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U.S. GOV'T CENSORS INTERNET POLITICAL SPEECH VIA FRAUD, DECEPTION
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by Scrivener | February 14, 2011 at 06:26 am
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• Military contractor Lockheed Martin uses warrantless surveillance programs as a pretext to censor, re-direct and manipulate web content, apparently even to "blog spam" political sites with comments written by cyber unit operatives on the public's tab.
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This veteran journalist has documented how U.S. intelligence, homeland security, and law enforcement agencies and commands impose draconian censorship on the telecommunications of thousands of Americans who have been extrajudicially targeted as "dissidents" or slandered as criminals or undesirables -- using high-tech computer algorithms, real-time interception and malicious tampering to suppress free speech and the expression of political opinion.
As long as these draconian programs remain in place, ideologues who hide behind the wars on terror and crime to pursue a hidden agenda of "social cleansing" appear to have insulated themselves from an Egyptian-style "Facebook revolution" in America.
This covert U.S. government suppression of telecommunications freedoms is not the work of a relatively few rogue officials. It is a multi-billiondollar systematic censorship regime run out of Lockheed Martin Information Systems, the prime cyber-security and information technology contractor to the federal government, and funded by Congressional appropriations to military and law enforcement agencies and commands.
Censorship American-style is both technologically sophisticated and incompetently ham-fisted and, upon close inspection, patently obvious. This veteran journalist was prevented from signing up for any social network website for several years, and as recently as yesterday received a "spoofed" or counterfeit on-screen message while using Facebook stating: "Sorry, you do not have permission to add this comment."
Facebook, quite obviously, does not censor the individual postings of site users in real-time, nor would it have the capacity to do so even if the site owners wanted to act as a proxy for Big Brother military intelligence censorship.
This journalist's Facebook page and his blog site comment section are populated by "friends" and contributors whose comments often convey knowledge of personal, occasionally intimate information that could be gleaned only from electronic surveillance of his telecommunications or his premises.
The censorship regime's thin disguise makes it all the more outrageous that no mainstream media outlet has picked up on the story of military contractor censorship of free speech in America.
Below are links to seven articles which document the federal government's supposedly covert censorship methods and tactics -- revealing the hypocrisy of the Obama administration's criticism of foreign governments that censor the political speech of their citizens.
The U.S. is no better -- just sneakier and more devious, and at substantial public expense. These serial violations of the first amendment rights of American citizens are an affront to civil liberties -- a scandalous waste of taxpayer dollars in pursuit of what amounts to a political purge...
... a deliberate conspiracy by ideologue officials of military intelligence, secretive Homeland Security and law enforcement agencies and commands who have employed high-tech trickery and fraud to pull the wool over the eyes of naive, entrained, or politically compromised elected officials.
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-spoofed-web-pages-and-urls-censor-internet
http://nowpublic.com/world/more-blatant-ideological-net-censorship-u-s-intel-gestapo
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-net-political-speech-targeted-americans
http://nowpublic.com/world/facebook-evidence-sneaky-u-s-govt-net-censorship
http://nowpublic.com/world/phony-facebook-comment-block-lockheed-martin-cyber-censors
http://nowpublic.com/world/wash-post-blog-moderation-used-cover-u-s-govt-censorship
http://nowpublic.com/world/homeland-fusion-center-censors-net-political-comments-yet-again
P.S. The author is not making the above links "active" because he has discovered that malicious code has been inserted into his articles in the past, sometimes re-directing would-be readers to a "black hole" -- to a spoofed "404 Page Not Found" message, or to a spoofed web site under the control of the Lockheed Martin U.S. government censorship regime. A dead giveaway: If the link reads "my.NowPublic.com" instead of "www.NowPublic.com," or a similar variation thereof, the link likely has been re-directed to the censorship regime.
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DJ Wo (not verified)at 03:03 on February 16th, 2011
"This reporter" failed. You are experiencing Facebook issues -- read on.While I don't like or trust the DHS or the Military Industrial Complex, I think what is being reported here is a combination of user error and Facebook "if you aren't breaking things you aren't going fast enough" work ethic. Facebook _does_ have the capability to monitor traffic in real time (obviously not with human eyeballs) and _does_ prevent bots from using their site. They are still hovering at about 1200 developers for a site that regularly gets 500+ million users. Everything they do scales well (including their bot-prevention features).Facebook Pages "Sorry, you do not have permission to add this comment" error:www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=10381469571&topic=8033&post=48634Facebook "You are engaging in behavior ..." error/warning:www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=85092543348It might be censorship, but it's Facebook doing it.Take off your tinfoil hat for a few mins a day and search the interwebs for other possible reasons before you post. After this post, you can't call yourself a "reporter" -- at least they used to do 10 seconds of research before they wrote.
at 05:55 on February 16th, 2011
You are quoting from spoofed, counterfeit "FAQs" written by cyber censor operatives. Nice try, incompetent.
at 16:27 on March 2nd, 2011
Sure Scrivener, EVERYTHING is a "spoofed" page when you are a 60 year old computer illiterate ass hole trying to troll on the internet. You just refuse to believe you ain't got game anymore.
as if you ever did.
at 06:29 on February 16th, 2011
MICROWAVE ATTACK REPORT - Tue., Feb. 15 @ 8:49 a.m.
LOCKHEED MARTIN 'BIOMETRICS' WAR CRIMINALS MOUNT SAVAGE MW ATTACK TARGETING FRONTAL LOBE. Pounding pain, constant ear-ringing. Awoke to same this a.m. THIS IS HOW LOCKHEED neutralizes "gang stalking" targets to allow vigilantes to enter their homes at night to terrorize, vandalize. FBI AWARE - RAID AND ARREST CENTCOMS IN CHERRY HILL NJ/NORRISTOWN, PA (see links)
UPDATE, 2:18 p.m. LOCKHEED MARTIN 'BIOMETRICS' WAR CRIMINALS UP AMPLITUDE AGAIN, FRONTAL LOBE PRECISION-TARGETED MW ATTACK. Vertigo, pain, can't concentrate -- IMPAIRMENT, ENSLAVEMENT, TORTURE. THEY WILL NOT STAND DOWN. THEY MUST BE TAKEN DOWN VIA FBI RAID - CHERRY HILL, NJ & NORRISTOWN, PA CENTCOMS.
MICROWAVE ATTACK UPDATE, 4:10 p.m.
LOCKHEED MARTIN WAR CRIMINALS WILL NOT STOP PRECISION-TARGETED CELL MAST WEAPON ATTACK ON FOREHEAD. Unremitting pain, disorientation, now blurred vision in addition to degraded hearing from high-pitched constant ear-ringing. THESE ARE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND NO LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL STOP THESE HIGH-TECH SLOW-KILLERS HQ'ED IN CHERRY HILL, NJ./NORRISTOWN, PA. HELP.
UPDATE, 11:06 p.m. MORE INDUCED SLEEP. Awoke to ear-splitting ringing tone after half-hour, put under by radio frequency attack. Hearing degraded, extreme weakness, sea legs. LOCKHEED MARTIN WAR CRIMINALS WILL NOT STOP ELECTROMAGNETIC TORTURE AND MALICIOUS CENSORSHIP. THESE ARE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. FBI MUST ACT NOW. ALERT CONGRESS, WH. HOUSE. THIS MUST STOP.
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alica the cat (not verified)at 07:26 on February 16th, 2011
hi, acrivener, you screwed up, motherfucker.. I have to call you names, you deserve nothing else.. IP trace ? our computer works through set up stations, one of them in eastern Europe, you expert. Right now we are sitting ina beach cafe in Veracruz, watching the sea. Its slowly getting colder, I will get some Martini. I am waiting to hear about some more torture done to you. Give me something.... :) bye now.
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alica the cat (not verified)at 07:27 on February 16th, 2011
hi, acrivener, you screwed up, motherfucker.. I have to call you names, you deserve nothing else.. IP trace ? our computer works through set up stations, one of them in eastern Europe, you expert. Right now we are sitting ina beach cafe in Veracruz, watching the sea. Its slowly getting colder, I will get some Martini. I am waiting to hear about some more torture done to you. Give me something.... :) bye now.
at 08:02 on February 16th, 2011
This morning I was able to access SecState Clinton's live address on "civil society" briefly. Then I posted link asking her to read article about U.S. internet censorship by mil contractor Lockheed Martin. Now I can't access "blogs.state.gov" - I get spoofed "404 Page Not Found" message. More censorship. MAKE IT VIRAL:
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-internet-political-speech-fraud-deception
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alica the cat (not verified)at 08:44 on February 16th, 2011
please, technical units in Philly- go wth your van and all mobile vehicles and use electromagnetic devices on scriveners home. all at once. full power. so lets get rolling. I mean now !! he has to quit this nonsense.
at 09:53 on February 16th, 2011
It's wireless, as you well know, you fascist, threatening taxpayer-fleecing cyber-troll:
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-officialnowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-spoofed-web-pages-and-urls-censor-internet
at 14:15 on February 16th, 2011
MICROWAVE ATTACK REPORT - Wed., Feb 16 @ 4:47 p.m. PIERCING, THROBBING MW ATTACK TO HEAD - apparent response to internet postings - WAR CRIMES BY LOCKHEED MARTIN SADISTS WHO WILL NOT STAND DOWN. Torture, disease induction always worse into late p.m., when suits leave. THEY WILL NOT CEASE AND DESIST. THEY MUST BE RAIDED, ARRESTED. Cherry Hill, NJ "Biometrics" centcom and Norristown, PA Mission centcom. See links.
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alica the cat (not verified)at 14:45 on February 16th, 2011
its just between me and you, now.. scrivener, I could go downstairs and there is mexican music- guitars, tambourines, beautiful love songs. but instead, I watch via satellite your neighborhood. all high energy weapons and radio transmitters in different cars are directed at your house. they are starting to operate. so, try to sleep, if you can, tonight, you sick idiot.
at 15:11 on February 16th, 2011
AMERICAN TAXPAYERS:
This is how Homeland Security, FEMA, the Secret Service, NSA and the other military intelligence agencies and commands, CIA, the National Security branch of the FBI, etc., are spending your hard-earned tax BILLIONS -- to pay for lame-ass psychological operations/witch hunts by military contractor incompetents who actually believe that those reading this will buy their poorly crafted disinformation.
No, there are not microwave transmitters in cars, or in the neighbor's house, although certain targeting devices may be in the vicinity. No, taxpayers, the silent torture, impairment, subjugation and slow-kill homicide of a very evil U.S. Homeland-mil-intel-military contractor cabal is enabled by the heinous misuse of a government microwave radio frequency weapon system, secreted on cell tower masts everywhere in America, under the cover of cellular communications.
This electromagnetic silent torture, incarceration and slow-kill GENOCIDE is under the operational command and control a very, very evil and immoral corporation, a multinational that operates in virtually every industrialized nation in the world, the corporate seat of the shadow government that rules America and is seeking global domination.
That evil corporation is Lockheed Martin, the corporate embodiment of the Fourth Reich. The "programs" it administers have destroyed my career and have seriously degraded my health, my vision, my hearing, my ability to exercise my inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
And readers, you can discern that evil in the clumsy taunting and frat boy Nazi syntax of paid cyber-terrorists such as "Alice the Cat," "Frank the corrupt cop," and the other paid minions of the Surveillance and Subjugation State.
These sick miscreants think that the only people who see their shoddy tradecraft are the evil insiders and persons with access to my computer connection. Well, that may be true -- but perhaps some of those with "access" are the good guys working undercover, maybe??
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-official
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide
at 16:25 on February 16th, 2011
'Credibility' Scrivener_it's all any journalist has..
As for only attracting readers like 'TI/WinstonSmith/etc', and individuals like 'alica the cat' etc, means your message is failing to get out.
I personally hear what you suggest, but people who know nothing about this issue can't understand this 'shock jock' journalistic approach or mentality.
People are always going to want proof whether you agree with this or not_needs to be understood.
Facts and credibility in the end are all that will matter. You know this.
Start understanding RNM, it should be obvious to you by now. Also 'electromagnetic silent torture' is being correctly stated, but that doesn't mean 'microwave' system only.
I actually appreciated your effort in this cause, I wish you had been more successful in your effort.
Learn to use a computer properly before ( rightfully ) claiming government cyber spying and interference. Much of what you're actually claiming now is operator error.
at 21:01 on February 16th, 2011
"RNM" -- that's the disinformation cover story for the cell mast- mounted, GPS satellite assisted precision-targeted microwave radio frequency directed energy weapon system. But I do not discount the possibility that satellites could play a more direct role in assaults involving "high value targets."
As for the cyber-censorship, I have documented precisely how it's being done in many articles, which obviously causes you psyops agents much distress. Have you considered finding a line of work which does not involve spreading lies and absolving war criminals of culpability for their crimes against humanity? Don't answer -- you may incriminate yourself.
Then again, you could be a double agent, a secret ally whose current position allows only faint praise. If that is the case, my apologies, and -- well played.
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policeman Frank (not verified)at 16:37 on February 16th, 2011
hey, you old mumbling man, scrivener. I tell you what- enough of this sweet games. some boys are ready to install a special gas system in your car. a very sophisticated, small canister which will be for a clumsy man like you hard to detect. It will start through remote control and the gas will slowly start to spread in your vehicle, during your driving. Its not deadly, it will smell like orange or cinammon, but after a while you will be drugged, so you either will have accident or cops will stop you and they will handcuff you as a junkie. gas will cause, that youll talk nonsense. It can cause some damage to the brain. so keep on picking on us, you lousy bastard.
at 05:07 on February 17th, 2011
This is a serious threat, as you have posted here before. What you describe has been done to me in the past, so I know that you are not just blowing smoke. All the more reason for me to contact the FBI and demand that they hunt you down like the criminal that you are, find out who your co-conspirators are, and give you the justice you so richly deserve. Initiate IP trace...
COME TO THINK OF IT – My wife says she had to pull over tonight while driving home because she COULD NOT BREATHE. So perhaps you are trying to tell me that the canister already has been deployed? Or was she under attack from the cellular microwave weapon system, which can cause throat constriction? It would not surprise me. WE ARE BEING TARGETED FOR MURDER HERE. Please, someone with a conscience, help us -- then put "Policeman Frank" and his cohorts in federal prison for a long, long time.at 04:41 on February 17th, 2011
Just posted to Facebook page of U.S. Dept. of State (that is, if the Lockheed Martin operatives who control the spoofed pages to which my connection are re-directed decide to "catch and release" rather than "catch and censor."
Sec. Clinton: Lockheed Martin, prime cyber-contractor to U.S. Homeland-mil-intel agencies and commands and to gov'ts worldwide, is running a repressive censorship regime that targets American citizens who have been slandered as "dissidents" or undesirables. My recent posts have resulted in serious threats delivered via telecommunications, and I cannot block those issuing the threats -- which tells me the threats emanate from persons with operational command and control over the internet. Please read this ASAP, and forward to Chis Painter:
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-internet-political-speech-fraud-deception
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-official
nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
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policeman Frank (not verified)at 05:02 on February 17th, 2011
scrivener, whats up? you are confused.. you write : "My wife had troble breathing. He had to pull over".... you meant, that your wife is he? I believe , that your wife is a woman, just plain natural woman. and for your crying for help- we will proceed with our actions. Its grat weather in Veracruz. I am going for a short trip. so long.
at 05:11 on February 17th, 2011
More apparent tampering with my internet connection. I have corrected the (apparently maliciously inserted) "typo."
"Frank," you have used the internet to commit federal crimes. It is my intent to see that you are held responsible for your threats and harassment via telecommunications.
at 07:03 on February 17th, 2011
From the comments section of my recent article about the murder of defense consultant John P. Wheeler III
http://nowpublic.com/world/key-wheeler-mystery-murder-u-s-microwave-weapon-system Jesus Christ wakes Up (not verified) at 08:20 on February 12th, 2011 The fact is I have provided 4 FBI Officers as whistleblowers that confirm COINTELPRO plus directed energy weapon assaults on Americans is going on today - 2011 -- and I have more coming... Ted Gunderson, M. Wesley Swearingen, Bob Levin and Mike German. Scrivener (Vic Livingston) at 06:43 on February 17th, 2011 Mike German is young, relatively recently departed from FBI, and now a well-placed insider at the ACLU. As I write this, the microwave weapon system deployed in cell tower masts everywhere is inducing severe head pain, constant ear-ringing, and Lord only knows what disease has been induced by seven years of daily irradiation.Mike German could end it all now. All Mike German has to do is call a press conference and tell what he knows, and what he's learned since leaving the FBI.
My career is destroyed, along with my well-being, so I have nothing to lose. I suppose it is easy for me to suggest that Mike German fall on his sword to save America.
But that is exactly what I am suggesting.
And from recent actions of the Secretary of State of the United States of America, I firmly believe that Mike German has PLENTY of head room to to so.
I urgently call upon Mike German to step forward and bring an end to the silent electromagnetic genocide that his former employer now aids and abets by its refusal to act.
at 10:52 on February 17th, 2011
MICROWAVE ATTACK REPORT - Thu. Feb. 17 @ 1:30 p.m. EAR-RINGING PIERCING HEAD PAIN ATTACK ONGOING ALL DAY BY LOCKHEED MARTIN WAR CRIMINALS GIVEN A LICENSE TO TORTURE AND SLOW-KILL BY FBI, HOMELAND-MIL-INTEL. Awoke to SEVERE ear-ringing, degraded hearing/vision, low-amplitude attack induces pain, vertigo, can't concentrate - NEUTRALIZED. ARREST MIL CONTRACTOR WAR CRIMINALS. See links.
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwavesnowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-official
nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-spoofed-web-pages-and-urls-censor-internet
at 12:49 on February 17th, 2011
Listening to Sec. Homeland Security Napolitano praise community policing programs as front line on the war on "home-grown" terrorism. She can't comprehend that there are not enough "bad actors" to go around -- so billions are being spent by locals on ideologue mil contractor programs designed from ground up to persecute "dissidents" - anyone they seek to neutralize. These duped officials - how to get thru to them?
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-official
nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-spoofed-web-pages-and-urls-censor-internet
at 13:33 on February 17th, 2011
MICROWAVE ATTACK REPORT UPDATE, 4:28 p.m.
LOCKHEED MARTIN WAR CRIMINALS UP AMPLITUDE AS SUITS HEAD FOR HOME. SAVAGE PRECISION-TARGETED PULSED ASSAULT TO HEAD, ENTIRE HEAD TINGLING, EARS RINGING. U.S. GOV'T TORTURES, IMPAIRS, SLOW KILLS EXTRA-LEGALLY TARGETED CITIZENS. THESE WAR CRIMINALS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH GENOCIDE.
nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-official
at 14:03 on February 17th, 2011
MW ATTACK UPDATE, 4:58 p.m. ATTACK CONTINUES FULL-FORCE. LOCKHEED MARTIN 'BIOMETRICS' WAR CRIMINALS DEFIANT. MUST RAID CHERRY HILL, NJ & NORRISTOWN,PA CENTCOMS. PLS. STOP THESE MONSTERS. FBI IS AWARE - AND A.W.O.L.
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recon444 (not verified)at 14:51 on February 17th, 2011
Vic. I'm going to try to send some help your way. You're in Bucks County, PA?? This torture makes me sick and can't believe other Americans
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recon444 (not verified)at 14:52 on February 17th, 2011
my comment was cut in half. I said your in Bucks County?? I'll try to send help.
at 16:22 on February 17th, 2011
Um, no thanks. I'm covered.
at 05:56 on February 18th, 2011
From my Facebook page:
Sick Lockheed Martin bastards put pop-up on computer, headline "View Allentown Singles," with pics of men. And the page won't click off despite repeated tries. Taxpayer-pillaging, libeling war criminals playing sick psycho games implying I'm homo - and I don't live in Allentown; is that city thru which connection is being re-directed or a cover story, so Lockheed can lay stunt on PA National Guard psyops unit up there? SICK - Congress, probe these pervs up the kazoo.
at 07:42 on February 18th, 2011
READERS: Please forward the comment posted below to Los Angeles TV reporter Serene Branson, via Facebook.com/cbs2kcal9 -- on my connection, the latest posting on the TV station's page is from Feb. 8, a sign that Lockheed Martin cyber censors working for U.S. Homeland-mil-intel are again attempting to censor any internet posting that reveals the heinous directed energy weapon system being used to silently assault, impair and harm citizens slandered as "dissidents" or undesirables. (more below)
TO SERENE BRANSON (pls. fwd.): This veteran newspaper and TV reporter listened carefully to your account this morning on the CBS Early Show. Every detail you provided comports with the experiences of those of who have been targeted for silent microwave radio frequency attack via a classified, precision-targeted "directed energy weapon" system that is deployed on cell tower masts everywhere in America, often co-located with equipment used for standard cellular communications. (more below)
This weapon system is publicly patented (U.S. Patent No. 7629918, held by Raytheon, among other patents) but is little-known or understood. Few, if any, medical experts are aware of the existence of this weapon system, or that the symptoms it can induce are identical to symptoms associated with various neurological conditions, including stroke, aneurysm, and, yes, migrane headaches.
Please read my articles, linked below. Thus far, I am the only veteran journalist to have exposed the existence -- and heinous use -- of this domestic weapon system. I write from the perspective of an experienced journalist, and as a victim. Please try to leave a comment on one of my lede articles at http://NowPublic.com/scrivener, and please keep an open mind -- do not be blinded by the psychological operations that have been dispatched by powerful entities in a campaign to deny the existence of this weapon system, and its clear and present danger to American citizens and their human rights.
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-official
http://nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener
NOTE: Attempt to post comment below (about L.A. TV reporter) to CBS2 in Los Angles, elicits obviously faked, spoofed, "Your comment is awaiting moderation" message -- when EVERY OTHER COMMENT POSTS IMMEDIATELY. More Lockheed censorship.
Please re-post comment about Serene Branson to: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com -- help stamp out INFO-FASCISM in America.
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policeman Frank (not verified)at 09:01 on February 18th, 2011
hi scrivener, you still think, I am just an ordinary, rough, corrupt, everyday cop ? Thanks to Alica, former czech spy and my also corrupt friends at one branch of FBI, I am untouchable. Tonight we, are going for a second offensive against you. Tell your wife to sleep in a hotel. Its you, who is the target. We are bored in Veracruz, weather got windy. so we are going to oversee the whole operation with Alica. Get a cold shower and take some valium, pal this day and this night- its going to be rough. You will feel things, taht you remember for the rest of your life. good luck !!