Thousands March In 'SlutWalk' Rally

That is how I quoted her.

"I was sleeping in my bed when I was raped with the door locked. Rape is about power and violence", Jane Doe stated.

I have every word she said recorded.

Firstly: we are all adults here so I will talk to you like one. Secondly: I agree with mostly everything you said. Yes the Police force should take more/better action towards rape victims. Thirdly (And to the point) to say that the way you dress has nothing to do with how a "Rapist" evaluates you as a target/victim to me doesn't sit right. I'm pretty sure there are more than one "type" of rapist. None any better than the other. Rape is rape how ever u look at it. But to me personally as a male gone through puberty I would never rape a women that was "less appealing" than the "pretty blond" sitting next to her for example. ( Don't get me wrong I would never rape anyone full stop, nor do I judge anyones personality by their looks) My point Being is, that the average (im going to assume "straight") male teenager/adult would be more likely "turned on" by a women dressed in a miniskirt, high-heels, and a "tight" Tea Shirt that shows "cleavage" and ends just above the belly button. Compared to a well presented, more covered, less revealing dressed women. Especially through teenage/puberty years where male hormones are all over the shop. A lot of the time, women dressed as the first lady described, is all that is needed to push these young males over the edge. Is this an excuse? Of course not. But my point is that the way a those of the opposite sex dress can and will play apart in the process of rape. Just my two cents worth....

"rape isn't about sex, it's about power"

why is it we only hear that from women? that's like us trying to explain to you why you are hard to deal with when it's that time of the month. really that's as wrong as it is right but I doubt you understand what goes on inside a virile man when sufficiently aroused. It is as simple as "we just wanna ****".

from your perspective the perception of control and power  may be the case, but I think as many times as not a neanderthal sees something he just has to have and goes for it, his hormones overwhelming his civility. that's not power, that's man the animal allowing his primal urges and mother nature's built in mechanism for species survival overcome what man has tried to tame.

let's not kid ourselves, most of the mammals in the animal kingdom practice mating rituals quite remarkably resemble rape- and without getting unnecessarily lewd, I can't remember a single one of dozens of partners in the 30 or so years since "losin it" who I would ever satisfy by being gentle.

the point is humans are walking a fine line here in the 21st century with a species not fully evolved from the beast yet advancing civilizations toward being forbidden to behave as instinct still tells some individuals.

you are correct that  clothing may play a minimal role because whether we had a world of naked women or all clad in burkhas, there would be rape. maybe the correct thing would be for all the women who dress sexy to come down on all the frumpy wallflowers out there wearing dirty overalls with birkenstocks, or  mumus, have a slumber party and makeover or something- maybe bring back spandex disco jeans and tube tops?  and level the playing field.

That's a good point and I can think of several distinct reasons.

One might be practiced by mostly younger, teenage females who are just catching on that they can gain the attention of males and get them to do things and buy things for them if so attired.

The same age group might find them doing so to compete with other females, that "catty" thing (no offense) going on. This may also be possible as they get older, though may not be as likely in the years between.

Sometimes women who have a mate might do so when he takes her out, like to a fancy restaraunt, so other men look at her and remind him she is still desirable. Probably the most honorable instance, after the next which is....

It's that several day period during the month when women, single or otherwise, just  gotta have sex like an animal. Which, if men had their choice, we would limit all contact with women to this period only- and certainly never the week or so afterward.

Also  you do have women who do this in the workplace or other professional situations  to flirt with the boss, male co-workers, whoever is necessary, to get ahead in their career. This does not necessarily entail actually sleeping with anyone, which some women mistake for being morte honorable than actually putting out. Many of us males would consider this worse however for the inherent false advertising- which leads us to the two final catagories.

Strippers and Hookers. I have met a few strippers who swear that because they "never put out" (my ass, a guy pulls up in a Ferrari Enzo with a suitcase of cash or the equivilent in gold Visa cards, and isn't a toad, he's taking one home that evening) that makes them morally superior to any woman practicing the oldest profession.

And infuriated every one by describing the prostitute at least had the integrity of delivering what she advertised to her client. But then I'm from the chauvenistic pig camp that believes nearly all women are in fact prostitutes at some point in their lives with very few exceptions- society has done this, it starts with teenage dating rituals, the prom, a date must be a fancy meal, etc. We can either pay in whatever is the form of currency, (which can be as cheap as pretending to give you love when in our youth we only want sex) or do without.  

If anyone can add to this with something I forgot (supermodels?) please do. And I realize the amount of wisdom I've expressed is probably overshadowed by the ignorance. I actually had a woman talk to me without running away one time so I can't be doing too badly. LOL.

A troubling contradiction you bring up, similar to what happens to older women in Hollywood.

They aren't wanted because they no longer have bankable looks- yet when they were younnger they were trivialized because that's all they had.

I understand you perfectly. For me personally i have come to the conclusion of "who cares what others think?". If im to be judged simply on how i look, then they arn't worth getting to know. Rugged I know but, its how it is. Back to the subject though. Now rape is going to happen no matter what. But just like everything, there are always things you can do to help "prevent" it. Not dressing like a "slut" while walking alone at night down a dark alley for an example. If there was a simple, safe way you could do to lessen the chances of getting raped, would you do it? Most would say yes ( i hope). So it comes down to 1 of 2 things. Dont dress like a slut and risk the chance someone will judge you for it. who most likely dresses like slut for the same reason you would and/or is just a pervert in general. Or 2 dont dress like a slut, and live with yourself knowing that you will make it in life not by how you look but because you worked hard for it. The choice is yours. Not a very hard one in my opinion.