Republicans ignored and lied about in regards to health care

by lounsbury | September 10, 2009 at 03:32 pm

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You wont find this on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS or any other of the mainstream media outlets in America who are busy laying on a full court press in the wake of Obama's failed attempt to bring something new to the health care reform debate. The reason is that Obamunistas in and out of our federal government are doing EXACTLY what they are accusing Republicans of... Misrepresenting the facts.

Fact of the matter is that Republicans have been shut out of the formal process in Congress, and the Democratic spin is to characterize being locked out as them not participating in the debate or offering solutions along with their criticism of what Democrats have proposed.

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Republicans have an offer -- or 35 -- for President Obama if he is serious about wanting to listen to alternative proposals. "You've got the House working group -- solutions working group on health care; you've got a proposal there. You've got H.R. 3400. Or you could go to healthcare.gop.gov and you can see all of the proposals -- all of them. They're right there," House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, told reporters on Thursday. H.R. 3400 is the Small Business Health Fairness Act. It calls for small businesses to offer employees health insurance through group health plans. It's one of several options Republicans are hoping to use to gain some traction in the debate. But none of the proposals has gotten a hearing, and none has much chance of getting passed since Democrats control Congress and the agenda.

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Perhaps Goebbels was right when he said:

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If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

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The American people are now awake to all of the above and are no longer buying anything carte blanche that is coming from what was previously considered to be fair and balanced sources of information and news. Not everyone mind you, but those who crawled outside of the boxes that Obama, the Democrats in Congress and the mainstream media have ventured into places where the truth is actually being discussed and the results are staggering. Staggering and frustrating when you control the entire federal government and 87% of the mainstream media, and still the word gets out.

Obamunistas have resorted to viciously attacking anybody or anything that dares to offer any point of view other than the prescribed party line, and we are now in a "truth War" in this country that is leading many otherwise silent American citizens to become uber-patriots willing to speak up and out against a new form of American tyranny.

They call us radicals, hatemongers, fear mongers and racists in an attempt to silence us, but the harder they push against the truth and those who are on a mission to spread it, the larger the Truth Movement becomes.

COMMON-SENSE HEALTH CARE REFORMS OUR NATION CAN AFFORD

"It’s time to start over on a common-sense, bipartisan plan focused on lowering the cost of health care while improving quality. That’s what I heard over the past several months in talking to thousands of my constituents. Replacing your family’s current health care with government-run health care is not the answer. We can do better, with a targeted approach that tackles the biggest problems."
– Rep. Charles Boustany, Jr. , MD, September 9, 2009

The American people have spoken. They oppose government-run health care. Republicans are on the side of the American people.

What Americans want are common-sense, responsible solutions that address the rising cost of health care and other major problems. In the Republican address following President Obama's speech to a Joint Session of Congress on Wednesday, September 9, 2009, Dr. Charles Boustany (R-LA) outlined a series of such solutions:

"We do need medical liability reform, and it needs to be real reform. We need to establish tough liability reform standards, encourage speedy resolution of claims, and deter junk lawsuits that drive up the cost of care."

"Let's also talk about letting families and businesses buy insurance across state lines. I and many other Republicans believe that will provide real choice and competition to lower the cost of health insurance."

"All individuals should have access to coverage, regardless of preexisting conditions."

"Individuals, small businesses and other groups should be able to join together to get health insurance at lower prices, the same way large businesses and labor unions do."

"We can provide assistance to those who still cannot access a doctor."

"[I]nsurers should be able to offer incentives for wellness care and prevention – something particularly important to me. I operated on too many people who could have avoided surgery if they’d simply made healthier choices earlier in life."

For more information about these and some of the other common-sense health care reforms proposed by Republicans, please visit these links:

House GOP Health Care Solutions Group Plan (Unveiled June 17, 2009)

Empowering Patients First Act (Republican Study Group Health Care Reform Bill, unveiled July 30, 2009)

Improving Health Care for All Americans Act (Shadegg Health Care Reform Bill, introduced July 14, 2009)

Patients’ Choice Act (Ryan-Nunes Health Care Reform Bill, introduced May 20, 2009)

Medical Rights & Reform Act (Kirk-Dent Health Care Reform Bill, introduced June 16, 2009)

Help Efficient, Accessible, Low-cost, Timely Healthcare (HEALTH) Act (Gingrey medical liability reform bill, introduced June 6, 2009)

Small Business Health Fairness Act of 2009 (Johnson small business health plans bill, introduced May 21, 2009)

31 Common-Sense Changes Republicans Offered to Improve Democrats’ Health Care Bill (GOP Leader Alert, July 28, 2009)

House Republican Leaders’ Letter to President Obama [PDF] Outlining Areas for Common Ground on Health Care Reform (May 13, 2009)

Source: http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare

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QueensHart

at 18:49 on September 10th, 2009

Great to have this here. Thanks.

Roy C

at 20:03 on September 10th, 2009

Appreciate seeing that list of proposals.

Henry Massingale (not verified)

at 02:04 on October 14th, 2009

Pay It Forward Do we need to bring about a CONSTITUTIONAL DIRECTIVE and order our officials of government to work together and stop fighting over a health care reform issue ? That there are 307 000 000 million people listed in the USA That a unknown figure of children is in the USA is needed That a unknown figure of unemployed is in the USA is needed That a unknown figure of those in prison in the USA is needed It has come to our attention that, only around 100 000 000 million people support the USA tax dollar system. USA Government Officials saw this and withheld this information, in fear of a public out cry that could result in the dismissal of Government Employees. This is where the separation of employees and employer comes into effect. If Government Employees do not have a plain ,than we offer a Health Care Reform Stimulus Package that is open to all and is free to build on. All that we hear is to raise taxes again, “you guys in office dont have a clue on how to fix it other than throw dollars at it in hope it will go away. As of right now a income of $29,000.00 per year was considered to be middle class people,so what happens when $39,000.00 per year falls to a classification of middle class people..? Dear sir or Mrs., We wish to share a new concept, that the writing is by my hand but the design is by another . No matter of what faith within each church, we wish to bring forward a new concept to build on. This Pay It Forward is in fact created by a child who believed that he could help one and than have his good deed paid forward by another. We truly feel with all of our hearts that we have found a way to rebuild America,and we search for a way to say that there is no lies in its creation. That if you and I stood before God ,all that is within is true and honest for all to build on. Join us................. The FASC Concepts is that of how to show something that its creation is offered as a true and honest concept to be paid forward and it is open to you to build on. A concept that is offered, how it opens you thoughts and how you wish to share it will be of your design.

Please look for us on google.com for www.fascmovement.mysite.com look for page1.american dream. The health care issue is stuck in a sandbox, you have Obama s plan and the Republican plan and as it would seem if the people do not support the plans the door is not open. Everybody is fighting over the sandbox. If you do not play follow the leader ,that the door is truly not open. We ask that the different parties put aside, of who is right and who is wrong and Pay It Forward as a united effort by the people to bring forward a more perfect union.. We ask you to come and see a lot of ideas and building block concepts that opens your mind. Within one to two years we will show how to remove health care out of company pockets so they can join a concept to rebuild jobs in America. The Health Care Insurance Companies are a $1 to $4 trillion dollar per month income for the rich that own it,but law states no matter what Government rules applied,that a company can file bank rupt and bail on a hospital matter. Within the Constitution it is our right by law, that if a person or people see into a issue or issues that is so wrong ,not only is our right to bring it forward it is our duty. Every day we contact ten people and it is our hope to have the sum of 10 x 10 paid forward. As of now, there is around 30000 people who,s minds have opened to a idea that is open to all, to share and build on. A American Dream,a concept that will touch your mind and its truth for the building block for a HEALTHCARE RFEORM STIMULUS PACKAGE, that has never been conceived within the 21st century of man s thoughts. It will put a smile on your face. The people do not want the system to take care of them, Im sorry but this is true. We have grown from 3 to 10 000 in 11 days and now we have contacted over 30 000. You are invited to join us and see the birth place of FASC CONCEPTS. Please do not email me about abortion or Gay Rights, we wish to help open ideas for a health care concept,but we are not death to your veiws.... So we will say this one time, do not concern yourself with President Obama,{with his do not ask dont tell}. It is no more than a political stunt to gain support. He dose not care about those issues, he is concerned because over 70 % of the people do not support his health care bill. The Bible and the Constitution only supports a right of free well. For over 2000 years history has recorded that cities and countries have been destroyed so,.....{you figure it out}. If a woman is to die because she is with child ,then we do believe in her right to live. And if a woman is raped it is a choice that she must live with. And as christian it is written that you are to pray for them and not to judge them or condemn them. As of today we stand over 16 834 strong and we once again ask” President Obama stand with us and not the members of staff because they will not step outside of that box called a system, they have lived so long in it ,they fear a change within it”. We ask that the elected members of Congress, that both parties work together to bring about a change created by all and for all. Please do not force us to bring a Constitutional Order ,to make the parties work together as one. We are not saying that the FASC Concepts are smarter than Congress, we are saying that this child of Pay It Forward is smarter than all, because his gift was true and honest,something to build on. To bring into a order,it would become a Constitutional Directive, that therein we order the officals of OUR GOVERNMENT to work together and stop fighting over health care reform. That the 307 000 000 million people listed in the USA That a unknown figure of children is in the USA is needed That a unknown figure of unemployed is in the USA That a unknown figure of those in prison in the USA It has come to our attention that, only around 100 000 000 million people support the USA tax dollar system. Please visit us on google.com and look for page 1 american dream and enter search for www.fascmovement.mysite.com or click here All we ask is that you PAY IT FORWARD Henry Massingale 561 734 1376 we have reached over and stand strong 30,000,we do thank you....... 1.page 1.american dream

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donoharm (not verified)

at 05:42 on October 23rd, 2009

I linked into your site hoping to find some intelligence. Like Bush, he was always look for intelligence and could never find it. Back to the point, this site is nothing more than bashing the Democratic Party. Exaggerations, distortions, spin, absolute lies fill this site. And no surprise, under the guise of God. Oh brother, Bush had God talking to him and he drank enough to hear God? If you're such a believer, such a kindred spirit, I should think you all would want health care for all people. Yes, I believe it is a God given right, just like access to food, water, shelter and education. And yes, we all should be prepared to do our part to ensure availability. I'm not talking communism now, just common sense. Remember, "to the least of my brethren?" After ballon boy debacle, now your site, skepticism is the best way to go. I am 100% going anti-Republican. Up to this point, we were sitting on the fence and it was darn uncomfortable watching the shenanigans of the Republican Party. Each day brought a lower level, down, down. From FOX entertainment to Palin, a bunch of losers and liars. And this site did the trick. Go Democrates. Go President Obama. Yes We Can.

Henry Massingale (not verified)

at 08:09 on November 6th, 2009

I am sorry I do not belong to any party, but I am cherokee lakota Souix, German Gew and Irish. We helped Preident Obama get into Office and I like president Bush and his daddy, I look into people to find the truth and lies within, and so If I wish to state something, and when you say whats on your mind, I show you respect, because it is your right, so please show respect for a people that you do not have a clue of who we are. November 6, 2009 Dear Sir and Mrs., F.A.S.C. Concepts in and for Pay It Forward is a 2 part petition. In support of the Pay It Forward is to do something good within a action or a idea and then have another pay it forward the same good intention. Within or web site it is clear of all our goals. Private Schools for children lost to the streets, Asking H.U.D. To help put families back into homes, build a forum through a health care issue that needs to be for the people according to their needs. I have allowed a issue to get in my way and our goals. I am truly sorry but our web site is being worked on as you read this. Not never one time have we ever asked for you to put your faith into what we write, but we do ask if you see into this, to put your faith into yourself of how to build on this to make it work and to keep it safe from scams. Within the Federal Act Security Card link you will see two more concepts, one is called ,silly me concept, and the other is the, caveman concept. I would love to share the cave man concept with you. You see the cave man was out and about one day and he saw gold he looked at it and then he looked at the cave woman, so he tossed aside the gold. It is the same with the health care issue that the people fight over, in the cave man days it held no value over his woman but now in this 21st century of mankind it is no more than a way to get rich off of the old, the sick and the dieing. To understand me and how my mind sees into issues, it is because I am dyslectic, I will never have a G.E.D. ,I will never be able to go to College, but through my disability i have a gift, and that is to be able to see into issues, people, and the earth. I remember one day in Tennessee i was walking out of the forest from a days hunt and I stood before the biggest Oak Tree I have ever seen, the sun was setting over the ridge and the fall leaves and sun light set this tree into a flam of colors. I found myself staring at this tree and for reasons unknown to me , I said ,” God who am I and what was I created to do ?” I know it sounds silly for a man to talk to a tree in order to reach God. There will come a time in a persons life that they will look into their self and look for things that is good. It may be for a woman for a child or for God and Country. I know without a doubt because of law created to remove prayer from schools that our children are murdered in schools. And because of laws created against the Flag Of America that people lost respect for our own laws. This is to stay as it is, we must remove God from the Court Houses {to swear by.} What I do ask of people if you see into my mind of what is written and you believe in part or in full, do I as have and email President Obama and ask him to look into his hand and see where he came from and what it took for him to get where he is today. To never forget this because people elected you into office to be the Commander And Chief of the Military, to help fix this failed system, but not to be the leader of the people, but instead we ask for you Sir, “To step away from the Democrats and the Republicans and stand with the people of the United States Of America and God. Then say to the two different parties stand with us and lets rebuild America.” All we ask is for you to Pay It Forward. Henry Massingale

HenryMassingale (not verified)

at 10:24 on October 26th, 2009

donoharm, you are more than welcomed, what is offered is free, and this, Federal Act Security Card The Federal Act Security within its creation is to form a building block of ideas that state that we do not say have faith in us but to have faith in yourself. To reach into your mind and say what could I do as a person to build on to this concept to protect it, to make it a law. As a people you have become divided by issues, and it is because of what took place on September 11 2001. This Country have become week within its inter-structure. As the years went by it is now that only about 125 million people support the rest of the USA. The sales tax and has dropped off to around 34% of income and the lost tax revenue has placed us into a fix and it is just now known that this tax dollar issue should not be public. Understand this there is a people who wish for us to die because we are infidales. This is so disturbing to our minds that we we reach out to God and say how is this ? I was not born to follow and I am not a leader, but within my world that is The United Tribes Of Many Nations we stand over 500 000 strong we are white of all the race of people we are white ,black, Jew and most of all for most we habor no ill will. We wish to say the this Country that this land belongs to God and it is said for as long as the grass grows and the water flows that this land will be our, { The People OF The United States Of America.} That, for of the Arabic drug empire we say this,” that God is within this country and we will not lay down and die.” Some have said that the enemy could of not known that their attack on 9/11 could all most bring down a Country, perhaps so, but they know now, because it was felt all over the world. This is how we saw into the concept of the Federal Act Security Card merged with what we call ,a Health Care Reform Stimulus Package. The inter facing of the two will build a security on two fronts first and ut most important the people 2nd., It will build a net work that in it concept is a anti crime / war prevention forum to maintain the National Security Of The United States Of America. A Health Care Program must be a united effort that says, that in the early days it was created for the better good of mankind, but now it is a way to make money off of the old ,the sick and the dieing. It must also be known that this concept is protected from what is called A.I, the artificial intelligence within the computer systems that run our Government Institution. A.I. Has failed because it built its concept on a dollar being constant. This computer it dont, it dont know how to love, all it dose is calculate.” Now it shows system failure” , and it looks back to man to help fix its failure. The FASC Concepts is for one thing only, us. It dose not matter if you don t believe in God, or what race you are, or if you are Christian ,Jew or what country you live in, There is a Drug Empire that want you yo die and your children to die. The Arabic Drug Empire seeks to unite with others and I say to you, that they will betray you and sacrifice you for their goal. We call for a International Boy Cott Against The Arabic Drug Empire. For they seek biological tactics of death. Billions of people will die while they sit in their cave and wait for it to run its course. As of no they build a weapon that is considered to be out dated because technology has advanced to where the use of atomic weapon is genocide and if we do not intervene every last many .woman and child in Iran will die and this will mark us and our children for decades to come. This all we wish to say for now. Henry Massingale Look for link Fasc Concepts at care2.com Do you want to come over and play ? And allow us to show you how to reach the world with your efforts and ours. Below is just one of our goals and we support anything that is just. No More Protesting Government Health Care Ideas It is also underway to stop petitions being filed Because you are poor you have no right to....{see story 2007} at our web site No public option in health bill? Not so fastLetter from Washington: Proposal that seemed dead showing signs of life.Dena BunisWashington Bureau ChiefThe Orange County Registerdbunis@ocregister.com Comments 12| Recommend 1I said a couple of months ago that it's dangerous to make predictions when it comes to health care.Then I proceeded to predict that there would be no public option in whatever health reform bill went to the House and Senate floors.Note to self: Listen to self. Stop making predictions.We was sent to care2 to help save the Freedom Of Speach, you are invited to see how in 2007 the poor was to be considered not to have rights in a caging concepts., and more issues.........Please forgive some of my writing, I am dyslectic so for now I have to use the computer to help me. It needs needs be known that we was sent to car2 because of how we offer our views and we place no copy right on none of our issues at www.fascmovement.mysite.com on google.com. It is a way to show that within it creation of FASC Concepts it is offered to you for free to open your mind to the WHAT IF ? We invite you to join a campaign that in its creation of the trickle effect of public awareness that Pay It Forward and The Pay It Forward Foundation, is to show respect of where it all started from and within other concepts of the groups and to care2.By nov, 1st we will bring 30 000 to our goal of 30 000 000 million people to care2 and your efforts within that group," I will Pay It Forward the respect that is in and for your group & efforts at care2." As the trickle effect moves forward to november 1st to the D Day, that it will be by of thousands of people that set forward the PAY IT FORWAD at one time to the media, Your group may use Pat It Forward with in this concept, and please use the acknowledgment in the memory of Trevor McKinney the 12 year old child for which he gave to all his love to people he did not even know.What is taking place as of now, is as we move forward to Nov.1st the D Day of a campaign to contact every media out let , and { WE WILL} bring 30 000 to our goal of 30 000 000 million people to care2 and your care2 group as well as FASC Concepts.The trickle effect as you can see is that a small release of goals,that is listed on AOL,YAHOO. and google.com, as it grows as we near to D Day, it is kind of HACK THE PLANET concept and have fun doing it, stay legal and say to each other are we having fun yet!! { Kind of waking up the next morning}, and finding 30 000 000 emails in your box for a Pay It Forward,{ campaign}. That The PAY IT FORWARD will bring forward international attention.So join us and lets make some noise and hack the planet have some fun as we move Pay It Forward for D Day.YOUR group will be most welcomed to join the in for trickle effect until D DAY. It is very important that there is respect to the other groups, in this and we will show the ut most respect for you.... Like this email we gotHenry MMary left a comment on the following article: Toddler Too Small for Health InsuranceHenry M.: This site you posted is nothing more than Republican spin. Advertising is not allowed in Care2. This site is so false, it's nauseating. To think people still think.......it's disgusting. my response to her, Nope sorry,Dear Mary , I do not belong to any party, I am Cherokee and Dakota Sou ix, Irish and German Jew, so all though it is with in your right to state your mind ,please understand this, we offer you respect and we as a nation within a nation that for most, harbor no ill well, so please so respect to a people that you have not a clue of who we are. Henry MassingaleOriginal Message:-----------------You must all ways show respect the best you canWE GOT HACKED SEE OUR 1ST SITE FOR Federal Act Security Card It is something I wrote at my site,That I do note ask for people to believe in what we say, I ask for you to believe in yourself and say ,what could you do to add to this, your words to protect this and also help make it a law. Within care2 a group was being formed and it is called { Federal Act Security Card} the term ACT or INACTMENT ,is to bring forward a law before Congress. This ACT becomes a bill and it is voted on of its merit, before it becomes a law.The creation of a petition for a ACT is to present a concept in to law. If you was to do a search for the group { Federal Act Security Card }, you will see that there is not one thing left within that care2 site, and this is because it was hacked. I can not get in until care2 finds the people who did this.If I left something out please email me. Henry Massingale

Henry Massingale (not verified)

at 01:47 on November 9th, 2009

November 8 2009Health care Bill makes history. The Bill is not even 24 hours old and it has seen the steps of failure. Is it true that within this Bill is a concept to force this on people or go to jail? You can find this story at the health care link, look for health care bill failed. you can find us on google.com www.fascmovement.mysite.com look for page 1 american dream Henry Massingale