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Tyler Clementi Suicide: Dharun Ravi, Molly Wei, Bias Charges?
Tyler Clementi's Death Has Been Ruled a Suicide But the Investigation into Two Fellow Rutgers University Students Has Expanded
Dharun Ravi and Molly Wei have already been charged with invading Tyler Clementi's privacy after his sexual encounter with another male student was broadcast on the Internet, but the two could face bias charges as well.
Bruce Kaplan, the Middlesex County Prosecutor, told MyCentralJersey.com, that now the people responsible for the act have been identified, other charges could follow.
‘’Now that two individuals have been charged with invasion of privacy, we will be making every effort to assess whether any bias played a role in the incident, and, if so, we will bring appropriate charges.''
Tyler Clementi's death was ruled a suicide and the medical examiner determined he died from drowning and blunt force trauma to the torso, but many have blamed Ravi and Wei for causing the circumstances leading to Clementi's death.
Ravi even tried to film Clementi again a few days after the first public viewing.
Ravi first posted on his Twitter account "Roommate asked for the room till midnight. I went into molly’s room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay".
Then a few days later Ravi tweeted again "Anyone with iChat, I dare you to video chat me between the hours of 9:30 and 12. Yes it’s happening again."
Ravi was released on bail and Wei was released on her own recognizance after both surrendered to police.
Derek Yan, 16, a junior and co-captain of the school’s Ultimate Frisbee team — a position Ravi held his senior year — said his friend had no problems with gay people.
"He had gay friends," Yan told The Associated Press. Yan said that he had chatted online with Ravi about what college life was like and that Ravi liked Clementi, his roommate.
"He said he was lucky to have a good roommate," Yan said. "He said his roommate was cool."
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Professor Teresa Lowery (not verified)at 15:46 on September 30th, 2010
I hope both of these young creeps get life.....what kind of monsters are they to film someone in their most intimate moments, and then post it online for all to laugh and make fun of? Monsters!!
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Emmanuel68 (not verified)at 12:06 on October 1st, 2010
the worst of it all is that they are not monsters.... but precisely totally ignore what decency stands for. I'm 42 and I think the younger generations do not fathom the impact on everybody's life of the opening of internet onto one's very own privacy.After all, for a straight guy, being shown having sex with a girl can be very comforting of his sexual capacity and his manhood.I think what happened is dramatic.. for one sec I was brought back to my youth at a time when I felt so down spirited because I could not express and talk about what I felt being gay.. sad, sad story...Emmanuel, from Paris
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Ron Charles (not verified)at 04:13 on October 2nd, 2010
Emmanuel,I was very moved by your email comments regarding Tyler Clementi. It is a truly sad situation. We live in a world where privacy has become a precious commodity. This is truly an example of the young people today being smarter due to the technology and information at their fingertips, but not being wiser in the choices that they make that affect themselves or others. How are Parisians there responding to this story?
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Patra (not verified)at 15:47 on October 1st, 2010
Life?Really?!?Would you say that if a student engaging in heterosexual sex was secretly taped and the video posted? Would you tell that person who was distraught?Don't get me wrong, but life for two young people pulling a dumb college prank is just like in 'American Pie'. This crap is prevalent and all over the place. You are not calling for the heads of people that are doing this in all these colleges are you?I mean being embarrassed is one thing for anyone who is not an exhibitionist to have a sex tape broadcast over the internet. However, they were young college students to know that this guy would commit suicide. They were doing the same silly thing that made millions on "American Pie'. How could you want to send them away for life???
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Emmanuel68 (not verified)at 00:12 on October 2nd, 2010
I just think that evil is a very ordinary thing in human life.. and that calling them 'monster' places them apart from society. I share the idea of Hanna Harendt who wrote about evil we find not in monster but in ordinary men, our neighbours... So what I'm saying is that education is all we have to deter people from doing indecent, shameful, inacceptable things like the one they did.
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JackFlash (not verified)at 16:01 on September 30th, 2010
Harold and Kumar go to jail?
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James Brayshaw (not verified)at 16:38 on September 30th, 2010
While the loss of life is pretty tragic, I can't quite make the stretch to "hate crime". All that was done was turn on a web-cam, in the guys own room... Unsure how this is an "invasion of privacy", given that it was Ravi's residence also. But I'm not their lawyer, nor any lawyer, just a regular guy.Monsters?!? Ha! A couple of kids, who pulled a stunt, and a poor kid with some obvious personal problems. Linking A with B is not so obvious in this case, there were definitely other isses that are being missed.
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Another Indian (not verified)at 16:52 on September 30th, 2010
I respectfully disagree. Presuming the victim had 'definite other issues' is asanine. If you ever grow up and have a child of your own, I wish you never have to bury your child because he/she is pushed to the end of their limit by two college 'couple of kids'. Is this what college is for in NJ? No wonder the V-Tech kid killed all those college kids. He was bullied too! Grow the EFFF UP!
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Griffin1956 (not verified)at 19:00 on September 30th, 2010
Get real! Imagine having something like this happen to you. You can't always blame the victim just to make yourself feel better.
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Tom Stong (not verified)at 18:58 on September 30th, 2010
Are you that naive? If a video tape of you was posted on the internet right now and all your peers and family could see it, would you panic and do something stupid or would you just laugh it off. Think before you type a$$hole.
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John Sanders (not verified)at 19:52 on September 30th, 2010
James, it looks like you watch too much Law & Order, maybe, and yet even so, you derive the wrong knowledge or lessons. On what planet would it be true that Ravi's use of a webcam in a SHARED dorm room is NOT an invasion of privacy? Forgetting about whether this was a bias crime, what about the basic legal standard of harrassment, which is what an online streamcast, WITHOUT CONSENT OF THE AFFECTED PARTIES, actually - and obviously! - is?I could go on, but the three other replies I've seen appear to cover what's important.
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James McDuffer (not verified)at 22:18 on September 30th, 2010
Yo Dippy. John S... Legal Beagle.... YOU watch too many Law and Order yourself... Ravi IS going to JAIL for a very long time.. YA THINK !!! Ravi sent public messages.. I dare you to watch his I chat (live feed). He tried retaping.... He's scum .. plain and simple.. there's no excuse and not an accident... .. It's make an example time for internet invasion of privacy.. as with nude photos on text messages... I hope they tack on the HATE CRIME and 10 extra years !!! Well Dippy... You must know law.... go get him off... ROFLMAO.... He's going to jail with a desperate need for a Super Rectal Lube.. when he gets there he wont be such a BULLY, that I've read about. He's going to be a LADYBOY !!!! I hear his prominent family is full of Laywers and Doctors... .. well too bad.... Ravi is going to jail !!! I hope they all go back to Iran or Indian ... where ever hole they came from.
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JeffBozo (not verified)at 06:07 on October 6th, 2010
Well that's just racist - the same hate crimes you speak of. They have probably contributed (as a family) more in taxes and community work than you ever will.
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J. Adam (not verified)at 23:47 on September 30th, 2010
James Bradshaw, your a jackass. If all you have to offer is a worthless and completely uninsightfull opinion then just keep your jackass thoughts to yourself.
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Ben 84 (not verified)at 04:54 on October 1st, 2010
"Can't quite make the stretch", clearly you've suffered a loss of your mental faculties! Regardless of whether it was a shared residence its quite obviously (well, not to someone of your limited abilities) an invasion of privacy and the fact that the little troglodyte attempted to film him again...... This doesn't sound like harassment to you?...Are we connecting the dots yet fella?It certainly is a tragedy, (thank god you managed to stretch yourself to that) yet we're not talking about kids here, we're talking about adults who knew exactly what they were doing. And while one hopes that they had no idea this 'stunt' would lead to such a tragic outcome, the damage is done and I hope they pay for what they did. A talented young man has been robbed of his life and nothing will bring him back, I just hope the Clementi family are able to receive some degree of justice.Monsters? No. Emotionally retarded and poorly raised bigots? Definitely!
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Patra (not verified)at 15:51 on October 1st, 2010
I agree with you James Bradshaw.In no way can you compare 'American Pie' just because the guy was gay into a hate crime.They did not beat the guy up nor did they slash his tires and do scratchiti of a gay epithet into his car door. It was rude & disrespectful - flat-out wrong to do, but Ravi and Wei should not be charged with a hate crime.No way.
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Another Indian (not verified)at 16:40 on September 30th, 2010
They made their choice. Cause and effect. If they are not US citizens, if convicted, with a felony - they will be deported, and their lives on earth a living hell - provided they make it out of prison alive. Bet their respective families are SO proud!
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Tom Stong (not verified)at 18:56 on September 30th, 2010
Molly Wei and Dharun Ravi are disgusting people.
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someonesmother (not verified)at 18:57 on September 30th, 2010
As a mother, I am heartbroken for this young man and the agony his parents and family are going through. Due to the cruel acts of two thoughtless people, he was humiliated, to his thinking, beyond repair. There are so many people he could have reached out to-- friends, family, a professor, administrator or college pastor or counselor--who would have supported him through this terrible invasion of privacy. Unfortunately, he was too traumatized to realize it. It is never so bad that there is no way out. And now, a precious life is extinguished. I pray for his family--that Christ mends their broken hearts that they will remember the joy Tyler brought to their lives. We must all let it be known that this kind of invasion of privacy--and public display for all those who want to laugh at another person's expense will NOT be tolerated.
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College Professor (not verified)at 19:09 on September 30th, 2010
Let's all ban together and call and email Rutger's President to tell him to EXPEL those two losers - they deserve jail and the sooner the better!!!!!!! Please take a few minutes to email and call - we can all make a difference!!!!!!!!
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another mom (not verified)at 19:12 on September 30th, 2010
please, please, call rutger's presidents office and tell them to EXPEL those two creeps - if we all do this, they'll listen!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MAcollegestudent (not verified)at 19:44 on September 30th, 2010
These people are revolting. I am even more disgusted by the fact that I and one of the perpetrators were raised in the same town.
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Aluapay (not verified)at 21:06 on September 30th, 2010
Just because you don't agree with a persons life style dosn't mean you have to exploit them....I'm very sadden by this. It was very wrong.
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AskMe (not verified)at 21:24 on September 30th, 2010
For many of the youth of today, many things are done just fun and transient. Sadly, many only think of themselves with little if any sincere or genuine thought for the other party's feelings. May Tyler's suicide that they contributed to, haunt them into adulthood and may the event continue to replay with increasing intensity whenever they close their eyes to sleep and may they never find rest until they confess their sins publically to the parents and friends of Tyler and ultimately before God. They have been the cause of the loss of an irreplaceable and prevcous human life.
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onesome (not verified)at 21:40 on September 30th, 2010
I agree with James Brayshaw somewhat. Now that the kid has commited suicide all our sympathy is with him, but let's not 'bully' the other kids (Dharun and Molly) until they or their families have to resort to suicide as well. Are we not showing the same attitude that killed Tyler?
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someone123 (not verified)at 11:17 on October 1st, 2010
How can you compare Dharun and Molly with Tyler? .. unless of course, you feel the Tyler is just as guilty as Dharun and Molly. Tyler probably had no one to turn to.. but Dharun and Molly are probably being comforted and shielded by their own families and friends. Sounds like you don't think there's any wrong done at all.. Luckily, you and JB are the minority.. at least as far as I can see...
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Sandra George (not verified)at 14:15 on October 3rd, 2010
Probably, probably, probably...I hear so much probably. We as a society are so quick to damn. They were probably this, he was probably that...screw it, that's good enough for me -- give 'em life in prison. Thank god our judicial system is not democratic.
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MMS (not verified)at 22:25 on September 30th, 2010
Normal 0 MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} This whole thing is very tragic…but I do not think the two students are responsible for his suicide. He took his own life and it was his own choice. It’s very sad but no one pushed him off that bridge. What I have to ask is what kind of family life did he have that he felt he had absolutely no support in his sexuality? Was there no support structure for him? Why was being gay such a horrible secret that he felt he had to keep it hidden from his friends and loved ones to the point of committing suicide? Don’t get me wrong, I am appalled that these students would do such a thing, its horrible…it sounds like a prank gone bad. No doubt will this follow them for the rest of their lives…but to try and classify this as a hate crime is splitting hairs. I can go with invasion of privacy and we’ll see how the prosecution and defense battle that out in court but the real driving force behind everyone’s anger is that he killed himself – this is why it’s national news. The real focus should be, why he felt so isolated and alone for being gay – easily a reflection on our society and our attitudes towards gays in general. Did he absolutely have no faith and trust that his parents would accept him? Did he feel so alone in being gay that his only option after being “outed” was suicide? This is what the issue should be about. Granted, the two kids who posted the video played a horrible and reprehensible prank but it’s just that, a prank. They are not responsible for his suicide…they may have been the catalyst but there was clearly an under current of paranoia and loneliness and it’s a reflection on society, our attitudes, and the kind of relationships he had with his friends and family.A perfect example would be myself, I am gay and have known since I was 15. When I was 16 I sat my mother down and attempted to come out to her, and when I even hinted at being gay - she shut down and told me she'd kill herself. I'm 25 now and haven't even bothered to discuss that aspect of my life with her, she still has no idea.We need to stop pointing fingers at these two kids - as I said, they did not push him off that bridge. We need to start reflecting on our attitudes in general about homosexuality, you can't turn the news on anymore without hearing some heated debate going on about gay marriage and gay rights and the only thing society is accomplishing as a collective is sending the message that young people can not love who they want to love.
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Tad Nathaniel (not verified)at 00:52 on October 1st, 2010
Dear Molly and Dharun: I just wanted to pass on something a friend of mine has to deal with. He did something similar to what you did, and his victim ended up taking his own life, too. Today, my friend is genuinely remorseful and wishes more than anything that he could take back what he had done. He says that, on top of feeling miserable everyday, he is constantly plagued with death threats from anonymous persons. He can't even sit still in a restaurant, incessantly looking over his shoulder, fearing someone is observing him. To think that he actually did jail time and paid his debt to society, still to this day, his suffering is more than you can imagine. Molly and Dhuran, I wish you all the luck you can get. You're gonna need every bit to it in your long lives ahead. May God forgive you both.
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Laura Dina (not verified)at 02:43 on October 1st, 2010
It's absolutely disgusting to me that the perpetrators ever feel that they deserve anything better in life. Let's look at the situation this way.... if your 'friend' (with whom who you choose to associate speaks volumes about you) hadn't been caught, would he feel the same remorse? Let's not delude ourselves. Your friend completely violated the rights of another, and therefore should relinquish his, including the right to safety and security. What gall, to think he is owed more.