Republican believes rapes don't cause pregancies?

by JerryM | August 21, 2012 at 02:37 am
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Todd Akin, a Republican congressman from Missouri who is running for the U.S. Senate for that state, stated this during an interview: "From what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," said Akin said of pregnancy caused by rape. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume maybe that didn't work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist."

From what I read about number of pregnancies per year caused by rapes, it is about 32,000 per year. Frankly, it is not rare at all for abortions to cause pregnancies. Rep. Akin opposes abortions even involving a rape (as do many Republicans). Indeed, Republicans have supported even the banning of female soldiers using their own health insurance to get abortions after being raped.

Akin and others like him do not utilize facts but utilize faith based facts. Or in other words, non-facts. They just make stuff up. They don't believe in evolution because they don't want evolution to be true. They don't believe in climate change because supposedly that is not in their god's plan.

Oh by the way, American Atheists, an atheist organization obviously, has opposed the putting up a giant cross at the taxpayer financed 9/11 Museum in New York City. This supposed cross is just two cross beams that were found in the wreckage of the World Trade Center. That something like this would be found, is not the least surprising considering the hundreds if not thousands of crossed beams that made up those towers.

Now it is obvious to anyone and everyone that the religious right-wing want this cross displayed because of its' religious meaning to them. But, they have tried to pretend it is all about historical context. They state that it is part of the history of the recovery after the attack. Well, technically that is true, but they want it because it is what it is, something that resembles the Christian cross.

Now, American Atheists stated fine, just allow symbols of other religious or non-religious groups to be displayed. Well, the president of one religious right-wing group, a Jay Sekulow, believes it is bizarre if something like a giant letter A, for atheists, is displayed.

Why? Why is a representation of a Christian cross fine but a letter A for atheists, bizarre? Frankly, I find the beliefs of Christianity bizarre but I am polite enough not to use that as a supposed legal argument as he does against atheists. Strangely this Sekulow had opposed a private building on private land that contained a mosque (near but not at the site of the WTC attack) but the government putting up a cross (for religious reasons while pretending otherwise) is fine? The march of the theocrats marches on, until they are stopped.

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Real Atheist

Unfortunately there are too many people who self-identify as atheist and misunderstand just what it means to be atheist. You seem to be one of those many ignorant about the meaning of atheism.

Atheist not only don't believe in Deities, we don't believe in religion. We don't advocate for religion or any God. We also don't engage in religious debate. We don't belittle the religions or the religious or their Gods. Religious symbolism doesn't impact on our world view any more than a McDonald's big "M" or the big donut from Big Donut's does.

American Atheist is not a true atheist organization. They stick their nose into everything religious. They need to change their name to the American theist. Theism is their true interest.

BTW. The Republican Congressman wasn't entirely wrong. 3.1-5% of all rapes end in pregnancy [numbers from study papers, Wilcox et al. 2001, Smugar et al. 2000] Also there is in a strictly "moral debate" an ongoing discussion on the social conflict between the death penalty and abortion. True pro-life advocates can not be for either.

I'm betting as a pro-abortionist that your against the death penalty?

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JerryM

Um, atheism means a nonbelief or desbelief in a god. That's all that is required. It does not mean ignore the religious rightwing in America as they try to force their theocratic beliefs on everyone else. It does not mean we ignore their efforts to ban contraceptives, abortions (even to save the life of the mother) or to once again put gays in prison for consensual sex. It does not mean we ignore their efforts to ban all adult themed material or books. Their efforts to ban strip clubs and ban sex toys. Or their efforts to ban alcohol sales or even car sales on Sundays. See, you don't seem to be aware of any of this, but maybe I am not a "real" atheist like you.  See you are ok with theocrats, hey maybe you are one themselves. There exists atheists who are apologists for the religious rightwing and want America ruled by the religious rightwing, maybe, just maybe you are one of those.

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Real Atheist

That I as an atheist don't believe in religious deities does not mean others can not believe.

Real atheist like myself understand the spiritual connection with in the human experience. That there will be pro-life and pro-abortionist and that neither side is a social evil. We real atheist are not engaged in an us vs. them dialogue. We don't hold ourselves up as belief police.

We real atheist have even been heard to say that for some, taking a day off from their regular diet of self-centered pornographic sex obsessive nihilism would do the world a good.

No maybe's about it. You ain't no atheist. You're anti-theist or just a hater. I can never pinpoint exactly when it comes to dealing with far left extremist.

I believe that 30:06 comment proves the fallacy of your 'right-wing' theocracy argument. There is no legitimate fear any theocracy is running the country. You are always more than willing to ignore the same thinking by some on the left that you want to attribute as 'right-wing'. What's the word for that? Oh ya, hypocrite.

The height of your stupidity is exemplified in your last sentence. There exists atheists who are apologists for the religious rightwing and want America ruled by the religious rightwing, Is that something you read in one of your porn mags? More proof you don't understand atheism. Can't be for separation between Church and State and be for being ruled by the religious rightwing. Sigh.

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"thirty-aught-six"

British Liberal MP George Galloway says, " it isn't rape if she's asleep", and opposes abortion. Left meet right.

@RA; I agree American Atheist is a total anti-theist organization. Not atheist.

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 Atheist or A'holes

A lawsuit that challenges the placement of the cross at the site of the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center alleges atheist plaintiffs have suffered serious physical and mental illness because the religious symbol has made them feel excluded. The group contends the placement of the 17-foot-tall symbol at the National September 11 Memorial and Museum is making some atheists unbearably sick. “The plaintiffs, and each of them, are suffering, and will continue to suffer damages, both physical and emotional, from the existence of the challenged cross,” the lawsuit American Atheists v. Port Authority of New York and New Jersey states. “Named plaintiffs have suffered …. dyspepsia, symptoms of depression, headaches, anxiety, and mental pain and anguish from the knowledge that they are made to feel officially excluded from the ranks of citizens who were directly injured by the 9/11 attack.” The suit explains the named plaintiffs “have seen the cross, either in person or on television, are being subjected to, and injured in consequence.”

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