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Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague?
by snuffysmith | November 7, 2009 at 10:34 pm
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Ukrainian News Agency "Fraza" reported that, according to informed sources, "it has been confirmed 100 % Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine".
The Agency asserts that "the head physician of the medical institutions has sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, and to speak only of swine influenza".
According to the "Fraza" agency, "today in Ukraine pneumonic plague is going in parallel with swine flu. The plague has killed over 60 people, and about 14 from the flu.
http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/11/02/11155.shtml
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at 05:58 on November 8th, 2009
relieve my ignorance. How is the Pneumonic Plague transmitted?
at 12:06 on November 8th, 2009
Ministry of Public Health of Ukraine
Official site: www.moz.gov.ua
Як знайти
(+38 45) 253-52-71; 253-61-65
(+38 45) 253-69-75
Ministry address: 7 Hrushevsky st., 01021, Kyiv - 21, Ukraine
interdep@moz.gov.ua
http://www.health.gov.ua/www.nsf/0/9696612...cc?OpenDocument
at 12:58 on November 8th, 2009
Ukraine's Pneumonic Plague: A New Strain of Flu Many Times More Lethal Than H1N1 Very good article
at 13:15 on November 8th, 2009
Joseph Moshe (MOSSAD Microbiologist): 'Swine Flu Vaccine is Bioweapon'
http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/10/whats-really-happening-in-ukraine.html
'Professor Moshe had called into a live radio show by Dr. True Ott, broadcast on
Republic Broadcasting claiming to be a microbiologist who wanted to supply
evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 Swine flu vaccines being
produced by Baxter BioPharma Solutions. He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab
was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the
vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system,
and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu,
causing global sickness and mass death.'
Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/yd8fngo
at 13:17 on November 8th, 2009
Why are there so many deaths and infections in Ukraine?
Is it the plague? A mutated virus? Or is the plague the cover for introducing a mutated virus? More on the Ukrainian puzzle
The first deputy minister of Health in Ukraine said in a statement that they have a
different h1n1 swine flu than the rest of the world and US. In 6 days 500 000 people
have been infected, 93 confirmed deaths. Statements from a lot of departments and
officials seem to disagree but the fact is that if this is the h1n1 it might of either
mutated or this is another swine flu strain.
The reason for this is obviously as stated above and that the strain in the Ukraine
has a much bigger rate of filling the lungs with blood. This can be blamed on lack
of public health but according to sources this is not the case. The plague or virus
in the Ukraine has 10 times the mortality rate than the normal swine flu.
In a paper published in microbiology news called resurrecting influenza pandemic
strains. The author recognized 5 strains of weaponized flu.
Confirmation that this is a mutated version: (or not a mutation of h1n1 but a viral
pneumonia which is something different)
1. 250 000 to 500 000 infected in one day, way faster than any other country
the h1n1 has been
2. Many cases of viral pneumonia where the lungs fill with blood, a much higher
viral pneumonia rate than any other country
3. Ukraine Health minister said himself that "swine flu has mutated"
4. Much bigger death rate than normal
On the ground though, unconfirmed reports say that people are going on as normal,
they also say that this is fear mongering. (speaking to locals)
WHO needs to confirm that the genes have are different, if they are not that means
the swine flu has not mutated.
Everyone is waiting for the gene sequences which will confirm whether this has been
hyped up, a real mutated h1n1 or just bad health services in the Ukraine.
Update 1.
Please note. The h1n1 and the viral pneumonic plague is two different things. What we
are saying is that either the h1n1 has mutated OR there is a viral pneumonic outbreak
at the same scale of the h1n1.
There are now as of time of writing 871,037 Influenza/ARI Cases over the Ukraine,
39,603 has been hospitalized and 135 people have died. We cant say home many
of those people are affected with which, either h1n1 or the pneumonic plague or
something else because it still remains unclear.
Ukraine remains in a state of Emergency.
===
Continued updates at:
The Jane Burgermeister website - investigating the swine flu pandemic
at 13:18 on November 8th, 2009
One of the pharmaceutical companies developing nasal spray vaccines is Baxter International,
who were caught earlier this year
releasing batches of vaccines from a lab in Austria that were contaminated
live bird flu virus, otherwise known as H5N1.
The video below outlines further concerns regarding FluMist and the nasal spray vaccine in general.
YouTube - H5N1 Spray Causes Spread of Pandemic Flu#at=459 (Watch This)
at 22:27 on November 8th, 2009
Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected
http://info-wars.org/2009/10/31/panic-in-ukraine-authorities-deny-aircraft-spraying-aerosols-over-cities-martial-law-expected/
Has Baxter International released a biological weapon?
Evidence appears to suggest that Baxter International is responsible for a new deadly outbreak of viral pneumonia in Ukraine.
Moshe claimed that Baxter's laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can confirm for himself.
http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2009/10/has-baxter-international-released.html
at 22:28 on November 8th, 2009
WHO is calling it H1N1, however, there seems to be mutations present.
Pandemic (H1N1) 2009, Ukraine
http://www.who.int/csr/don/20091101/en/index.html
at 22:28 on November 8th, 2009
Joseph Moshe story in detail:
http://informationfarm.blogspot.com/2009/08/joseph-moshe_20.html
at 22:31 on November 8th, 2009
CDC asking physicians to be on the lookout for possible hemorrhagic pneumonia cases with H1n1
http://www.ncmedsoc.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/HemorrhagicPneumonia.pdf
at 22:38 on November 8th, 2009
Now WHO update is calling it hemorrhagic disease...
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11030902/Ukraine_Hemor.html
From WHO on Nov 3
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_03/en/index.html
at 22:39 on November 8th, 2009
President's address to the Ukrainian people on the occasion of flu epidemic in Ukraine
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/15609.html
at 22:39 on November 8th, 2009
Seems the Ukraine might not of been the first outbreak of this novel flu like illness India has kept it under wraps as well.
'Don't know what caused the deaths'
Doctors at Sassoon Hospital, who are in the thick of the swine flu battle, are a worried lot. Thirty-five patients with swine flu-like symptoms died in the last 45 days at the hospital, and not one of them tested positive for swine flu. The doctors still don't know what caused the death of these patients.
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2009/nov/051109-Sassoon-hospital-Swine-Flu-Casualities-Pune.htm
So there are now three areas of the outbreak. Ukraine, Romania, and India.
at 22:45 on November 8th, 2009
Slovakia closes border with Ukraine for influenza
BRATISLAVA - Slovakia closes on one after all border crossings with Ukraine because of the Mexican influenza epidemic. In Ukraine almost 900,000 people have been contaminated touched, of whom at least 135 have died.
http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2118199/slowakije-sluit-grens-met-oekraine-griep.html
Note: This is a babel Fish translation
at 22:47 on November 8th, 2009
Update: Ebola-Like Virus Pandemic in Ukraine
...The more severe manifestation of ARI, Acute Respiratory Infection in the Ukrainian cases are clearly defined as a hemorrhagic disease that fills lungs with blood and produces bleeding at all orifices, a stark reminder of 1918 pandemic cases which reportedly were also linked to the swine H1N1. The ARI disease exhibits symptoms very similar to the ebola virus of which the family Filoviridae is responsible for severe and often fatal viral hemorrhagic fever outbreaks in primates, gorillas, chimpanzees, humans, and domestic pigs.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977889881
at 22:50 on November 8th, 2009
Ukraine's Pneumonic Plague: A New Strain of Flu Many Times More Lethal Than H1N1
http://preventdisease.com/news/09/110409_ukraine_plague_flu_strain_more_lethal_H1N1.shtml
at 20:57 on November 10th, 2009
A million infected in Ukraine flu epidemic: minister: Ukraine's epidemic of flu and acute respiratory disorders has now affected more than a million people, the country's deputy health minister said on Tuesday. Vasyl Lazoryshynets said the death toll from the epidemic had risen to 174, as President Viktor Yushchenko warned the country must brace itself for a second wave of infections
at 21:04 on November 10th, 2009
Clusters of Hemorrhagic H1N1 Pneumonia in Ukraine
Saturday, 07 November 2009 09:01
Recombinomics Commentary 11:54
November 4, 2009
Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast
All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 - 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.
The above comments are from an early story describing cases in Ukraine. The clustering of hemorrhagic cases raised concerns. The concern was increased by anecdotal reports citing a high frequency of such cases in Lviv (see map). The recent WHO announcement that they were initially focusing of severe acute respiratory illness in Lviv also increased concerns.
Hemorrhagic pneumonia was also observed in the 1918 pandemic and was thought to be linked to cytokine storm. Consequently, those with robust immune systems (previously health young adults) disproportionately died, which has also been seen in the current outbreak (Mexico, US, and worldwide). However, the cases in Ukraine appear to be clustered, raising concerns that the virus has changed.
However, the change may be minor, since the current H1N1 has produced the above symptoms in earlier cases. More severe cases may be linked to a higher viral load, which could be linked to minor genetic changes, or simply due to concentration of virus in schools. In the US the spread of the virus has been linked to school openings, which lead to an explosion of cases and subsequent student deaths. However, now there are increases in fatalities in teachers and administrators, increasing concerns worldwide.
In Ukraine, weather changes and heating issues may have led to a surge in cases, and increased concentrations of virus could have produced conditions favoring high viral loads and increased cytokine storms.
Samples have been sent to Mill Hill, and sequence data should be released shortly. Similarly, investigations on hemorrhagic pneumonia in lviv should help resolve the mechanism for the high concentration of such cases in western Ukraine.
However, H1N1 spread in Kiev has been noted, and other countries such as Belarus have announced additional H1N1 suspect or confirmed fatalities.
Sequence analysis of these cases and an update on the frequency of hemorrhagic pneumonia in Ukraine and worldwide would be useful.
Pretty good blog on this here:
http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com...=64&lang=en
at 08:40 on November 12th, 2009
Suspected Hemorrhagic Pneumonia Outbreak Hits Ukraine
by Stephen Lendman / November 12th, 2009 (0)
On October 29, the Australian web site zik.com.ua reported that:
“Western Ukraine was hit by a severe epidemic of unidentified influenza, tentatively diagnosed by doctors as viral pneumonia. The number of dead has climbed dramatically. Doctors advise Western Ukrainians to stay home and use preventive medicine.”
On October 30, Jane Burgermeister’s theflu.com reported that:
“More than 30 people have died in the Ukraine as a result of a mysterious new virus that has an affinity for the lungs,” according to Swiss reports. Ukraine’s Health Ministry said the virus’ origin is unknown and showed “no signs of mutating to become more virulent.” So far, …
(Full article …)
http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suspected-hemorrhagic-pneumonia-outbreak-hits-ukraine/
at 09:12 on November 12th, 2009
A million infected in Ukraine flu epidemic: minister
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5igljlXmqY49TbADWAZteRNljNEnQ
at 06:16 on November 16th, 2009
(NaturalNews) Here's what we know with some degree of certainty about the H1N1 virus in Ukraine right now: nearly 300 people have died from the viral strain, and over 65,000 people have been hospitalized (the actual numbers are increasing by the hour). The virus appears to be either a highly aggressive mutation of the globally-circulating H1N1 strain, or a combination of three different influenza strains now circulating in Ukraine. Some observers suspect this new "super flu" might be labeled viral hemorrhagic pneumonia (meaning it destroys lung tissue until your lungs bleed so much that you drown in your own fluid), but that has not been confirmed by any official sources we're aware of.
Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko has issued emergency quarantine orders for nine of the country's regions and ordered the deployment of mobile military hospitals. He announced that the nation had been simultaneously hit with two different seasonal flu strains plus H1N1 -- and then hinted that all three might have recombined into the deadly new Ukrainian super flu.
In his own words, as reported by Daily Mail, "Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine: two seasonal flus and the Californian flu. Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation."
On November 6, Ukraine's Deputy Health Minister Zinovy Mytnyk announced that over 600,000 citizens had already caught the new flu. British scientists are now conducting tests on the new viral strain to find out why it appears to be so deadly (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...).
The mainstream media is blaming Ukraine's poor health care system for the relatively high rates of hospitalization and death (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/w...), but they refuse to mention (yet again) the vitamin D deficiency found across this population living at high latitude in the winter, where sunlight is relatively scarce.
Here's a useful blog for staying up to date on the Ukrainian plague:
http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/
What we don't knowNow here's what we don't know about the Ukraine outbreak:
What is the actual genetic composition of this mutated strain?
Scientists have not released any meaningful news about the genetic sequence of the Ukraine strain. For the moment, the WHO is somewhat quiet on the matter. The last WHO update was from November 3 (and the situation has become considerably worse since). (http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_...).
Was this viral strain released as a bioweapon?
There are numerous reports circulating widely across the 'net that cite aerial spraying across Kiev in the days before the new "super flu" outbreak. People are speculating that this was a bioweapon attack intentionally unleashed upon the Ukrainian population. So far, NaturalNews can find no credible information supporting this theory, but it remains a possibility to be researched further.
at 09:35 on November 16th, 2009
New Flu Strain Is Worse Than Swine Flu, And Affecting Millions Across Europe It's a cocktail of three flue strains, and it's originating in the Ukraine. Read »
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at 21:03 on November 16th, 2009
Ukraine’s Flu Mess
Media there is reporting 299 people dead so far and nearly 80,000 hospitalized.
at 12:53 on November 17th, 2009
from wiki:Pneumonic plague is one of three main forms of plague, all of which are caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. It is more virulent and rarer than bubonic plague. The difference between the versions of plague is simply the location of the infection. Pneumonic plague is an infection in the lung(s), bubonic plague is an infection of the buboes or lymph nodes, while septicemic plague is an infection in the blood stream. Typically, pneumonic form is due to a secondary spread from advanced infection of an initial bubonic form. Primary pneumonic plague results from inhalation of fine infective droplets and can be transmitted from human to human without involvement of fleas or animals. Untreated pneumonic plague has a very high fatality rate.
at 06:23 on November 18th, 2009
Ukraine: H1N1 virus is dangerously mutating? - Swin Flu ABC
Only time will tell, trouble is, if true, by then could be too late. www.russiatoday.com British scientists suspect that swine flu virus has mutated in Ukraine. Some doctors say that flu in the country has shown unprecedented symptoms, ...
at 08:52 on November 18th, 2009
Ukraine Black Lung Epidemic Kills 12 In A Single Day Over 1.4 million people are infected and conspiracy theories abound. Read »
at 17:31 on November 19th, 2009
Plague or Plan? Ukraine's mystery disease 'burns out lungs'
at 15:01 on November 20th, 2009
Norwegian scientists raise concerns about mutated form of swine flu
Scientists in Norway have identified a mutated form of the swine flu virus that is raising concern because it was found in two patients who died of the flu and a third who was severely ill with the disease, officials announced Friday.
In a statement, the Norwegian Institute of Public Health said the mutation "could possibly make the virus more prone to infect deeper in the airways and thus cause more severe disease," such as pneumonia.
Full Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/20/AR2009112001820.html