September 12 Protest Signs in Washington, racism?

by The_Cynic | September 15, 2009 at 06:20 pm
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You look around - and through the eyes of a foreigner, looking in on the USA is not looking into a jar of wonderment and awe.

People I speak to who are not American ask me, for I am sincerely interested in US politics, "Why do those people act like that? All that black guy is doing is trying to get them all healthcare - are they really that nuts?"

The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.

I’ve been loath to admit that the shrieking lunacy of the summer — the frantic efforts to paint our first black president as the Other, a foreigner, socialist, fascist, Marxist, racist, Commie, Nazi; a cad who would snuff old people; a snake who would indoctrinate kids — had much to do with race.

I do say that; that it isn't all Americans like that - just some of them, because America has been like this for years and any change seems too much change and ... well, I do defend Republicans as well as Democrats, or at least try to.

Even though I do that people ask me why. When I see some of the things on TV that I have over the last few months - I ask myself the same question.

I cannot, though I do give it a go, defend American Conservatism - not the Glenn Beck kind, anyway. That, to me, is just nuttery that would have him seriously looked at as more a bad comedian rather than a TV presenter and right-wing radio host - is it that radio still holds more of an audience in the US than anywhere else? Limbaugh, Beck, Dobbs - maybe it is cable TV that is the saviour to the radio waves. I really don't know.

Though a majority of Americans elected a 'Black' president there, to me, does not seem to be any or a post racial America. Many in the wider world thought that this was the case when Obama was elected - but with the protests as are we can only come to the conclusion that we are wrong.

Is it a new rebellion that is forecast by others on NP?

I don't think so, but I have been wrong many times before. Is it just the South that cannot cope with having a president who is not white?

Is racism ingrained so deep that it cannot be simply washed away with a democratic election? Maybe so.


If Republicans had gotten everything they wanted for the last seventy-five years or so, the United States of America would have no Social Security, no Medicare, no Aid to Dependent Children, no civil rights, no environmental protections, no privacy rights to make contraception legal. There would be no business taxes, either, which could mean an even more vigorous business sector but also lots of gated communities and private security guards and — who knows? — maybe death squads to put down the inevitable insurrections.

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albertacowpoke

I doubt that the protesters have anything to do with racism, although some of them may be bigots. 

I saw the same name calling an protests levied against President Bush, Jimmy Carter and others.

Unfortunately in the US, politics is a bloodsport and when you look at recent comment on both CBC and CTV regarding Harper's visit to the White House, you will see that same hateful comments are expressed by some Canadian bloggers.  Debates and common sense have obviously become rare.

There are extremists on either side of the political spectrum, unfortunately those are the ones that make the news as networks advance their political agendas.

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Rhonda J Mangus

Thanks for this, The_Cynic. And Now the Race Card (The Provocateur, Monday, September 14, 2009).


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lounsbury

You wrote: "If Republicans had gotten everything they wanted for the last seventy-five years or so, the United States of America would have no Social Security, no Medicare, no Aid to Dependent Children, no civil rights, no environmental protections, no privacy rights to make contraception legal."

Actually if Democrats had gotten everything they wanted for the last seventy-five years or so, the United States of America would have no Social Security, no Medicare, no Aid to Dependent Children, no civil rights, no environmental protections, no privacy rights to make contraception legal.

We'd be speaking Russian and you wouldn't have any rights at all.

Funny how that balance of power works out, eh?

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QueensHart

Here!Here!  Lounsbury You Got IT!  Actually it is not really 'funny'...it is the disease of denial when the figures show the truth of what Democrats do..SPEND...SPEND.....SPEND AND THE SILLY REPUBLICANS SIT ON THEIR ARSE'S AND LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.

 

I wonder what the people do when they cannot spend other people's money?  Oh, they go in debt too.  I wonder what the statistics are for those on welfare are..probably the only ones in office are not.

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Ranter22

Every problem we now have we have had for a while.Except for those bailouts. Those started flowing during the Bush term. No government can fix all problems. I am troubled by some things being suggested lately by people posting on issues. Some have openly voiced a takeover in the US. While still others suggested the same thing with more time sensitive urgency.The intended or implied result would be by description, two world leaders bombing each other because they won't accept a compromise. Hate,fear,mistrust,personal interests,judgmental and identity crisis streaming through the minds and hearts of so many. Preferring to attempt to destroy the very essence of that which has been their only conduit for prosperity. Is America (all of the USA) better off dead? The aggravation and resentment felt by those who will not accept a leader because of his color is really the fear coupled with trepidation about their chances as a non black entity. The belief of exactly what some are proposing to do now. Is the institution of a black person, elected to office by non black voters and black voters alike not a sign with enough significance of good change?  The president of the United States of America is a black man, say it ! There is no higher office in American politics higher than this.   Yes, there is still racism, bigots and other objectors  and persecution among us in the USA. Some will try to steal the importance of this accomplishment, yet there is no legitimate argument to engage in seizing the moment as though it were the last. In the end the proposition of any controversial action may result in eroding the merits of this  triumph. I have come across people who have mistreated and criticized me and worst than that. They were white or black or Latino.  Some say that 1% of Americans foot the bill for 299 million people here. The richest of people financially cannot by themselves vote in anybody, neither can they remain rich in America without the rest of us. Arguments are subjective, One day you can win one and another day lose one. What I can see of president Obama is that he does not have all the answers and is trying to fix something in spite of many objections. Taking on too many issues which have been in the trailing edge for so long. Too much too fast. That also applies to his preference in recognizing Muslim religion and some people who are Muslim, which he praised. All this within a time when many Americans are still hurt in the wake of 9/11. Common sense should have prevailed as he considered doing that. The equivalent of Japan praising the US subsequent to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It should not be about another civil rights conflict. Mr. Obama is a grown man and a smart man, he can take care of himself and is not hopefully asking for a civil war. Again, winning a debate does not make a person right. How one behaves is for others to say, whether that someone is right or wrong.

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lounsbury

My response can be best summed up with this...
Why liberals can't understand Glenn Beck, and why it matters

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CMartel2

Actually, Clinton never ran a surplus, either.  All Clinton did was rob social security to pay for his programs.  It was a mirage.  There were far more people working than retiring at the time, as the boomers were still in their working prime.  Thus, we had a nation bringing in more in social security taxes than payments.  Clinton actually took money out of social security and used it to spend on other budget items, hence the "surplus." Now social security is, of course, going broke.  In part because of Clinton's actions.  In part because of every political regime's behavior.  And in part because the whole system in unsustainable and the government has no business being involved in some ponsey scheme like this.  Not a one of you can argue to me that the government is better capable of managing your own money better than you are.  So why do you allow the theft of your money for some fraudulent program like social security?The simple answer is because that's what you've been told to do.  Because you really haven't learned to embrace self-reliance and liberty.  Government is a yolk of which we could use far, far less. And no, the biggest spending presidents were not Republicans.  That title belongs solely to Barack Obama now.   His 1.9-trillion dollar deficit makes the worst of the Bush years: 500-billion, seem like Monopoly money.

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Cecilia_Areore

Regarding racism, 95% of the black vote went to the black candidate.  I fail to see how anyone can get away with that kind of claim when it's clearly the blacks in the United States who are the racists voting for nothing other than the color of a man's skin.  You can't hypnotize another group of people to think that much in lock-step or be that ideologically homogenous and boring. It's racism.  Pure and simple.

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