A Statement to a New Yorker about the Air Force One flyover.

by batvette | April 29, 2009 at 02:39 am
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(From the author: this is a short commentary I made toward a resident of the Big Apple about criticism of the recent Air Force One flyover, it picks up after a couple of paragraphs I omitted)



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Where I might fire one across your bow so to speak, is to perhaps ask that you channel your anger not at Americans doing what Americans used to take for granted, but at Osama Bin Laden or whoever (if you like) is responsible for filling us with such trepidation in our daily lives that 8 years later we are still afraid to tell the world our duly elected leader can fly his airplane over the greatest city of freedom and democracy in the world and take pictures for the history books any damn time he wants to, and no angry fundamentalist hiding in a cave is going to scare us into being afraid of letting him do so. 



That's the anger I felt over this story. What have we become that Air Force One escorted by F-16's caused Wall St. to not stand and salute,(even with one finger, if you oppose him) but run in panic?  We probably didn't hear much of it, but I bet the world was embarrassed for us. We're supposed to be a rock they can depend on or a tall tree they gather under for shelter, not a willow bending over in the breeze.



The "terrorist threat" is not nearly as great as some in the government made it out to be to pass their oppressive legislature, but remember terrorists attack the weak because that's who it works best on, and they'll get away with it- if I'm a New Yorker who didn't want another 9/11 me thinks your traditional defiant middle finger is a better defensive posture than on the knees.



Thank you for considering my position.


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djermano

Since you are not a New Yorker.....you have nothing to say that will convince us you are really an American.....Ah but only the murdering kind....

God loves humility....not your IQ.

Rev, Jermano

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batvette

For those puzzled by the childish and insulting reply without provocation.... 

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/obamas-big-spending-bill-will-fail-because-911#comment-367875

Some people can't accept being wrong and carry grudges.

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Anonymously Given


Insecurity.

It's the hook that they use to drum up support for the new "brown shirt" organizations. 

Obviously, a normal flyover should not invoke hysterical reaction,  except from the cowering un-Americans who have taken  memberships in the various (OS) groups that are systematically  dismantling our country via their own fears.

But, lest we lose perspective, I think we should consider the altitude of the flyover.  I seem to remember reading a post wherein it was  asserted that  the flight was done at a very low altitude.  If so, then the thunderous roar may have been a good grounds for people to have been  nervous about it.  From the ground any markings on the aircraft would probably not be visible, and the fighter escorts may have been seen as "chasing" the bigger aircraft.  I haven't sourced these remarks, nor have I read the related articles, so I may be ignorant of the facts.

Additionally, I believe that the plane may actually have been a backup plane, and was not carrying anyone but the pilot.




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batvette

Re: Low altitude... perhaps that is worth mention, I worked at NAS Miramar in the Navy and later was in its flight path  working in the civilian world for ten years. I'm also in the flight path of Lindbergh Field (San Diego) and have been for 26 years.

(they sure have gotten quieter since the old days!) 

a jet roaring over wouldn't get a second look from me.

OTOH you could argue that after 9/11 they're practically old hands at watching high speed low passes, so..... meh.

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Anonymously Given


Speaking of  noise and silence, it sure has been quiet around here lately.  There's been a stark change over the past couple weeks, most  notably involving a near cut-off of the usual crud from the neighbors. 

Is there a cell phone battery shortage that I am unaware of?

Suddenly an eerie, queer-feeling silence has fallen uber alles.  It's a respite that's sure to be short lived, I'm sure ... 



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batvette

Mine have been working 7/24, extra effort even. This  stuff takes up a lot of my time too.

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Anonymously given


While I have endured about fifteen years of this clandestine gestapo operation, I have noticed that along with the general rhythm of things, there is an ebb and a flow, and within a manifestation of such variance,  the shadow regime operatives seem to occasionally turn off their efforts for a time ... sometimes stretching on for a few weeks or even a month ...

Stated more accurately, their efforts are occasionally turned off by virtue of a temporary stay of the usual automated harassment-dispatch communications, brought about by a (temporary) suspension of  the database entries that are related to (in this case) me.  This temporary cessation of local activity probably arises from the need to redirect effort, for reasons unknown to me.

The street level perps pretty much act as mimics for whatever command/order comes across on the network node(s) that they carry, so the perceived assault on targets can be switched on and off like a light bulb.  It takes only a few keystrokes.

Like I have mentioned previously, the street level perps put as much thought into what they are doing as blocks of wood.  They really do act entirely like automatons with regard to the stalking apparatus.  Because these street level operatives are simple tools (in more ways than one), it is the ying-yang schmucks who put their grubby little fingers on the tool handles, or control mechanisms (i.e., the harssment network and database infrastructure) who deserve our collective investigative efforts.

These people whom I reference as the controllers or administrators are the only ones for whom real prison time and real monetary damages are eventually possible.  These administrators are the equivalent of the technical and/or administrative level SS officer corps in Hitlers regime.

Very few German infantry were hung at Nuremberg.  For similar reasons, it is highly improbable that very many of the street level node carriers in the harassment network will suffer much comeuppance for their handiwork, unless it can be individually  corroborated that they engaged in life threatening activities  (DEW, physical assault, property damage, etc)  

While we spend all day talking about the street level automatons, we ascribe to their game plan because, after all, the controllers of the apparatus make use of the street level perps for that exact purpose - to distract us and to deflect responsibility for (controller initiated) action across a wide range of individuals, and onto other individuals.

They have effectively diluted the responsibility of each individual street level perpetrator, while retaining the whole of the deleterious effect that they desire to impact us with.  Their intent is to watch us die the death of a thousand cuts while committing the perfect un-prosecutable crime.

But is it really un-prosecutable?

No, because the intent to damage intensely in physical and/or emotional and/or financial terms still exists and is plain and premeditated.  The real culprits against whom prosecutable charges can, should, and I am sure ultimately will be brought are the controllers who make daily use of the street level soldiers/perpetrators as a hammers/tools to destroy those that  they disfavour.

For this reason I am constantly ranting about the databases and communications systems that they use.  I would rather address the source of the issue than put a bandage on the symptom.  We have a leprosy growing here, and the root causes of it are the grubby little fingers committing insideous (and, taken as a whole, not so small) prosecutable crimes.  No longer should we allow the purveyors of this leprosy to hide behind the street muscle that (in their perception) allows them to be lawless with impunity.

Sorry for the run-on rant, (I am sure that Mr. Vic Livingston (Scrivener) would be likely to point this out for me), but a man has to finish his thought.


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batvette

You can run on rant with me. I do it all the time, and as long as it's not superfluously embellished, complaints only serve to reveal reading deficiencies in the complaintant. (I tested @ 600wpm in 4th grade, a talent which served to curse me as "underperforming" as less than straight A's came along. ADD sucks)

My biggest daily obstacle is having at least one if not three adjacent duplexes occupied by perps who have me under a microscope and have a variety of technologies at their disposal.  A whole list of effects, some which can be so severe if they are "angered" you have to leave the house immediately. Usually bearable with a frown. Incredible nightmares and "conniptions" when you attempt to fall asleep.  Matching the described effects of microwaves, like brilliant patterns when you close your eyes, light in the dark. Shaking house, like being on a ship at sea.   Today brings a new toy- a USB seismometer! We'll see what we detect, are the vibrations real or caused by attacking an area of my equilibrium?

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batvette

You have any take on how these people are recruited or do they gather on the internet? I mean, there's got to be some type of ideology based motivating front, you'd think we could find some thinly veiled facade of a website, or something. I think that's why people think the worst of the Freemasons, they have secretive meetings, and who knows what goes on there! (a joke, I know a guy whose dad is a diehard member and he's a casual member but he's never heard of this stuff. Maybe other regions it's different.) The unknown lends to speculation of course.  What do you think of Mark Rich's theories about this going to the top of the "elitists" which make up the NWO? He does a pretty solid analysis (i'll get a link later) but I was going to write him and point out a bit of flawed logic in an otherwise good guess, not to argue but to add food for thought. In esssence if it were as he thinks we'd still be able to track policy commands as police and local officials don't have close relations to Bilderberg/CFR/Trilateral types, and need to get official orders to do things on this level. Whether written or in meetings, there is still a missing link- like your communications network is plausible yet how did the people doing it get to the point where they take the commands? Who says "hey Bob, you hate pedophiles, right? let's ruin one!" and who listens to it without saying "but Dave, I have this thing called a life! and if he's a pedophile why is he not in jail?"

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Anonymously Given


It sounds like your habitat is not a very pleasant place to be or to live.  I suppose that I could supply the same exhortation as I have  applied previously to our fan Scrivener (move to the country, or at least to an area with a topology that is more tactically favorable to you, rather than them).

I know it's not easy.  I have significant physical separation parameters here, relative to neighbors, such that most of what you (and Scrivener) describe is not within the perview of my experiences.  However; even with my favorable geographic situation, I find myself to be the recipient of some unpleasant  experiences, and so my mindset is to follow my own advise and to move to a more peaceful location.  It remains for me to supply only a little more persuasion to my other half.  :-)

Scrivener wants to be close to the action (he's like a tornado chaser), and so he equates "moving" with "surrender".  It's just not so.  By his reasoning, white flagging himself into their brig would be a most excellent idea because he would be very close to the action, and could ferret out their plans.  Of course. 

Not.

I really believe that such an opinion represents nonsense to an extreme degree.  My inclination is to advise you to save yourself for another day, while giving yourself a chance to regroup and to  reestablish your "equilibrium".  Most  importantly, you might get the hell out from under the thumb of their surveillance machine (not entirely, but significantly).  Nothing constructive can otherwise be done.

Bostonians would never have had a successful tea party under the   conditions of constant surveillance that exist for us today.  Had they been subject to such conditions, we would today still be talking about King George.  Literally.


 


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Anonymously Given


You ask some very interesting questions, and when we have the  correct answers for all of them, this horror movie will be over, and we will both go back to our regular lives (assuming we can remember what they were).

Or, on the other hand, we may be sharing some thin gruel at FEMA camp 107.


Since I reside at the bottom of the fish-spear barrel, I'm not the ideal answer man.

However;  I think I know how they can communicate on the Internet without raising red flags and the eyebrows of the uninvited.

My opinion is that they use white-lists.  (The opposite of blacklists, white-lists are more secure).  You and I may visit one of their sites and not realize it, because we are not on the white-list.  If we inadvertently visit one of their sites, and we are not on the white-list, then we are HTTP/302 redirected to some benign looking site (usually some kind of spammish looking search engine site (where they will do a credit check for free).

My advise:  don't give them your credit card number(s).

In addition to the white-lists, I think that they use normal SSL/TLS HTTPS security measures.

Just my opinion, as envisaged from the bottom of the barrel, looking up.

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Anonymously Given


OMG OMG:

I swear I had no knowledge of the events that transpired on Monday night relating to Scrivener, before I posted  the previous message. 

Good God almighty.


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Anonymously Given


I notice that "Batvette" and "Scrivener" like to take the week-ends off.  Like the SNL funny man used to quip:  that is quite interesting, I must say, I must say.


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batvette

I think it's quite interesting somebody noticed!  :-)

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