Sarah Palin Aide: Crosshairs are 'Surveyor Marks'

by Jordan Yerman | January 10, 2011 at 11:30 am
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Sarah Palin Aide Rebecca Mansour: Crosshairs are Surveyor Marks

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In a radio interview with Tammy Bruce, Sarah Palin aide Rebecca Mansour tried to convince the public that the crosshairs on Sarah Palin's "Take Back the 20" bullseye map were not crosshairs, but surveyor's symbols. Nobody is buying it. Meanwhile, as Sarah Palin's camp tries to manage the fallout from the tragedy in Tuscon, the Take Back the 20 site was quietly taken down.

The Sarah Palin crosshairs map is still up on her Facebook page. Those are not surveyor marks. In fact, Sarah Palin herself describes them as bullseyes.

MANSOUR: I just want to clarify again, and maybe it wasn't done on the record enough by us when this came out, the graphic, is just, it's basically -- we never, ever, ever intended it to be gunsights. It was simply crosshairs like you see on maps.

BRUCE: Well, it's a surveyor's symbol. It's a surveyor's symbol.

Sarah Palin stated otherwise: Hard to refute she saw it as a "bullseye" not a surveyor's mark

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mnd

And the rhetoric and blame game begins.

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Letemhang

I guess since Palin is being vilified for bullseyes I better remove the center ring from my dart board or I might be considered a terrorist threat.

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Stager

Don't get it, do you, rightie?Palin's targets were on a public map persuading her conservative minions to eliminate the Commie socialist scum destroying our fine Christian nation. And Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly and many more right wing political Jihadists rant endlessly over a powerful radio net, imploring their gullible, undereducated flock (including you, genius) to carry out that agendaI don't care what you do with your dartboard, but I do have a good idea of how you can use your darts.

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Jerzyboy

Palin refers to the marks as "bullseyes". Do you understand what the quote marks mean? She's quoting the media who misinterpreted, for their own reasons, the surveyors marks as crosshairs! Crosshairs, as any one who ever handled a gun knows, don't exceed the boundaries of the circle. Look at those examples closely and try to be objective, as difficult as that may be.

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"thirty-aught-six"

They look like printer registry marks to me.

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greyjane

Yeah, because printer registry marks really rile up the voters.

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kneesus

No, they were obviously directed at her core audience of cartographers and surveyors.  So they were "surveyor's symbols".  Really?  Take another gulp of Palin-aid.You want to see a real woman?  Patricia Maisch, who wrestled ammo away from the gunman.  Palin can go shoot caribou until the cows come home, she's a coward for back pedaling, and a coward for not standing by her "Don't retreat, reload." comments.  Oh wait, that was out of context too juxtaposition-ed with her map.

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greyjane

You betcha!  It's all fun and games until you shoot someone's brains out!Then the "second amendment solutions" come to life and you have to live with your words.

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Piobar

Can Sarah Palin even spell "surveyor?" As for cross-hairs not exceeding the boundaries of the circle, as a rule that is true, but I have seen optical sights where there is a circle in the middle, which is clear, and the outer circle is opaque, and the cross-hairs fade into that circle. That is counter productive, and irrelivant to the point at hand, which is that they were intended origionally to represent a rifle sight, albeit a poor representation. Considering recent events, that is no longer a good choice; but to be honest, putting a target or lining up sights with a point on a map does not make people go out and shoot someone. People chose to kill each other. Maps, firearms, and other inanimate objects are unlikely to be that persuasive at arguing.

 Though, to be honest, I do not recall seeing cross-hairs marked on a map. Military maps, topographical maps, driving maps, I do not recall seeing them anywhere. Maybe its a regional thing; I have never bought a map in Alaska after all.

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Allen Braun

Surveyor marks?I've never seen a "rifle scope" symbol or "bullseye" used as a surveyor mark.  They are usually more complex in form.See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survey_marker for examples.

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mnd

My cross hairs look nothing like those on the map in question.  Maybe I'm using a surveyor's scope - that could be my problem all along.Who cares what symbol Sarah Palin used on her campaign map?  This same cross haired map tactic was also used by Democrats in the past during their campaigning.  Are you saying that this shooting was the fault of Sara Palin and her cross hair / survey mark, whatever map?  If so, maybe we should arrest Jody Foster for being so darn good looking and the author of Catcher in the Rye.  After all both incited John Hinkley Jr. to shoot President Reagan.This is the kind of rhetoric by the ideologues to further incite hate for opposing ideology and hiding the real problem; why didn't Jared Lee Loughner get the medical attention he needed for his mental illness?  

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Marvin Mullins

It's a crosshair graphic, why argue that fact? The intent from the Palin camp was most certainly the gun reference ala Deadeye Mama Grizzly whether they call it a bullseye or a crosshair. But just like the "Don't Retreat, RELOAD!" tweet, it doesn't mean she wants to really shoot someone, but shoot them down politically. It's not the first time this rhetoric was used to rally up the NRA lovin' masses and sadly, this tragedy brings home the reality of how stupid this kind of rhetoric is.The only good thing out of all this is that people are appalled by what *might* have been influenced by this bad choice of words and visuals to campaign a cause.

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biodiesel mj

Ms. Palin apparently doesn't know what a taint is either.

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Karen Hatter

Good try by the aide BUT, in ADDITION to the crosshairs, RED 'BLAST' SPOTS which coincide with the successful defeat of Democratic candidates in those specific areas, are CLEARLY seen on the same target map.

So, is it credible to pretend to believe that the surveying 'instrument', said to be what the crosshairs represented, was blasting areas already surveyed?

Obviously, those targeted on the map by the blast spots weren't harmed but, there is no escaping the crosshairs were meant to indicate crosshairs as on a gun sight. Survey instruments don't blast things.

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