Same sex partnerships and marriage

What happens if Gays and Lesbians establish their own church and conduct same sex marriages?Would it be an infringement on beliefs of those who are opposed to same sex marriage?Church is not a belief regulating authority.we are not living in the ages of Pope Innocent lll,the youngest Pope in history,who at the age of 39 declared"the whole world is an ecclesia".

But individual rights should address group rights and both rights need to be respected at the same time. Although individuals form groups and individual rights might seem to be given priority, group right should also be respected.

Just as those married with same sex enjoy the marriage,others who dont like it suffers psychologically from hearing this marriage. Thus, for the sake of individual right, group right is violated. Which one matters most?

To have deep sleep for few hours for physical and mental rest is important. But religious people (the group) at the church and the mosque voice loud through loud speaker at the critical time individuals have deep sleep. Individuals suffer from noise pollution just for the sake of group rights. This again is not good. Both individual and group rights respect each other at the same time. I think

BKW.In my opinion this is not a matter of groups rights and individuals rights.The example you cited of use of loudspeakers at the mosque doesn't fit into frame of arguments,I am sorry to differ with you on this point.Sexual preference neither hurt group interests,nor cause any kind of incovinience to any group.The opposition to same sex marriage is flawed;it is based on religious beliefs.The society can not be governed any longer by old set of beliefs.No doubt,belief system doesn't evolve and is always stagnant.But some where grey areas have to be discovered to accomodate those who don't subscribe to established beliefs.Aberration is not sin.

Dear t k Kidwai! My point here is about group and individual right. Same sex marriage is said to be individual right. But it affects those of others who do not like same sex marriage. The pain can be psychological on those who dont like same sex marriage, you know.

It is not only individual right that causes pain to group but also group right causes pain on individual. For example, I am from an ethnic group in a nation. I went to a place of another ethnic group in that nation. There, I applied to a government office in writing with my mother tangue requesting some service. But the Government office asked me to translate the language into that ethnic group language at my own expense. It means my individual right to speak and write in my mother's tangue is violated by the group right. The pain to me is the translation cost covered by me! So, there must be a balance between individual and group right. One should not cause pain on the other. Is that not?

The right of same-sex couples to marry has no effect on anyone other than those who like to complain because it gives them something to complain about. Canada has allowed same-sex couples to marry for years and it hasn't had any effect on the rest of the population. 

And by the way, BelaynehKassaWubie, do you still think that an anal fungus is making people gay in Ethiopia?  I hope since you posted that story you have done some research.

Are you suggesting that Churches should be forced to marry homosexual couples? Even if they consider it sinful?

Islam and Christianity both condemn homosexuality, It is unfair to expect them to change the tenets of their religion to please others.

How is it 'liberty' if you cant choose your own belief system?

Of course homosexuals should be allowed marriages, but they should not be able to overule the fundamental beliefs of the religion they are supposedly part of.

To be clear, and I wasn't when I wrote this, the law cannot show favoritism for marriage over civil partnership.

Religions and their members are free to their beliefs, but in the USA, the law will ensure equality for all and freedom from abuse and discrimination.

Good comments and discussion and that is what I usually try to accomplish with these posts.

"... do you still think that an anal fungus is making people gay in Ethiopia?" Dear JGMitChell! I did not say anal fungus triggers one to be gay. But a man gets fungus on his anal after a begining sexual intercourse due to the friction created and after that no one stops the gay with a fungus from finding another gay for sexual intercourse to get relief from the pain of the fungus. That is what I said what I usually hear from many people talking about gay!

t k kidwai, yes, I admit that language example I gave it not fit with the topic! 

"Legal Marriage" whether gay or straight is an illusion of freedom, when it actually brings religion into the law/state and vice-versa.  It's a violation of the separation of church & state, since marriage is a religious institution.  Only a church should decide who they marry.