Senate Health Care Update

by Rory Cripps | November 22, 2009 at 07:49 am
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Senate health care legislation received the 60 votes needed last night to bring the bill to a full floor debate. Until Saturday, Senators Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas were not committed to allowing the bill to come up for debate. On Friday, Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska committed to supporting the procedural vote.  

In spite of the three Senator's votes to allow the bill to go to the floor for debate, they will not commit to supporting the bill in its present form. The present bill's "public option" provision is one of the main bones of contention. 

Sen. Blanche Lincoln  said about the bill, "Rather than create an entirely new government-run health care plan to compete with private insurers, I support health insurance reform that focuses on changing the rules of our existing employer-based private health insurance system." Sen. Lincoln is facing an uphill re-election battle in 2010 and polls indicate that she would lose the election if she supported the health care bill. 

Former Democrat and now Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman, of Connecticut, said,  "[The public-option provision] is kind of an eleventh-hour addition to a debate that's gone on for decades," After the vote, he said,  "I really think part of the reason why it's in there is to offer something to people who really want a single-payer system - a totally government-run system. But I think that would be a terrible idea for our country." 

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, of Nevada, said that he'll allow proposed amendments striking down the public option part of the bill. 

Democrats say that the health care bill will cost $849 billion over ten years. Republicans say that the cost will be $2.5 trillion and that the bill's $500 billion cuts in Medicare will hurt senior citizens. Republicans also say that the bill will allow taxpayer funded abortions. 

Today, the Washington Times quoted Sen. Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, as saying that the bill is "scaring the daylights out of Americans." The Times went on to quote Sen. Alexander as saying, "This bill is historic in its arrogance - arrogance that we in Congress are wise enough to take this complex health system that is 16 percent of our economy and serves 300 million Americans and think we can write a 2,000-page bill and change it all - all at once." 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/vp/34081589#34081589

From the Washington Times, Nov. 23:

Senate Democrats on Sunday sparred with each other over how to fix the nation's troubled health care system, with moderates threatening to scuttle legislation if their demands weren't met and the more liberal members warning their party leaders not to bend.

Final passage is in jeopardy, even after the chamber's historic 60-39 vote Saturday night to begin debate.

"I don't want a big-government, Washington-run operation that would undermine the ... private insurance that 200 million Americans now have," said Sen. Ben Nelson, Nebraska Democrat, considered a moderate.

One major sticking point is a provision that would allow Americans to buy a federal-run insurance plan if their state allows it. Moderates say they worry the so-called public option will become a huge and costly entitlement program and that other requirements in the bill could cripple businesses.

"I don't want to fix the problems in our health care system in a way that creates more of an economic crisis," Mr. Lieberman [Independent Senator from Connecticut] said.

The House approved its version of the bill earlier this month on a near party-line vote of 220-215.




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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

This bill has a long way to go yet. When and if this bill is passed in the Senate it still need to go to merging with the House Bill and then needs to be passed by both Houses.

I think we will be discussing this for a long time.

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Rory Cripps

ACP: Right O! The politicians have been trying to get national health care passed for decades. The present health care debate is going to go on and on and the outcome will be that no one will be happy if the bill were to pass both houses. It's a no win situation for the "progressives" in the Democratic Party, because they'll never be able to get the bill passed if it includes the legislation that their "progressive" base so desperately wants included in the bill.

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djermano

I bet they would pass it if Obama said Ok bring the troops home....Then told Eric Holder to do his job or he's fired....and prosecute Bush and Cheney for War Crimes and Torture.

The Rev.

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Rory Cripps

Thanks Rev! What about prosecuting Obama for War Crimes too?

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Hugh Askew

Here, Rory - from the local fish wrap.................

WASHINGTON - The health care legislation now up for debate in the Senate has serious problems, Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., said today on ABC's This Week.

“I would not let it get off the floor,” Nelson told host George Stephanopoulos. “That's the next round.”
Nelson delivered one of the key votes Saturday night to begin the debate, but he wants to see substantial changes in the bill. In particular, he opposes its creation of a new government insurance plan, or public option.

Stephanopoulos pointed out the changes Nelson is seeking put him at odds with a majority of House Democrats, who already passed their own health care bill.

He asked another guest on the program, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., whether her colleagues would go along with Nelson's efforts.
“What . . . you don't hear him saying is that there isn't any room for negotiation,” she said.

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Rory Cripps

Hugh: Thanks for the update! I think that this health care bill is going to come back to bite many Democrats. To me, the Democratic Party seems obsessed with passing health care reform and I don't believe that they're doing it for humanitarian purposes and out of the goodness of their hearts. It's essentially for ideological and political purposes. However the political disadvantages for them, if health care legislation should be passed, far outweighs the advantages in my opinion. And if there's no room for negotiation, and the bill is passed it will be a "lemon"--and a costly one at that . . . .

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YankeeJim

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This is not the healthcare legislation and solution that the nation needs. As you say, it is ideological and political, lip service that cons many into thinking they can believe in it. The President's management approach is flawed and the US political system is broken at the hands of the electorate. You cannot have effective representation in the USA when the electorate is on auto pilot and asleep as the ship of state drifts toward that economic ice berg that is directly ahead.


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Rory Cripps

Yankeejim: I'm like many other Americans in that I believe that the health care system is in need of reform. I'm not one of those that blindly supports the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries in the name of capitalism and free markets. Here in America, we pay substantially more for prescription medication and drugs that those in other countries pay (for the same exact product). And I'm definitely not a supporter of cost-cutting measures such as caps on medical malpractice lawsuits.

However I don't see the Democratic Party's health care reform proposal as a practical solution to lowering costs and increasing the quality of U.S. health care--just the opposite. I have no doubt that it will provide health insurance coverage to those that are not covered. But I don't see any way that the addition of millions more Americans to the health insurance roles won't diminish the quality and quantity of care that Americans who are now covered receive.

In my opinion, the provisions of the proposed health care bill are not well thought out. I also think that the Democrats are trying to get the bill passed before the 2010 elections no matter what, because they're worried about losing seats in both houses. There's got to be a better approach towards health care reform.


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djermano

There is, it's called TCM...Traditional Chinese Medicine....they live longer than fat Americans...and they take care of their parents.

The Rev.

 

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Rory Cripps

REV: Thanks for your input! Yes! There are indeed too many overweight Americans. I can attest to that! HA! They should all go on a rice and fish broth diet. What are your other thoughts on the proposed health care legislation in the Senate?

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