"The Taliban are still here"

by YankeeJim | February 21, 2010 at 05:49 am
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It is sort of like the end of the US Civil War when the Federal Soldiers moved into a Confederate Town. The citizens belong to the Confederacy, but now, Yankees are in charge. Will the Confederates return to take the town back, or will the Yankees win the war permanently? On whose side are you?

The difference in Afghanistan, of course, is that that the power behind the alternative force is NATO (US Marines) shoring up a weak Afghan Government Army. The challenge is to convince the local people to abandon their mixed loyalty to Taliban on the bet that NATO-backed Afghan Government will hold, 2) to seek and destroy Taliban leadership while marginalizing the lower level Taliban remnants who stick around.

The Taliban remnants are like the neighborhood thugs who linger to threaten the locals from cooperating with the new source of power.

Meanwhile, President Karsai complains about NATO from his pulpit in Kabul which surely can’t make the locals feel any more certain about who is in charge.

A quotation in one story from a local citizen says, “The Taliban are still here,” meaning that he could identify them. He sees them in his presence. Progress will be when he feels secure enough to point them out.


"Surmounting skepticism
Nicholson said the fighting so far has been intense — eight Marines and hundreds of insurgents have been killed — but reasonably straightforward: Buildings must be searched, roads de-mined, bunkers destroyed and snipers targeted. He expressed confidence that the coalition forces will control all of the key roads and bazaar areas by the end of the month.

"We're moving steadily forward," he said.

Efforts to clear militants from other parts of Marja will continue, but Nicholson said the troops will start to concentrate on protecting streets and markets, anticipating that building a bubble of security will give residents enough confidence to identify Taliban members to the Marines. They also hope the changes will lead some low-level fighters to lay down their weapons.

Generating that confidence, however, could take time. On Friday, the Marines sought to convene a meeting of residents at the mosque next to the Loy Chreh bazaar, a crowded, ramshackle place that once teemed with opium merchants who bought poppy paste from local farmers and resold the contraband to drug processors. Now it is abandoned.

The meeting was scheduled for 8 a.m. At 7:45, Lt. Col. Cal Worth pulled on his body armor in preparation for the 50-yard walk to the mosque.

"Inshallah" — God willing — "there will actually be people out there," he said, peering down the street toward the mosque from his battalion's headquarters. But nobody was there.

Fifteen minutes later, he looked again. Again, nobody.

He repeated the routine a few more times before deciding at 9:15 to set off. On his way, he encountered two middle-aged men heading for the Marine base. They wanted to know when they could return to their stalls in the market to salvage a few goods.

He told them the market would be reopened soon and encouraged them to come back to work. The men were noncommittal.

"The Taliban are still here," one of the men said.

"We're expanding security as fast as we can," said Worth, commander of the 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment."



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stejeb

That's a big job they have on there, getting the locals on-board will be the biggest victory they need to attain if all this is going to work.

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YankeeJim

Hope they have a lot of goats to bribe with.

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nanute

Hope they have a lot of goats to bribe with. Naaaah!

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YankeeJim

Just say cheese.

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Spydermonkey

Bribery is a big part of the problem there, because nothing gets done without paying them:(

I think you will see real progress there when the general populus trusts the afgan gov. not before.  (and currently I dont think the average afgan citizen trusts the centeral gov. that much)

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YankeeJim

Not in the USA either.

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NOUSHERWANIS

Pushing Taliban out is not as simple as it appears.

IT'S ALL ABOUT PROVIDING A REPLACEMENT SYSTEM.

The Taliban are like a 'lesser evil' or 'unavoidable misery' to most Afghans as the replacement systems provided so far were either too weak, corrupt or insufficient to shelter the masses. Its a huge and barren land and the strength of ISAF or NATO or the Aghan Army is far to less to fill the gap.

The Taliban thus manage to survive and adapt themselves and continue to tax the masses in a variety of ways for prolonged sustenance. Sporadic presence of allied/ Afghan forces is not sufficient to afford masses the desired level of protection.

Afghanistan is a huge mine/ explosive dump with piles of old soviet ammo and munitions coupled with the looting of Allied supplies is sufficient for a guirella outfit like the Taliban.

IN THE END ........ TALKING TO THE DEVIL AT TIMES IS THE BEST WAY TO DEFEAT HIM........

BUT THERE IS NO QUICK FIX TO THIS QUAGMIRE AND A WAR TORN SOCIETY WITH DECADES OF SAVAGENESS  

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YankeeJim

Brilliant, wise, and knowledgeable assessment: "NO QUICK FIX TO THIS QUAGMIRE AND A WAR TORN SOCIETY WITH DECADES OF SAVAGENESS "

 

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