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Something more important than the Supreme Court on Obamacare
How much does it cost?
The Court’s judgment about the legality of certain requirements in the healthcare law is essential and its views will affect future legislation and action no doubt. But today, I watched testimony before the Joint Committee on Debt Reduction and the government accountant couched his answers with dragged out caveats and conditional phrases that one may expect from an accountant or an economist, even worse. You can’t get straight answers about how much things will cost and how much can be saved resulting from changes in the laws, the rules, and systems.
This is essential in modern government and is why Dr. Jim Rodger and I wrote the book Smart Data, Enterprise Performance Optimization Strategy ©2010 Wiley Publishing.
We must have model-driven management with predictive capabilities. Le gality is one aspect of determining the value and feasibility of laws and their implementation.
“The Supreme Court and the politics of health care
Posted by Chris Cillizza at 03:37 PM ET, 09/29/2011
The news that the Justice Department had requested that the Supreme Court examine President Obama’s health care law means that a verdict from the nation’s highest court will likely come sometime next year — right in the heart of the 2012 race.
While the decision will undoubtedly draw massive amounts of media attention, political strategists on both sides of the aisle questioned how large an impact the ruling would have on how health care will play out in the 2012 presidential election.
“Obamacare is going to be a big issue in the 2012 elections whether the Supremes decide it or not,” predicted Republican pollster Glen Bolger.
Democratic pollster Fred Yang responded that “while attitudes are fairly set this will be the exclamation point for the ‘pro’ or ‘con’ position....It will have an impact that way, and also by re-injecting the issue into the campaign dialogue.”
A look at polling on the issue makes clear that public opinion on it is remarkably stable.
The September Kaiser Family Foundation survey — our baseline for numbers on the issue — showed that 41 percent of people said they had a favorable view of the law while 43 percent said they had an unfavorable one. Two-thirds of Democrats see the law favorably while three quarters of Republicans view it unfavorably.
According to the Kaiser data, support for the law has been between 39 percent and 42 percent since October 2010 while opposition to it peaked at 50 percent in January but has since receded back into the low 40s.
Republicans point to that data as evidence that the law isn’t popular and isn’t going to get any more popular no matter what the Court does.
Democrats insist that looking only at that topline number is a mistake.
One Democratic strategist who closely tracks polling on health care made the case that peoples’ view of the law are entirely dependent on their view of President Obama; those who like him support it, those who don’t, well, don’t. (There’s also some portion of those who view the law unfavorably who wanted it to be more, not less, sweeping.)
The better question, this source argued, when it comes to gauging the public’s view on the health care law is whether or not people want to get rid of it.
A majority — 52 percent — in the September Kaiser poll said they want to keep the law as is (19 percent) or expand it (33 percent) while 37 percent said they either wanted the law repealed and replaced with a Republican alternative (16 percent) or repealed outright (21 percent).
While the general stability of the numbers surrounding health care suggest that no external event — even something as major as a Supreme Court ruling — will drastically alter public perception, there’s little doubt that how the ruling comes down will matter at least at the fringes.
A decision in support of the law could allow Obama to move beyond the debate over the politics of the law and into its specific provisions — many of which are quite popular.
Obama already uses the health care law in his stump speech in front of Democratic donors and activists; a victory at the Supreme Court level would likely mean that that type of rhetoric would get a broader (read: in front of independents and in swing states) airing.
A defeat for the law would further embolden opponents of it and raise questions about the President’s initial motivations and the process — an ugly one by any standard — that led to the law’s passage.
“If the Court rules that Obama overreached, I’d expect the numbers to get even worse,” said Republican pollster Chris Wilson. “The news coverage [will] give the Republican nominee a springboard to use [health care] as a campaign issue — one more example of Obama’s failed policies.”
One other factor to consider when trying to assess how major an issue health care will be next fall is who Republican nominate.
If former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney winds up as the Republican nominee, it’s hard to see Republicans going to hard at the health care law due to the fact that Obama himself has said the plan was based on something Romney signed into law in the Bay State.
Romney, for his part, has argued there are many differences between the two plans but it’s tough to imagine him spending too much time litigating health care in a general election.
If Texas Gov. Rick Perry is the nominee, on the other hand, it’s much easier to imagine health care at the center of a campaign based on the idea that the Obama Administration has repeatedly overreached in an attempt to broaden the influence of the federal government.
Democrats point out that Perry’s health care record in far from unassailable — more than six million Texans don’t have health insurance — and promise an aggressive education effort if the governor attacks on the issue.
Health care will play a role in how voters make up their mind in the 2010 election. But, don’t assume the Court’s expected ruling will fundamentally alter the political calculus on the issue. Many voters’ minds are already made up.”



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"thirty-aught-six" (not verified)at 14:38 on September 29th, 2011
"A defeat for the law would further embolden opponents of it and raise questions about the President’s initial motivations and the process — an ugly one by any standard — that led to the law’s passage." Beyond the truth of this statement the rest of the article shows that it isn't about the policy at all, rather if Obama Care remains "unexplainable" and gives Obama a political win. The people can go !@#$ themselves and deal with the issues as it impacts their lives personally as they enter a hospital for treatment they assume is covered since their payments have increased across the board. [The cost for businesses to buy health coverage for workers rose the most this year since 2005 and may reach $32,175 for a family in 2021, according to a survey of private and public employers.] [The average cost of a family policy climbed 9 percent in 2011 to $15,073, according to a poll of 2,088 private companies and state and local government agencies by the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation in Menlo Park, California, and the Chicago- based American Hospital Association’s Health Research and Educational Trust.]
at 15:12 on September 29th, 2011
We will all be working for out doctors.
at 15:11 on September 29th, 2011
Personally I like Obama, but after initial political effort failed with the original attempted healthcare plan legislation, it should have been dropped. I'm not a fan of this 'Affordable Care Act' .
at 02:19 on September 30th, 2011
For me I admired his political success, though as a voter and citizen, person of character is only one criterion, albeit important.
Jamming incomplete and not vetted legislation of this importance through Congress without having achieved a degree of bipartisan support was a rush job that undermined his credibility. Our nation's medical health is at stake, and he did not concern himself sufficiently with the details.
One qualification that he has for the Presidency is his being a Constitutional lawyer. Citizens would expect that any legislation promoted by him would be legal at least.