Sex abuse rife in other religions, says Vatican

by generaldecay | September 28, 2009 at 10:57 pm
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The Vatican has lashed out at criticism over its handling of its paedophilia crisis by saying the Catholic church was "busy cleaning its own house" and that the problems with clerical sex abuse in other churches were as big, if not bigger.

I'm not sure why the Vatican has decided to come out with this statement now. Moreover, I'm not sure why it matters. If my neighbour's car is dirty, that doesn't make the dirtiness of my car any less, well, dirty.

In a defiant and provocative statement, issued following a meeting of the UN human rights council in Geneva, the Holy See said the majority of Catholic clergy who committed such acts were not paedophiles but homosexuals attracted to sex with adolescent males.

Now this is controversial! Not only is the Church basically saying that the sexual abuse committed by the clergy wasn't wrong, but that it was only 'natural'. Never mind that the Catholic Church is fundamentally opposed to homosexuality, but has decided to use it as a convenient 'excuse' for abuse. They have also ignored the fact that sex is only sex when consent is received from both parties. Otherwise, it is rape.

The statement from the Vatican goes on to try to further dismiss the abuse by stating that 'only 1.5%-5% of Catholic clergy were involved in child sex abuse'. Because that makes it all OK.

The Catholic Church will never admit that it was wrong in its protection of rapists and sexual abusers. Indeed, it seems that it will continue to make excuses for those people instead of trying to repair the damage that they caused.

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lalith

It will be interesting if the Vatican gives out more details about the other religions it is talking about. It will be good to know. If others doing it exonerates the Catholic Church from its sins, then we must see what this new dogma is.

I wonder what the Vatican says about clergy with aids/HIV? I am submitting an old article for the readers of NP.

"Roman Catholic priests in the United States are dying from AIDS-related illnesses at a rate four times higher than the general population and the cause is often concealed on their death certificates, The Kansas City Star reported Sunday.

        In the first of a three-part series, the newspaper said death certificates and interviews with experts indicated several hundred priests have died of AIDS-related illnesses since the mid-1980s and hundreds more are living with HIV, the virus that causes the disease.  'I think this speaks to a failure on the part of the church,' said Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of the Archdiocese of Detroit.  'Gay priests and heterosexual priests didn't know how to handle their sexuality, their sexual drive.  And so they would handle it in ways that were not healthy.'
        The Star received 801 responses to questionnaires that were sent last fall to 3,000 of the 46,000 priests in the United States.  Six of 10 priests responding said they knew of at least one priest who had died of an AIDS-related illness, and one-third knew a priest living with AIDS.  Three-fourths said the church needed to provide more education to seminarians on sexual issues.  'How to be celibate and to be gay at the same time, and how to be celibate and heterosexual at the same time, that's what we were never really taught how to do.  And that was a major failing,' Gumbleton said.
        Asked about their sexual orientation, 75 percent said they were heterosexual, 15 percent said they were homosexual, and 5 percent said they were bisexual.
        The Rev. John Keenan, who runs Trinity House, an outpatient clinic in Chicago for priests, said he believes most priests with AIDS contracted the disease through same-sex relations.  He said he treated one priest who had infected eight other priests.
        The Star said precise numbers of priests who have died of AIDS or become infected with HIV is unknown, partly because many suffer in solitude.  When priests tell their superiors, the cases generally are handled quietly.
        The newspaper cited the case of Bishop Emerson Moore, who left the Archdiocese of New York in 1995 and went to Minnesota, where he died in a hospice of an AIDS-related illness.  His death certificate attributed the death to 'unknown natural causes' and listed his occupation as 'laborer' in the manufacturing industry.

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generaldecay

lalith, thank you for this and the recommendation. I would like to see this new, strange dogma also!

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Sputnic

A mad shia cleric advocated "thighing" recently. And there was a pedophile scandal involving jehova's witnesses in the UK recently. What happened in the catholic church stinks of cover up, which leads me to believe there were, or still are, high ranking pedophiles in the catholic church. I happen to know forced sodomy is a tool used to make "problem" children conform. They break childrens spirits to make them "behave".

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lalith

Like the first term in military training.

A civilian joins the military. He is drilled and broken into nothing. Then he is made a soldier. Looks as if the forced sodomy part is the catholic church's way of militarizing helpless children

The 2004 John Jay Report commissioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops was based on surveys completed by the Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States. The Report determined that, during the period from 1950-2002, a total of 10,667 individuals had made allegations of child sexual abuse.

Wow!

The allegations

The time period covered by the John Jay study began in 1950 and ended in 2002. The number of alleged abuses increased in the 1960’s, peaked in the 70’s, declined in the 80’s and by the 90’s had returned to the levels of the 1950’s.

Of the 11,000 allegations reported by bishops in the John Jay study, 3300 were not investigated because the allegations were made after the accused priest had died. 6700 allegations were substantiated, leaving 1000 which could not be substantiated.

According to the John Jay report, one-third of the accusations were made in the years 2002-3. Another third of the allegations were reported between 1993 and 2001.

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Sputnic

Interesting statistics there. Very worrying, at least it appears to be declining. Interesting military analogy, funnily enough, one of the pedophiles that worked at my reform school was a member of the local territorial army.

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Scott Wu

1.5%-5% sounds pretty high to me!

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generaldecay

HA!  Really! Not to the Catholic Church. Perhaps if it was 90%, they would take it seriously!

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Vic De Zen

Interesting that the vatican would reference other religions when usually, specifically with Catholic and Christianity, it being a faith based concept, they not supposed to acknowledge other religions at all.  I could be totally off base here.  That sounds like too much of copp out.  Just because any other religion does it doesn't make it any less wrong.  the catholic cases just happen to be the most publicly known.

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