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The silly bible and 1/2 of Americans don't believe in evolution
Did you know almost 50% of Americans believe that lung cancer is caused by little elves tearing holes in lungs, and not things like smoking? Well, the politicans elected by the tobacco lobby might like people to believe that. Did you know that 50% of Americans believe earthquakes are caused by a wrathful god, wait, a lot of Americans do believe that. I bring this up because almost 50% of Americans believe that the earth and the universe is less than 10,000 years old.
Anyone who believes that lung cancer was caused by little elves or food poisoning by a spell by a witch, would be laughed off as an idiot. But, we respect, for some reason, the belief that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. Contradicting all fossil evidence, all genetic evidence, all radioactive dating longer than carbon dating, but who cares what scientists say anyway?
Because it is a religious belief of unfortunately just over 1/2 of all American Christians, then that belief supposedly deserves some form of intellectual respect. No, it does not. Intellectual respect is only deserved for things that are built on a solid foundation of knowledge and reason. Talkorigins is a great website by the way, to learn about evolution. Oh by the way, music can evolve by people listening to random noise. People rate parts of the noise or sound and through steps, that eventually becomes music.
Lastly, I was just listening to conservative talk radio while writing the above part, and I heard a guest talking about atheists. Of course, whenever the Christian right-wing talks about atheists/atheism, you should be as careful as walking around fields with a lot of bulls.
He believed that atheists opposed Christian religious symbols put up by the government (such as 10 Commandments displays on public courthouse lawns) because atheists are supposedly afraid of any religion with moral absolutes. Really, that's it. Us atheists are just afraid of the great moral virtues in the bible. Here, are some of them by the way.
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
" Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)"
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her."
So, the moral absolutes into the bible are killing anyone who rejects verdict of judge or priest or who strikes his dad. Also, if you rape a woman, make sure you have some silver, and you are all good. Yes, the bible does have absolute moral rules, stupid ones, but absolute ones none the less.



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muzak (not verified)at 02:22 on June 27th, 2012
It's too bad your noise never evolves. You're a Intellectual caveman who thinks denigrating what you don't understand is a sign of intellectual prowess.
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Kossam (not verified)at 02:52 on June 27th, 2012
Talking about silly things? Evolution as promoted by our modern lobbyists certainly is. Please, learn a few basic things about genetics, and you will see that it is completely absurd to believe that life evolved through unguided evolution (and very religious to believe it evolved through guided evolution). The creation of the complex information systems needed even for the simplest life forms demands such huge leaps of faith that it is ridiculous to pretend that such convictions are based on more than belief. As a software developer, busy designing intelligent information in my daily life, that is beyond obvious. Natural selection is not a creative, enriching engine, but a streamlining function reducing total genetic content. But random mutations is an impossible engine for development of useful, innovative genetic material (to be selected upon), and you only need to have high school understandings of logic and math and not sit full of predefined concepts to realize this. Thanks.
at 04:33 on June 27th, 2012
Oh, so you believe Kossam in the magical lump of clay theory? YOu believe in a god I am sure, um, where did this god came from? Where did it come from? Always existed, really? What evidence? Sorry, I believe PhDs in biology and related fields over a guy named Kossam posting on my column, whose namme isn't even verified.
Also, you mix up the origins of life with evolution, they are two different subjects, as a supposed expert in this field, which you seem to believe that you are, you would know this. The creation of the first simple life was a proceess involving millions of years with quintillions of organic molecules.
Finally, sigh, but natural selection does nothing to do with changing genetic content but that is the product of random mutations. Natural selection just favors those mutations which allow the animal/species more likely to survive.
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Kossam (not verified)at 12:21 on June 27th, 2012
JerryM,You are sounding as though you believe in a lump of sarcasm...You don't like my name Kossam. Your name JerryM doesn't exactly say much either. Who are you? I have absolutely no idea except for reading today's post and your follow-up comment. But it doesn't matter much either.You are correct in stating that the origin of life and its evolution thereafter are two different issues. I did not mean anything else, but maybe I did not make it clear that I believe both to fall under the same problem. Both as explained by contemporary darwinism are unlikely to the degree of being silly. It's just that the first is infinitely impossible to the power of ten, whilst the second is infinitely impossible to the power of two, to put it metaphorically. Random mutations, irrespective of how many gazillion iterations you choose to apply to them, do not provide a "possible although unlikely" explanation for how our world's current life forms came to be. That's a question of math and understanding basic genetic principles. The fossil record, even in its most lenient interpretation does not provide the time needed - and because we are looking at such infinitely minute potential progress, there is no reasonable reason to believe this would be possible no matter the time scales applied. True, we have not learned everything about genetics yet, but what we have learned so far clearly show that the engines of change that random mutations provide do not pull in the needed direction, and certainly not with the necessary force to explain the origins of species. (I am now assuming the hypothesis that all species evolved from one common ancestor). In fact, Charles Darwin in his time had an interesting theory, that could have been proven right by future research uncovering gray areas. He believed that hereditary features could be trained; e.g. a blacksmith working hard and gaining stronger upper arm muscles would pass these on to his offspring. That would have been an engine of change with potency, if the hypothesis was proven true. Unfortunately, genetics showed that this was not the case. Random mutations as a driving force for explaining the degree of change needed to select the good material afterwards, and obtain our current complexity of life forms is a totally unsatisfactory theory, which can only be made intellectually acceptable if one believes some extra-natural (or yet unkown) force intervened regularly along the way of evolutionary history to boost and guide this process heavily - which too seems like an odd supposition.As I said, I myself am a system developer, and spend my days composing codes that need to execute correctly - or if they fail my "organism" (software) dies. If I were to run this process unguided, putting it through gazillions of random mutations and only keeping the most promising (I know what a genetic algorithm is), then I could still impossibly arrive at a useful result. True, genetics and software development are not exactly the same, but research has shown that DNA is indeed a very complex coding language. It's not like putting lego blocks together where almost any combination of blocks can produce something "interesting", whatever it is, that can then reproduce itself and be meaningfully selected upon.If however current-day darwinists like yourself one day uncover a better explanation for the creation of new genetic material, then the theory could be worth listening to again. Until then, please don't accuse people of being silly whilst believing in things that are definitely from the realm of fairy-tales yourself.
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muzak (not verified)at 20:23 on June 27th, 2012
JerryM has chosen a theory and offers nothing but belittlement and ridicule to those who he states believes otherwise. ie: Those who have religious faith can not hold two opposing ideas at the same time -because he can't.