sa pagkakataong iyon habang hinhipuan niya ang ari. Ganiyan kababoy ang kinikilala ninyong sugo. Ayaw ninyong maniwala? Subukan ninyong itanong sa kaniya sa "Itanong kay Soriano". Kung hindi kayo pagkukurutin at hiyawan ng dalahirang si soriana.

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eritch

dodong,


kung sino ka man, kaw ang dalahira!!bakit nakita mu na ba kung papaano sila magbilang ng abuloy??sna bago ka nacomment nagresearch ka muna. hindi kasama si bro eli sa pagbibilang ng abuloy!!kilala ka namin kahit itago mu na totoong kulay at lahi mo!!tumigil na kayo!!Di kau marunong lumaban ng patas!!puro kayo paninira personal..sa aral tayo magbase, wag sa pisikal. sa mga sinsabi mong walang katotohanan, ang masasabi ko lang sayo "SAWAYIN KA NAWA NG PANGINOON"..MALIWANAGAN SNA ISIP MO..


ganyan lang kami, di kami PUMAPATAY NG TAO gaya ng iba jan..


ba't di ikaw ang magtanong sa ITANONG MO KAY SORIANO sa sinasabi para ikaw mismo makapagpatunay na MALING MALI ka!!!


PALABASIN NIYO AMO NIYO!!LUMABAN NG DEBATE KAY KAPATID NA ELI!!!para mas lalong magsilayasan mga miyoembro nioy!!dahil makikita nila KABULUKAN NG ARAL NIYO!!

DINI-DARE KITA!!USAPAN ARAL.....

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maric

Isa lang masasabi ko dyan....naging ADD asawa a month before ko ilabas sa mundo ang panganay kong anak...hindi nyo papangarapin maging ADD ang asawa nyo!

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truthoriented

Dodong, I understand why you didn't use your real name.  That is to give you total freedom to wreck, debase and humiliate a person.  Your account is even unverified as the system shows. 

You should be wary now why of all these negative things you are saying about the preacher Eli Soriano, the contrary is happening now. Today, his popularity is shooting up worldwide.  Just imagine how almost every day and almost non-stop, the clamor for him to appear in various Bible Expositions to answers people's questions about faith and spirituality are growing.  Did you know that in one Exposition he held abroad, the people could not contain their joy upon hearing how very different and unique Eli Soriano answers their questions, which in fact, he only reads from the Bible. Not interpreting them.    

And just recently, as it is now growing hard to contain, the church lead by Soriano opened a new program called Ang Dating Daan (The Old Path) By Demand, this is in response to the people and truth-seekers who are willing to ask questions and study the doctrines and teachings the man you called evil preaches the world over.  This program aired every Monday, Wednesday and Friday from 9pm at UNTV 37 is now a regular staple in late night viewing for me, personally.

Just chill down and open your eyes.  Am sure you know deep in your heart, what you are saying here are prompted by your hate. 

From what I hear from video testimonies shown in the new program By Demand, the guests and even newly-converts in this Church of God are also formerly hater of this preacher because he unflinchingly exposes and criticizes the false beliefs of their former religion. 

But by listening and listening to the man, they soon realized that Eli Soriano is sincere and only have compassion for their souls that is why he is compelled to tell the truth. 

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Dodong

Sige sa aral tayo mag-usap dahil hindi niyo rin naman nakikita kung papaano hinihipuan ni bakla este ni soriano si Danny Navales sa loob mismo ng kaniyang L300 noong year 2000 sa tuwing manggagaling sa SBN 21.


Hindi niyo rin nakausap ng personal ang apat na elementary public teacher na personal na nakita si soriana na niroromansa ang kaniyang driver na si Edong noong sinusundo niya ang kaniyang apo mula sa eskuwela. Hindi niyo rin nakita kung papaanong nakapatong si soriana kay edong sa isang hotel sa bicol. Hindi niyo rin nakikita kung sino ang mga halihinanng kasama ni bakla kapag naliligo.


Bakit? alam ba ninyo ang dahilan kung bakit ang mga malalapit sa kaniya na mga guwapong lalake ay katabi niya ang silid sa kaniyang bahay. Nakapasok na ba kayo sa kaniyang kuwarto? Nakita na ba ninyo ang mga liim na lagusan ni bakla mula sa kaniyang library patungo sa kuwarto nila hamillan? Hindi ba ninyo napapansin ang mga pilantik ng kaniyang daliri? Ang pagtili ng kaniyang boses? ang ugali niya bilang isang tunay na bakla at hindi tunay na sugo ng Diyos? Hindi ba ninyo napapansin kung papaanon siya naiinggit sa mga magagandang mga babae? Hindi ba ninyo napapansin kung papaano siya nagagalit? Galit ng isang hindi tunay na lalake kundi galit ng isang tunay na bakla?


Hindi ba ninyo napapansin kung bakit ayaw niyang magpayakap at magpahalin sa isang babae na kaanib na nasasabik kuno at ginagawa lang dahil sa maling pagkilala sa kaniyang bilang sugo ng Diyos? Hindi ba ninyo laging naririnig na sinasabi njiyang allergy siya sa halik ng babae? Sinabi ba niya sa ating mga pasalamatan na allergy siya sa halik ng isang lalake?


Nakita na ba ninyo na lagi siyang naka-duster kaag matutulog na?

Hindi ba ninyo nahahalata na gustong gusto niyang ipakita sa mga miyembro niya na seksi siya kay lagi siyang naka-short kapag nangangaral? Ugali ba iyan ng isang tunay na lalake? Paano siya magiging sgo ng Diyos. BAKA SUBO puwede pa.

Bakit hindi ninyo bukasan ang inyong mga mata?

Puntahan natin ang aral, sabi ninyo eh (mga bulag). Kung siya'y sugo ng Diyos katulad ng inyong maling pagkakilala, nasa inyo ba ang marapat na pagsamba sa Diyos? Malinis ba ang inyong puso habang nagsasagawa kayo ng pagsamba? Di ba puro singilan at bentahan ng kung anu-ano ang inyong ginagawa? Hindi ba't nasa tabi ninyo ang kaldero habang kayo ay sumasamaba? Hindi ba't sa gitna ninyong mga "pinili kuno at hinirang ng Diyos" ay naroon sa inyo habang sumasamba ang simangutan, inggitan, murahan at masamang ugali? Nasa gitna ninyo ako noon at danas ko ito kaya wala kayong maipagmamalaki sa akin na hindi ko alam.


Hindi ba't sa gitna mismo natin ay minumura ni bakla ang isang matandang babae na nasa bahay-ampunan natin at pinalalayas niya? Sige, sabihin ninyo, maging ikaw THRUTHDISORIENTED, SABIHIN MO SUGO BA ANG GAYON? UGALI BA IYON NG SUGO? Kahit sinong luko-lukong tao ay makikitang malinaw na hindi dapat nagmumura ang Sinugo ng Diyos kahit pa mali ang kaniyang kausap. Lalo na kung balo at matanda na at nasa bahay-ampunan. Pare-pareho tayong nagbabasa ng biblia, huwag kayong magkunwari, hindi iyang ang itinuturo ni Apostol Pablo. Sa guali pa lang ng isang Kristiyano ay hindi na papasa si elisa soriano, pagkatapo sasabihin ninyo na sugo siya? Ito ang sasabihin ko sa inyo. Bago mamatay si soriano ay ipakikita sa inyong lahat ng ating Panginoong Diyos ang lubos niyang paghihirap upang iparanas ng Diyos sa kaniya ang mga ginawa niyang kapalaluan at ipakakain sa kaniya ng Diyos ang kaniyang sariling dumi upang ipakita ng Diyos na hinamak niy ang kabanalan ng pangalan ng Diyos dahil sa kaniyang walang kapantay na kahalayan.

Bakit? naitanong na ba ninyo kay Elizabeth kung hindi nga ba inaabuso at hinihipuan ni soriano ang kaniyang pamangking si daniel razon noong maliit pa ito?

Alam din ba ninyo kung may-asawa noon si soriana at kung bakit siya hiniwalayan ng kaniyang asawa?

Sugo ba ng Diyos ang kumakandidato sa pagka senador? sa pagka-presidente? sugo ba ng Diyos ang naglalagay ng civil status na married sa comelec? sugo ba ng Diyos ang lusot nang lusot sa lahat ng mga kasinungalingang ito?


Hindi ba't ang sinugo ng Diyos ay isang maamong lingkod ng Diyos na inaakay sa tama ang lahat ng tao kahit na suwail? Hindi ba't ang sinugo ng Diyos ay hindi gumaganti ng galit sa lahat ng nakagagawa ng mali sa kaniya? Bakit naatim ninyo nakilalaning sugo siya ng Diyos eh sa gitna ninyo ay nasaksihan ninyo kung ilan nang daan-daang miyembro ang minumura niya at pinalalayas lalo na kapag wala na siyang pakinabang? Ano Ba kayo? Matino pa ba kayo?

Ibigay ninyo sa akin ang address ninyo at ipadadala ko sa inyo ang lahat ng recorded video nito upang ipagduduldulan sa inyong mga mata at ipasok sa inyong mga tainga. Huh, ano pa ba ang sasabihin sa inyo??????????????????

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armageddonnewsflash

I am calling again the attention of the nowpublic.com EDITORS due to a fact that a rizalino l arrabis aka dodong, if not, a copycat, is here again continuing his abusive remarks similar to the deleted comments of rizalino l arrabis but using a Filipino language, which is Tagalog. This Dodong might have overseen a written reprimand by Rob Walker: 

Rob Walker http://www.nowpublic.com/press/inc-still-shouts-where-sir-erano-manalo

at 10:45 on July 29th, 2008

Rizalino, you're only getting one warning here - cut it out with turning people's names into swears. Your behaviour is in clear violation of our terms of service.

Just to remind the nowpublic.com EDITORS and readers, you may visit this cache of the deleted portion of rizalino l arrabis' comments so you can compare:

http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:t8SH6Xd6fG4J:www.nowpublic.com/world/inc-shouts-where-sir-erano-manalo%3Fpage%3D3+arrabis+diliman&hl=tl&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=ph

Dodong,

Indeed, let us talk about biblical teachings now that you have watched and have not considered the newspapers and and supreme court rulings that proved the behaviour of some of your INC brethren and most of all, your INC Ministers, including those who you consider SENT MINISTERS of INC ni Manalo, from the old Felix down the line, whoever committed such in the following videos:

rizalino l arrabis, I will place videos after or between your sentences and let us see how you lied big time:

"...Our (INC) editors and writers are really professionals. They don't resort to character assassinations http://youtube.com/watch?v=2VD13oRR-VA. Have you heard of any criminal or civil complaint filed against them? http://youtube.com/watch?v=lND0QGifde0&feature=related. There's none. http://youtube.com/watch?v=VpTBfdw7Tsk. They don't edit copies of videos. http://youtube.com/watch?v=BAoOQnELWmE. They release it in its most pristine and un-edited version. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PQsRcsSyT2U. However, its been found out that your cult have doing the mangling and distortions of the tape http://youtube.com/watch?v=vV0dDW8cxdQ including the hacking of our forums and websites by paid hackers http://youtube.com/watch?v=WEtQBgcn5mo. They have to be careful on these for the trap is set...." http://youtube.com/watch?v=qT8WCSfdAfk 

(these statements of rizalino l. arrabis, exluding the video links, are found in : http://janeabao.newsvine.com/_news/2007/11/30/1132334-razon-requests-razon-please-protect-my-acccuser#c1317046 #50.2 - Tue Jan 1, 2008 4:54 AM EST) 

Dodong,  have you spoken to the INC witnesses how some students of PUP were killed by some of your brethren? Or try this, talk to your brethren themselves, talk to them personally.

Quote:
In the morning of 7 March 1992, MARLON, JOSEPH, and an unidentified companion played three rounds of basketball against the team of JOEY de los Santos at the vicinity of Dalisay and Lakas Streets, Bacood, Sta. Mesa, Manila. The Ronquillos won the first two rounds; but the third round ended in a brawl, which the neighbors quickly pacified. JOEY later went back to Dalisay Street carrying two pillboxes. A certain Donald Ancheta saw him, took the pillboxes and turned them over to a policeman. On 8 March 1992, between 5:00 and 6:00 p.m., JOEY and his brother GENER threw stones at the Ronquillos’ house, attracting the attention of neighbors, who forthwith ran after the brothers. JOEY and GENER were overtaken and mauled before they were released.

Between 8:00 and 9:00 p.m. of the same day, WILFREDO Lojero, a certain Daniel, and the victims were in front of the Ronquillos’ house in Lakas Street, trading stories while awaiting a certain Aling Flor. JOSEPHINE del Rosario was then at the corner of Lakas Street on her way to a friend’s house when the victims called her and asked her about her mother, who was a barangay kagawad at Bacood. They told her that they were waiting for Aling Flor to report to her that JOEY and GENER threw stones at the Ronquillos’ house. Later, EVELYN de la Cruz joined the group in the conversation. The area was then illuminated by a streetlight at the corner of Damayan and Dalisay Streets about ten arms-length away.

Suddenly, a dirty white Ford Fiera without a plate number stopped in front of the group. There were about ten to thirteen people on board. Among them were JOEY and GENER, who looked out of the van and pointed at the victims. All the passengers except for JOEY and GENER alighted. Their faces were covered with black handkerchiefs, and they were armed. Someone shouted, “Pulis ito!” Another exclaimed, “Walang tatakbo!” FELIX ran but stopped when shots were fired; he was hit with a gun then dragged into the van. WILFREDO Lojero, however, managed to sneak into the Ronquillos’ house and was able to see everything. The other victims were boxed, kicked, and also hit with a gun and dragged into the van. Before the van sped away, one of the abductors warned JOSEPHINE, “Ikaw huwag kang maingay, wala kang nakita, wala kang narinig.”

Meanwhile, at about 6:00 p.m. inside the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC), Sta. Ana compound in Bacood, ELENA Bernardo was waiting for Pastor Cesar Almedina to seek his advice regarding her son-in-law’s problem. Pastor Almedina asked her to wait, and she did so. She waited until 10:00 p.m. Suddenly the guard switched off the lights inside the compound. With only the MERALCO light illuminating the compound from outside, she saw a dirty white Ford Fiera loaded with passengers enter and park in front of the pastoral house near the path leading to the basement. JOEY, GENER, all the accused and the victims were inside the van. Four of the victims were made to alight from the van, while the fifth one lay on the floor of the vehicle as though dead. The victims were brought to the basement, which was at the back of the chapel and beneath the choir office. ELENA followed. Inside the basement the victims were continually mauled, whipped with a gun, and beaten with steel tubes, lead pipes and other blunt instruments. One of the victims was tied with wire. Filemon Garcia arrived with a blowtorch and also entered the basement. ELENA heard the victims beg for mercy. Unable to endure the sight she sat in front of the chapel and stayed for 30 minutes. Pastor Almedina arrived and told her that they would talk about her problem at another time.

SOURCE: Supreme Court Reports Annotated, Vol. 335
 
Murder in the INC Chapel
Cast of Characters

Juanito ABELLA-- Deacon of the Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) of Manalo


Diosdado GRANADA-- Deacon of the INC


Benjamin DE GUZMAN-- Deacon of the INC


Edgardo VALENCIA-- Deacon of the INC


Renato DANTE-- Deacon of the INC


Virgilio de GUZMAN-- Deacon of the INC


Major Joe PRING-- Arresting Officer


Hon. Hilario DAVIDE-- Supreme Court Judge

Or this, have you watched the behaviour of some of your high MINISTERS and brethrens? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lND0QGifde0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G21wbEgUi38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh4G9fRCegE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wb9G9fih1A&feature=related

Why? Do you know how your Executive Minister debate his own Ministers and himself? Why is Erano Manalo is surrounded by such MINISTERS?  Hear it from the horse's mouth himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpTBfdw7Tsk

Have you seen Ka Erano Manalo's library where he keeps himself out of his brethren's sight? Have you seen him debate leaders of other religious group? Does he have allergies that can be caused by facing presiding ministers in religious debate? Or let Erano Manalo ask who is the father of the one speaking here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzx_QsNzSrg. But what do they promote instead? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DnQxibaQZY&feature=related

Haven't you noticed why Erano Manalo doesn't want to face Bro Eli Soriano, even in Plaza nor via Satellite? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qap8kHfr6I  http://ca.video.yahoo.com/watch/733670/3213028 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nCB3uKBUpQ&feature=related

Dodong, why can't you open your own eyes? NO! You should instead Pray to God that He open your eyes so that you can see, know, hear and learn by heart the truth.

Dodong,

When you noticed something wrong and you did not do or say the proper correction based on the teachings, but rather keep it to yourself and say as if you were hurt saying what you allegedly saw, is it not what you are doing is an obvious exhibition of hypocrisy? You even resorted to character assassinations like what your INC MINISTERS do http://youtube.com/watch?v=2VD13oRR-VA but then again, you have the thick face to pray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PVSgpXpNRQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l13RY9RhCyk&feature=related. See! You are liars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEp0Ita5I0&feature=related.

Do you have a whole day affair to thank the God of Israel for all He has done for His people? Or you just exhibit the grandeur of your Palace like Chapels and the clothes you wear during your fraternity during Thursdays?  AH, maybe you have not experienced a whole day celebration to thank the God who created you, and you don't have that much numbers who will need to buy food to eat in 10 minutes in order to continue the thanksgiving celebration.

Were there old women existing in Galatia, or none, who, after learning in spirit chooses material things of the world, like what you are doing, for example? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26A4QQKAek4

Galacia 3

O tangang mga taga-Galasya! Sino ang kumulam sa inyo, na sa inyong mga mata’y lantaran pa namang itinanghal si Jesucristong nakapako sa krus? Iisa lang ang itinatanong ko sa inyo: Tinanggap ba ninyo ang espiritu bunga ng pagtupad sa Batas, o ng pananampalataya sa inyong narinig? Tangang-tanga na ba kayo? Nagsimula na kayo sa espiritu at ngayo’y magtatapos kayo sa laman....

"HAYAN o..sinabihan ni PABLO yung TANGA!" Read who St Paul refers to as crazy or tanga:

Galacia 3 (The Message)

 2-4Let me put this question to you: How did your new life begin? Was it by working your heads off to please God? Or was it by responding to God's Message to you? Are you going to continue this craziness? For only crazy people would think they could complete by their own efforts what was begun by God. If you weren't smart enough or strong enough to begin it, how do you suppose you could perfect it? Did you go through this whole painful learning process for nothing? It is not yet a total loss, but it certainly will be if you keep this up!

Galatians 3 Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905)  

1 Oh mga mangmang na taga Galacia, sino ang mga nagsigayuma sa inyo, na sa harapan ng inyong mga mata'y si Jesucristo, na napako sa krus, ay maliwanag na inihayag? 2 Ito lamang ang ibig kong maalaman sa inyo, Tinanggap baga ninyo ang Espiritu sa pamamagitan ng mga gawang ayon sa kautusan, o sa pamamagitan ng pakikinig ng tungkol sa pananampalataya? 3 Napakamangmang na baga kayo? kayong nagpasimula sa Espiritu, ngayo'y nangagpapakasakdal kayo sa laman? 4 Tiniis baga ninyong walang kabuluhan ang lubhang maraming mga bagay? kung tunay na walang kabuluhan. 5 Siya na nagbibigay nga sa inyo ng Espiritu, at gumagawa ng mga himala sa gitna ninyo, ginagawa baga sa pamamagitan ng mga gawang ayon sa kautusan, o sa pakikinig ng tungkol sa pananampalataya? 

Dodong,

Let me follow your own reasoning in italics with videos capturing your INC brethren in the act:

Hindi ba't ang sinugo ng Diyos ay isang maamong lingkod ng Diyos na inaakay sa tama ang lahat ng tao kahit na suwail? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOFZxFHqIds&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUIibl48aC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6kHVLe0lOg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1M4aBK7K4g&feature=related

 

Hindi ba't ang sinugo ng Diyos ay hindi gumaganti ng galit sa lahat ng nakagagawa ng mali sa kaniya? Bakit naatim ninyo nakilalaning sugo siya ng Diyos eh sa gitna ninyo ay nasaksihan ninyo kung ilan nang daan-daang miyembro ang minumura niya at pinalalayas lalo na kapag wala na siyang pakinabang? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpTBfdw7Tsk

 

 Ano Ba kayo? Matino pa ba kayo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2B_cmZTwrk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT8WCSfdAfk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj9ndskJmA&feature=related

Ibigay ninyo sa akin ang address ninyo at ipadadala ko sa inyo ang lahat ng recorded video nito upang ipagduduldulan sa inyong mga mata at ipasok sa inyong mga tainga.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c1peMtBGJg&feature=related

 

Huh, ano pa ba ang sasabihin sa inyo?????????????????? http://youtube.com/watch?v=yLmwZ0SRt9I, http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1h1NsLq3c,

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=FXAfdfHs1U4&feature=related,

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=_GQVPHhUtb

"...It brings back to mind one of the most celebrated cases in the Philippine legal history when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of some teenage students from the Polytechnic University of the Philippines (PUP), who after playing basketball, were massacred and tortured by their opponents in that game who are members of the Iglesia ni Cristo.

Could it be history repeating itself? Now they are trying to hide it again in their temple which they claim is a very special place for them because it is here where their god dwells! Tsk. Tsk. Tsk...."


SITES
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view_article.php?article_id=48314

http://www.italknews.com/view_link.php?sid=12416

"...I also observed those INC members from that forum website and all I can say is that they're just spreading false accusations against us using the internet as a psychological warfare. They are doing those things out of desperation because they know that their leader Era?o Manalo cannot defend them and their doctrines being teached by Felix Manalo. I observed it based on their answers for some questions regarding the proposed debate between Bro. Eli Soriano and Mr. Era?o Manalo. I also witnessed how they transgress the law of God and the law of man just to destroy the character of Bro. Eli Soriano by endorsing Bold Comics inspired by their dirty mind out of their evil hearts and reproduce it through the internet. I also read a thread about "Amurao" who is according to them (INC), the one who will greet Bro. Eli once he return to the Philippines. That Amurao also according to them will prepare a red carpet, peanuts, and a message of "Rest in Peace" for Bro. Eli. I know we know what they mean about that...."

Dodong, I have witnessed this too from your tv program, and maybe you have watched some videos, of Ang Tamang Daan, your INC tv program! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22S6ZjVjLQE&feature=related

What was Erano Manalo's reply to the one on one debate Brother Eli Soriano called for to stop the INC ADMINISTRATIONS' abusive and malicious strategies, INCLUDING mangling of voice tapes, video tapes, news articles, documents, and comments? Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nCB3uKBUpQ&feature=related

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DODONG

Payo ko sa inyo itch este eritch, disoriented, manahimik na kayo. Mas marami akong alam kaysa sa inyong tungkol sa bulok na lumang daan. Hindi pa ninyo alam ang mga nalaman ko sa loob ng limang taon ko diyan sa inyo.


Maraming-marami pa akong bala baka magulat kayo kapag ibinulgar ko dito pati ang mga pinaggagawa niya sa mga kamag-anak niya at kung bakit ngayon lang nagmiyembro sa kaniya ang iba niyang mga kamag-anak.


Gusto ninyo ibulgar ko rito pati mga illegal niyang gawa eh................

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armageddonnewsflash

Dodong,

Were there old women existing in Galatia or none who after learning in spirit chooses material things of the world, like what you are doing, for example? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26A4QQKAek4

Galacia 3

O tangang mga taga-Galasya! Sino ang kumulam sa inyo, na sa inyong mga mata’y lantaran pa namang itinanghal si Jesucristong nakapako sa krus? Iisa lang ang itinatanong ko sa inyo: Tinanggap ba ninyo ang espiritu bunga ng pagtupad sa Batas, o ng pananampalataya sa inyong narinig? Tangang-tanga na ba kayo? Nagsimula na kayo sa espiritu at ngayo’y magtatapos kayo sa laman....

"HAYAN o..sinabihan ni PABLO yung TANGA!" Read who St Paul refers to as crazy or tanga:

Galacia 3 (The Message)

 2-4Let me put this question to you: How did your new life begin? Was it by working your heads off to please God? Or was it by responding to God's Message to you? Are you going to continue this craziness? For only crazy people would think they could complete by their own efforts what was begun by God. If you weren't smart enough or strong enough to begin it, how do you suppose you could perfect it? Did you go through this whole painful learning process for nothing? It is not yet a total loss, but it certainly will be if you keep this up!

Galatians 3 Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905)  

1 Oh mga mangmang na taga Galacia, sino ang mga nagsigayuma sa inyo, na sa harapan ng inyong mga mata'y si Jesucristo, na napako sa krus, ay maliwanag na inihayag? 2 Ito lamang ang ibig kong maalaman sa inyo, Tinanggap baga ninyo ang Espiritu sa pamamagitan ng mga gawang ayon sa kautusan, o sa pamamagitan ng pakikinig ng tungkol sa pananampalataya? 3 Napakamangmang na baga kayo? kayong nagpasimula sa Espiritu, ngayo'y nangagpapakasakdal kayo sa laman? 4 Tiniis baga ninyong walang kabuluhan ang lubhang maraming mga bagay? kung tunay na walang kabuluhan. 5 Siya na nagbibigay nga sa inyo ng Espiritu, at gumagawa ng mga himala sa gitna ninyo, ginagawa baga sa pamamagitan ng mga gawang ayon sa kautusan, o sa pakikinig ng tungkol sa pananampalataya?

What have you beeing doing all along during thanksgiving and activities of Members, Church of God, International? Have you been spying and diarizing what you have observed rather than putting into heart the teachings found in the Holy Bible? Is this one way of retaliating? Tsk tsk tsk!  Are you going to continue this craziness? For only crazy people would think they could complete by their own efforts what was begun by God. If you weren't smart enough or strong enough to begin it, how do you suppose you could perfect it? Did you go through this whole painful learning process for nothing? It is not yet a total loss, but it certainly will be if you keep this up!

James 2 (The Message)

 5-7Listen, dear friends. Isn't it clear by now that God operates quite differently? He chose the world's down-and-out as the kingdom's first citizens, with full rights and privileges. This kingdom is promised to anyone who loves God. And here you are abusing these same citizens! Isn't it the high and mighty who exploit you, who use the courts to rob you blind? Aren't they the ones who scorn the new name—"Christian"—used in your baptisms?

 8-11You do well when you complete the Royal Rule of the Scriptures: "Love others as you love yourself." But if you play up to these so-called important people, you go against the Rule and stand convicted by it. You can't pick and choose in these things, specializing in keeping one or two things in God's law and ignoring others.

The same God who said, "Don't commit adultery," also said, "Don't murder."

If you don't commit adultery but go ahead and murder, do you think your non-adultery will cancel out your murder? No, you're a murderer, period.

Now, since this women, and their connivance and comrades, who discriminated ST Paul, which is being experienced by Brother Eliseo Soriano in the Philippines, they try to continue to malign  him!  They suspended Brother Eliseo Soriano from airing his biblical readings on Television, so that these INCs can continue their bad mouthing. Ain't it a tactic of the evil minds? Indeed! And we will hear from them more, sooner or later!

Are you really an ADD member to begin with, Dodong? Or an INC spy? Hahaha! To those INC concerned, do you think your non-adultery will cancel out your murder? No, you're a murderer, period. Do you suppose for a minute that you can cut faith and works in two and not end up with a corpse on your hands? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22S6ZjVjLQE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT8WCSfdAfk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj9ndskJmA&feature=related



James 2 (The Message)

 19-20Do I hear you professing to believe in the one and only God, but then observe you complacently sitting back as if you had done something wonderful? That's just great. Demons do that, but what good does it do them? Use your heads! Do you suppose for a minute that you can cut faith and works in two and not end up with a corpse on your hands?

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Bolpok123

armageddonnewsflash,,

may i request for a video of d Evil Michael Sandoval and his Fellow evil doers,,, in the vid michaela sandoval saying that Mr. Eli Soriano will be accompand by Amurao,,by their fellow evil doers bro Amurao,,if you have any video of this pls give me..plus a video of APOLLO QUI ABULOY saying asking verses in the bible is a son of devil..

Quiboloy is a son of Devil as well as Michaela and co...

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Dodong

why don't you ask daniel razon how did his uncle eliseo soiriano raped him during his early age and how did he love it during his old age???

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truthoriented

Poor Dodong, you are very desperate! Dodong, a.k.a. PUTO. Yes you are, and you are proud to do everything to malign and discredit Bro. Eli Soriano, he who showed and gave you all kindness and compassion even after he learned of everything that you've done to him. Yes, how evil and filthy you are to stole the Church's funds for your personal use, and raping many young and underage boys and men in the department you formerly handled.  What moves you PUTO is greed, deceit, evil and hatred. 

You may be alive, but am sure you never look at the mirror, because in your heart you know, even right at this very moment, you know your face is already melting, and burning in fire.  What is worst, you can never escape it anymore.    


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believer

DODONG, pity you... we know who you are...

come on... show us your beloved leader who never appears...

just take it from this, all you are sayin are lies lies lies lies and lies and if you can't fight us biblically anymore, you kill kill kill behead behead behead and then PRAY ON AIR on TELEVISION...

what a funny faith you have...

ikaw si puto... lahat kayo naging si puto na!

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