Sarah Palin: "A Savage Business: Predator Control"

by Rhonda J Mangus | September 8, 2008 at 05:22 am
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Republican vice-presidential nominee, Governor Sarah Palin, has alarmed wildlife experts and activists by her continued promotion of Alaska' policy to gun down wolves from airplanes. Palin's administration also attempted to place a $150 bounty on the heads of wolves from certain areas. That move was quickly stopped by a state judge who indicated Palin's administration did not have the authority to make such payments.


Wildlife activists thought they had seen the worst in 2003 when Frank Murkowski, then the Republican governor of Alaska, signed a bill ramping up state programs to gun down wild wolves from airplanes, inviting average citizens to participate. Wolves, Murkowski believed, were clearly better than humans at killing elk and moose, and humans needed to even the playing field.


But that was before Sarah Palin took Murkowski's job at the end of 2006. She went one step, or paw, further. Palin didn't think Alaskans should be allowed to chase wolves from aircraft and shoot them -- they should be encouraged to do so. Palin's administration put a bounty on wolves' heads, or to be more precise, on their mitts.

In early 2007, Palin's administration approved an initiative to pay a $150 bounty to hunters who killed a wolf from an airplane in certain areas, hacked off the left foreleg, and brought in the appendage. Ruling that the Palin administration didn't have the authority to offer payments, a state judge quickly put a halt to them but not to the shooting of wolves from aircraft.

Detractors consider the airborne shootings a savage business, conducted under the euphemism "predator control." The airplanes appear in the winter, so the wolves show up like targets in a video game, sprinting across the white canvas below. Critics believe the practice violates the ethics of hunting, while supporters say the process is not hunting at all, but a deliberate cull.

Palin has argued that she is worried about Alaska's hunters, locked in perennial competition with the canine carnivores for the state's prodigious ungulate population. A hunter herself, Palin has battled critics of aerial wolf hunting with the support of the Alaska Outdoor Council, a powerhouse advocacy and lobbying organization for hunting, fishing and recreation groups. In addition to so-called urban hunters, who shoot moose mostly for fun, Alaska is home to a significant number of subsistence hunters, including some of the Native population. Subsistence hunters rely on an occasional moose to make ends meet. The wolves, Palin has said, are stealing food from their tables.



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CJaye
CJaye
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at 05:56 on September 8th, 2008

Rhonda J Mangus, I like this story. It's good stuff. Rhonda as I read this I cry. It makes sick! She's sick! What person in there right mind would do something like that? How would she like it if this was done to her.  My animals are more faithful and forgiving than any human I've ever known.  Wolves certainly don't get guns and say lets go hunt down the human. (maybe they should go hunt palin) And let me just say Moose hunting season just started yesterday in Alaska.  Hunters from all over the world come to Alaska to hunt moose.  The wolf is not a problem as much as everybody seems to make them out to be.  Other predators are far more dangerous than the wolf to the food source.

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Fairbanks

This issue was on the ballot 26 Aug 08.  It's over. 

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Rhonda J Mangus

Fairbanks, thank you for your comment.  The issue however is not over. Over 70,000 Alaskans voted to stop private aerial hunting of wolves on 26 August 2008, and the bill was defeated. Please follow the link, here: http://www.defenders.org/index.php


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Rhonda J Mangus

Cjaye, thank you so much for your comments and the Flag. As a former "sportswoman" (yes, this is true), I sympathize with your sentiment having, unfortunately, learned the "hard way". The videos I have uploaded are not for the "faint of heart". The suffering imposed upon these creatures is awful and unwarranted.

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BruceC

She is great isn't she?

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CJaye

I hope ur joking?

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CJaye

I knew of the hunting of bears and wolves from air but not to this existent.  How would she (Palin) like it if she was strapped to a wing of a plane, someone offered $150 bounty for her paws? I don't have anything against hunting for food your going to eat but to hunt just to kill is wrong in my opinion. That's just my opinion. I have family members who hunt all the time I will not go with them.  My sister in NC lives down the street from a hunt club she's there all the time. Not my thing!  This whole thing is WRONG! My critters are my babies.

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René

Guess you all think that moose and other animals should not be protected from the wolves.

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CJaye

Hi Rene, Glad your OK from the Hurricane. I think it's aweful!  Population control is one thing but just to kill for a bounty that's wrong.  The Paw thing is just plain sick, her prize or something.  It's like an emotional manipulator. Rule number one - if dealing with an emotional blackmailer TRUST your gut. TRUST your senses. Once an emotional manipulator finds a successful maneuver it’s added to their hit list and you’ll be fed a steady diet of this baloney.  The only reason the Lady got elected the people didn't like the previous Governor.   

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Rhonda J Mangus

CJaye, according to the story bounty is no longer at issue.  A state judge put a quick stop to it for the reason that Palin's administration had no authority to authorize this type of payment.

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René

Only in three of the eight designated areas, Rhonda. He ruled the other five legal.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Rene, "In early 2007, Palin's administration approved an initiative to pay a $150 bounty to hunters who killed a wolf from an airplane in certain areas, hacked off the left foreleg, and brought in the appendage. Ruling that the Palin administration didn't have the authority to offer payments, a state judge quickly put a halt to them but not to the shooting of wolves from aircraft." (see story)

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Rhonda J Mangus

Rene, to clarify further "Only in three of eight...".: and from the link you provided:

"Alaska is divided up into 26 game management units. The lawsuit challenged the program in areas where it is authorized.

Friends of Animals lawyer Michael Grisham says the judge found the program was valid in five areas, but failed to meet requirements in three others. Those areas are game units across Cook Inlet from Anchorage and two near Fairbanks.

The areas where the judge found it wanting were where the game board decided to extend it last year. Grisham said the board lumped together several new areas for predator control without making any new findings on the wolves, caribou and bears in those areas.

Board Game Chairman Cliff Judkins said the problems can be corrected through emergency regulation, something that will probably occur next week."

The " program" meaning aerial hunting, not bounty.


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dunkelberg

Don't be lulled into thinking this is a plan to protect Bullwinkle. 

It is all economics.  If people paid more to shoot wolves than moose, they might be shooting moose to protect the wolves.

I mean it is economics, actual science has nothing to do with it.


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Rhonda J Mangus

Hi Rene! Thank you for stopping by and commenting. I will be uploading a photo that portrays an interesting view that will answer your question. Thanks again.

Emilio Lizardo
Emilio Lizardo
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at 07:24 on September 8th, 2008

You know, I can see taking measures like this if packs of hungry wolves are taking 3-year old children off the streets, small adults walking alone and whatnot ...

This does not appear to be the case ... it just seems downright plain old mean and nasty ...

Maybe God told her to do it in a vision or something ...

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CJaye

I love your comment:) maybe God did. lol

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René
Gov. Responds to the Wildlife Act 

07-197 Governor Responds to the Protect America's Wildlife Act

September 26, 2007, Anchorage, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today criticized Congressman George Miller’s (D-CA) legislation to eliminate an important element of wildlife management by the State of Alaska.

“Moose and caribou are important food for Alaskans, and Congressman Miller’s bill threatens that food supply,” said Governor Palin. “Congressman Miller doesn’t understand rural Alaska, doesn’t comprehend wildlife management in the North, and doesn’t appreciate the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that gives states the right to manage their own affairs.”

Miller’s bill would ban the shooting of wolves from aircraft, a component of moose and caribou management plans in five specific areas of Alaska. Predation can keep populations of large game animals at persistently low levels, limiting or eliminating opportunities for Alaskans to secure wild game for food.

Governor Palin is in agreement with Alaska Congressman Don Young, who announced yesterday his opposition to Miller’s bill, emphasizing that it is an affront to the sovereignty of American states guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

“This bill would be an unprecedented federal incursion into traditional State management of fish and resident wildlife,” said Palin. “If the federal government can do this to Alaska today, it can do it to any other state tomorrow. The other states, particularly the western public land states, should join us in expressing their indignation.”

Contrary to what Representative Miller said in Washington yesterday, there is no “aerial hunting” of wolves in Alaska, the Governor said. “Our science-driven and abundance-based predator management program involves volunteers who are permitted to use aircraft to kill some predators in specified areas of the state where we are trying to increase opportunities for Alaskans to put healthy food on their families’ dinner tables. It is not hunting and we have never claimed that it is.”

Governor Palin said she will contact several other members of Congress to encourage them not to support Congressman Miller’s effort.

“It appears to me that the Congressman has been inadvertently drawn into service as a fundraiser for national animal rights organizations that commonly spread inaccurate information about Alaska’s game management programs, and with which we are in court on these issues right now,” said Palin.

Wildlife management policy in Alaska is set by the Alaska Board of Game, a public body appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the Alaska State Legislature. The Board deliberates by weighing evidence at public meetings. Testimony comes from Alaska Department of Fish and Game scientists, non-governmental organizations, and private citizens. Governor Palin stressed today that wolf and bear populations are extremely healthy in this state, and that predator control is intended to create more opportunities for humans to harvest moose and caribou for food, while maintaining healthy populations of predators.

“Our goal is to always have healthy populations of all wildlife, including wolves,” Palin said. “Alaska is the only state that still harbors a full complement of both large ungulates and large predators.”


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Emilio Lizardo

“Moose and caribou are important food for Alaskans, and Congressman Miller’s bill threatens that food supply,”

Fear
"Once a government resorts to terror against its own population to get what it wants, it must keep using terror against its own population to get what it wants. A government that terrorizes its own people can never stop. If such a government ever lets the fear subside and rational thought return to the populace, that government is finished."—Michael Rivero.

Fear is one of the most primordial human emotions and therefore lends itself to effective use by propagandists. Human beings can do great and terrible things when motivated by fear. Fear is essentially the survival instinct kicking in: "I'd better watch out because you can harm me." Fear being fundamentally irrational, it is one of the techniques most widely used by propagandists.

"When a propagandist warns members of [his/her] audience that disaster will result if [it does] not follow a particular course of action, [he/she] is using the fear appeal," observes the Propaganda Critic. "By playing on the audience's deep-seated fears, practitioners of this technique hope to redirect attention away from the merits of a particular proposal and toward steps that can be taken to reduce the fear."


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CJaye

She's so full of sh-- that it's not even funny this from Rhonda's article. 

"Across the board, Sarah Palin puts on a masquerade, claiming she is using sound management and science," says Nick Jans, an Alaskan writer who co-sponsored the initiative. "In reality she uses ideology and ignores science when it is in her way." The initiative was defeated last month.

Gordon Haber is a wildlife scientist who has studied wolves in Alaska for 43 years. "On wildlife-related issues, whether it is polar bears or predator controls, she has shown no inclination to be objective," he says of Palin. "I cannot find credible scientific data to support their arguments," he adds about the state's rational for gunning down wolves. "In most cases, there is evidence to the contrary."

Last year, 172 scientists signed a letter to Palin, expressing concern about the lack of science behind the state's wolf-killing operation. According to the scientists, state officials set population objectives for moose and caribou based on "unattainable, unsustainable historically high populations." As a result, the "inadequately designed predator control programs" threatened the long-term health of both the ungulate and wolf populations. The scientists concluded with a plea to Palin to consider the conservation of wolves and bears "on an equal basis with the goal of producing more ungulates for hunters."

Apparently Palin wasn't fazed. Earlier this year she introduced state legislation that would further divorce the predator-control program from science. The legislation would transfer authority over the program from the state Department of Fish and Game to Alaska's Board of Game, whose members are appointed by, well, Palin. Even some hunters were astounded by her power play.

The legislation would give Palin's board "more leeway without any scientific input to do whatever the hell they basically wanted," Mark Richards, co-chair of Alaska Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, wrote in an e-mail. The legislation is currently stalled in the Alaska state Senate.

Predator control in Alaska dates back to the 1920s and 1930s. Even then, wildlife biologists insisted that wolves were important to the area's natural ecology and not responsible for inordinate deaths of sheep, caribou or moose. Yet the scientists fought a losing battle against ranchers, hunters and government officials, who backed the extermination of tens of thousands of wolves. Aerial hunting began in earnest in the 1940s and continued through the 1960s after Alaska had earned statehood.

source:

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dunkelberg

Contrary to what Representative Miller said in Washington yesterday, there is no “aerial hunting” of wolves in Alaska, the Governor said. “Our science-driven and abundance-based predator management program involves volunteers who are permitted to use aircraft to kill some predators in specified areas of the state where we are trying to increase opportunities for Alaskans to put healthy food on their families’ dinner tables. It is not hunting and we have never claimed that it is.”

Ok, then the state uses people licensed to kill.  What a semantic sham. 

What she fails to mention is that the volunteers may sell the wolf pelts, which those with hunting licenses are not allowed to do.  

On the other hand, while many guides offer wolf hunts, they are not aerial hunts.  You can shoot wolves from boats and snow buggies, but not airplanes or helicopters without a special permit.

Barbara McPherson
Barbara McPherson
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at 09:53 on September 8th, 2008

Rhonda J Mangus, I like this story. It's good stuff.  When Yellowstone reintroduced wolves a few years ago, there was opposition from the ranchers as some wolf kills were inevitable.  This was countered with compensation paid for the killed cattle or sheep.  What they have found now that the wolf population is healthy there that the elk population is healthier too.  The weak and old are killed off, leaving more food for the rest of the elk.  The stream banks are in better shape as well because they aren't being overgrazed.  People who shoot animals from any vehicle are not hunters.  They are shooters who slaughter animals.

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Tim Ay

Rene-

You dont 'get it' do you?

The other animals are part of a balance. Wolves are part of that.

THEY, not humans, keep the other species healthy.


(NOT by shooting them from aircraft.)


They looked long and hard to find someone with enough

twisted and evil 'values' to be a fitting replacement to Dick Cheney.


They found her.


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CJaye

Rene' got it, she understood exactly.

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René

Don't think you got it, CJaye. I've lived next to the Rocky Mountain National Park in the mountains of Colorado for over 22 years. Have travelled and camped in many parks and forests and in the mountains all over the West year round for years. I do not hate hunters. I do not hate wolves or moose or elk or bears or mountain lions or other wild animals. I do not want to see any of them 'endangered' especially by overgrowth of one predator over others.


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René

wolf attacks, boldly in front of humans, how long before small humans the target?
http://www.adn.com/alaska/story/244284.html

FYI, wolves safe in 3 out of 8 areas by judge
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?fb_page_id=5720973755&S=8019775

letter to editor in Alaska newspaper


Palin owes no explanation

It's time for this media-bashing of our governor to come to a screeching halt. This is much ado about nothing. She was within her rights to fire or replace Walt Monegan at her discretion and she owes no one an explanation. He was offered another job, but opted to refuse it and whine instead.

As for Trooper Mike Wooten, he does not sound like a worthy representative of the Alaska State Troopers, if he's only done a fraction of the things mentioned. But all of a sudden, he's a "victim." And because of an alleged minor indiscretion, Chuck Kopp gets criticized for the simple reason that he's the governor's choice to replace Monegan.

The governor's political enemies are coming out of the woodwork and doing everything they can to discredit her. The "good ol' boys" have never accepted the fact that she won the election, beating one of their cronies. Her popularity and straight-arrow policies do not endear her to these sore losers. They should just crawl back into their respective holes and let the governor get on with the state's business.

-- Betty Forsyth

Anchorage


global warming in Alaska? chilly summer
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8967044

I suggest you all check with Alaskans and Alaskan news services before you get up on your soapboxes.

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joellerose

Thanks for this injection of facts and clarity, although what we are witnessing is a surge in the polls for McCain-Palin, largely driven by the tsunami of sewerage being shoveled out by the left-wing and their allies. They don't seem to be learning anything, so lets let them keep it up.

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Fairbanks

In two days Gov Palin will be back in the State to see her son off to Iraq.  Her welcome home is advertised so:

Welcome Home Rally!

Wednesday, September 10th
Welcome Home Rally with Governor Sarah Palin
The Sadler Business Plaza / Alaska Aerofuel
5904 Old Airport Road
Fairbanks, AK 99709

Doors Open at 4:30 p.m.
Program begins at 5:30 p.m.

She has taken to this VP thing like she was born to it.  Kind of amazing how quick it happened, but not really a surprise.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Hi everyone! I want to thank each of you for your comments and adding information that presented a variety of views on this matter, and to those of you who flagged this story -- it is deeply appreciated. 

It seems however that there is more to this story than meets the eye. The "state's regime", among other matters, apparently conflicts with Federal goals, and the methods used for "predator control" amounts to human manipulation of wildlife population that has the potential for devastating outcomes.  If anyone would like to take the time to read: Preemption of State Wildlife Law in Alaska: Where, When and Why, I recommend it. I think it will certainly put to rest many misconceptions surrounding this issue. I am still opposed to this type of "hunt". I find it brutal, inhumane, and unwarranted. http://www.law.duke.edu/shell/cite.pl?24+Alaska+L.+Rev.+145


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Rhonda J Mangus

Just an FYI: I was doing a crowd power video search for Alaska and Alaska wolves -- the videos (50 each search) appear to be no longer available. If someone finds different, please let me know. Thanks.

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